What's up with "cartouches"?


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InkEd
January 3, 2012, 01:07 AM
Why is it that on nearly every box of ammo it says "cartouches" and other stuff written in French?

Are companies selling alot of ammo in France or something? (And if they are selling alot of it, maybe they should print instructions on how to fire it at invading nations. LOL)

Seriously, why French of all languages?

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tyeo098
January 3, 2012, 01:20 AM
Cartouches is French for cartridges.

Kind of like how the printer installation manual is written in several languages, so they can sell it in different countries (Canada speaks French somewhat) without printing a special box/pamphlet/whatever for each country.

Gryffydd
January 3, 2012, 01:55 AM
I'd say it has more to do with Canada than with France.
http://www.lawdit.co.uk/reading_room/room/view_article.asp?name=../articles/Language%20considerations%20for%20branding%20in%20Canada.htm

InkEd
January 3, 2012, 02:00 AM
Makes sense. Didn't even think about Canada.

Shadow 7D
January 3, 2012, 04:17 AM
Yeppers, you can tell a NORTH american targeted product...
it is printed in 3 and ONLY 3 languages, English French and Spanish.
Throw in Portuguese and you got most of this hemisphere covered.

throdgrain
January 3, 2012, 04:21 AM
Not just in the US, over here in England our cartridge boxes have cartouche written on them as well.

Deus Machina
January 3, 2012, 06:30 AM
Well, the French can still shoot at targets, IIRC. I'll refrain on their effectiveness when the targets fire back.

Sometimes it's just easier to print all the packaging the same and ship it out, instead of having it printed different everywhere.

gilgsn
January 3, 2012, 10:24 PM
Well, the French can still shoot at targets, IIRC. I'll refrain on their effectiveness when the targets fire back.

Yes, French bashing can be funny, I've been guilty of it myself, but it's getting old, and only displays a lack of historical knowledge..
Do not confuse the efficiency of the troops with government politics. The French used to own large parts of the world, which they didn't get by asking politely..

They shoot at terrorists too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969

tyeo098
January 3, 2012, 10:59 PM
Well, the French can still shoot at targets, IIRC. I'll refrain on their effectiveness when the targets fire back.

The French lost to an invading Nazi army.

We lost to a bunch of guerrillas in jungle.

Ranger30-06
January 3, 2012, 11:24 PM
Well, the French can still shoot at targets, IIRC. I'll refrain on their effectiveness when the targets fire back.

Sometimes it's just easier to print all the packaging the same and ship it out, instead of having it printed different everywhere.
Just remember, without the French, we wouldn't have had decent gunpowder for a while longer.

A link to a French guy with a name way to complicated for me to spell out (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleuth%C3%A8re_Ir%C3%A9n%C3%A9e_du_Pont)

MO_mule
January 3, 2012, 11:36 PM
I'll take a box of .38 Special cartouches and an order of Freedom Fries, please.

Chris

mljdeckard
January 3, 2012, 11:42 PM
There are 60 million people who speak French in France. There are 120 million people in Africa who speak French. French is not all about France.

hirundo82
January 3, 2012, 11:51 PM
A large part of Switzerland speaks French too, and nobody ever accused them of being faint-hearted soldiers.

Gryffydd
January 4, 2012, 04:18 AM
We lost to a bunch of guerrillas in jungle.
We lost to our own policies and politicians more than we lost to the military might of the opposing force. You could say much the same of France in WWII.

gamestalker
January 4, 2012, 08:54 AM
I have seen this diverse language printed on ammunition for decades, specifically french.

The Lone Haranguer
January 4, 2012, 01:50 PM
A cartouche can also be an identifying mark. In the past, often an inspector for the military would put his initials or unique symbol on a firearm as a seal of approval of sorts. Some guns from this era are worth more if a certain inspector put his cartouche on them (and it can be authenticated).

timhernandez
January 4, 2012, 02:12 PM
France bashing can be fun,when taken with a grain of salt but, when it gets nasty, not so much.

Read some history on the French and their warriors, then go ask Washington what he thought of them circa 1777...

Ask Spain and the rest of Europe what they thought of Napoleon's troops

Then, go ask the Algerians what they thought of the Foreign Legion.

I could go on and on....

Long story short, Government policies, short sighted-ness, and a lack of collective will of the people to fight again gave us an Occupied France, not a lack of fighthing ability or spirit.

mljdeckard
January 4, 2012, 02:18 PM
Having personally worked with the French Foreign Legion, I will personally invite anyone who doubts their ability or resolve to go up against them.

R.W.Dale
January 4, 2012, 02:19 PM
The French lost to an invading Nazi army.

We lost to a bunch of guerrillas in jungle.

Had Mexico and Germany swapped geographic locations in 1938 the German army would have went through us faster than they did France. Sherman did the same thing to the south less than a century before and the south WAS on a wartime footing at the time.

Its easy to hide behind our geography and armchair quarterback. Anyone here know what Columbus new Mexico is famous for?


I want to see more Italian bashing. You know like watch out for those Berettas as they may decide to change sides in the middle of the fight and shoot you in the back
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medalguy
January 4, 2012, 03:29 PM
Government policies, short sighted-ness, and a lack of collective will of the people to fight again gave us an Occupied France, not a lack of fighthing ability or spirit.

Not trying to get political, but you could substitute USA for France and not be too far off the mark. You could substitute a lot of names here as well.

throdgrain
January 4, 2012, 03:38 PM
Read some history on the French and their warriors, then go ask Washington what he thought of them circa 1777...

Ask Spain and the rest of Europe what they thought of Napoleon's troops

Then, go ask the Algerians what they thought of the Foreign Legion.

I could go on and on....

Long story short, Government policies, short sighted-ness, and a lack of collective will of the people to fight again gave us an Occupied France, not a lack of fighthing ability or spirit.


I agree with your sentiments mate but I'd like to point out that the French never beat Wellington once, not in all the battles from Portugal through Spain and into France. And we were simultaneously fighting another minor war in another continent at the same time, that barely got into the newspapers lol :D

ApacheCoTodd
January 4, 2012, 04:45 PM
Musta missed that whole NAFTA thing, eh?:D

maskedman504
January 4, 2012, 05:03 PM
Historically speaking, the French kind of financed the American Revolution.

Dr T
January 4, 2012, 05:24 PM
Not to mention the Texas revolution (against Mexico).

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