I have a chance to buy a new Taurus 24/7 OSS (9mm) for $300. Do any of you have first hand experience with this gun and what are your opinions?
I know Taurus's reputation and have owned and shot several of their handguns in the past. Most were very good despite their rep.
What do you think? It's about $100 under the average LGS in my area.
Worth the money or no?
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January 3, 2012, 11:52 AM
If you like it, I say go for it !!! Then post pics for us !!! God Bless :)
January 3, 2012, 05:36 PM
I got one of these in 40S&W this summer on a closeout. I've run a few hundred shells through it. My impressions so far - pro's:grip is nice size for my medium hand, seems to balance pretty well, with very mild recoil and has been very reliable, although we're still very early in that game. Con's: accuracy is only so so IMO - groups around 4". Maybe the cause of that is the other thing that I'm not wild about and that's the trigger. It's a very long pull on my gun. Taurus talks about single action/double action. Both feel about the same to me, maybe because I shot revolvers for so long I'm expecting a big difference. For the price I don't think you could go wrong if you want to try one, although I have seen about comparable pricing at Bud's for a 45. Good luck.
January 3, 2012, 06:50 PM
The deal fell through but I did get a chance to check it out. It's a family member's gun that he decided to keep. I will give a few impressions of it.
It seems very heavy for a polymer framed gun. I usually shoot an XDM and this 24/7 OSS seems a lot heavier. Of course the barrel and slide are a bit longer than my 4.5" XDM. I like the longer sighting radius. The sights are ok.
The trigger is better than expected but I've never been crazy about the SA/DA triggers. I could live with this one though. The mags drop free easily. The slide has decent serrations and there's no issues locking it open. Controls are easy to operate and the grip feels pretty good but not as good as my XDM or the Gen 4 Glocks. I expect that recoil would be lighter on this gun than my XDM as the slide is longer and heavier. I'll find out next week.
The hammer doesn't show on the 24/7 OSS like it does on a M9 Beretta, Ruger P89, etc. I think that some people (novice shooters) might be confused by the SA/DA operation until they put a few hours in at the range. I know that my family member seemed a bit confused at first and I'm not sure that he ever really got it.
Anyway....the gun is in my safe until I can clean it up and we get to the range next week sometime. I think that it would have been worth $300 and I suspect that I'll workout a trade for it sooner or later.
January 13, 2012, 06:12 PM
Well we got out to the range for a couple of hours today and ran a few hundred rounds through the 24/7 OSS.
These are my initial impressions of the gun. When I first saw it I was suprised by how good it felt, how decent it looked and the trigger. It appeared to be a well made gun and I was kind of disappointed that the owner backed out of the sale. This gun sells new in my area for $400-$430. There's not a lot of them around here as this model was discontinued and replaced with the 24/7 G2. $300 looked like a really good deal for a new 24/7 OSS.
I brought the gun home and cleaned it before the range trip. The owner is not really a handgun guy although he is a pretty good hunter and shoots long guns several times per year. He shoots handguns once (twice at the most) per year and rarely burns up more than 100 rnds per trip.
The Taurus field strips easily and if you are used to M1911's then this is child's play. It's not as easy as a Glock or XDM though it's almost that simple.
The gun had a lot of white grease (?) inside and I assume that this is some kind of rust inhibitor they use in shipping. If it's a lubricant then it has failed that test. I gave it a decent cleaning. I can understand some owners having issues if they took these guns straight from the store to the range.
We put 100 rnds of WWB, 100 rnds of Federal and 50 rnds of 9mm reloads through it. Reliablity was lacking but I suspect that the guns owner was limp wristing the pistol. He had a lot of stovepipes and double feeds in the first 100-150 rnds and had a couple of jams later. I had no issues with reliability when I shot it and we were handing it back and forth after every 20 rnds or so. I noticed that my relative has a really odd grip when shooting this gun and had about an inch of open space between the top of his hand the the curve of the backstrap above. He wouldn't consistently fix his grip and had issues all day. I really think that he was causing most of the problems.
The only issue that I had involved the slide not locking open after the last shot on one of the magazines. It happens and these mags get labeled "Range." Their were no issues with the other mags used that day. They were all factory magazines BTW.
I wasn't impressed with accuracy. We were stuck at the 10yd line as the range was crowded and the stations were full at the other distances. I couldn't get a decent group out of this gun and while I could keep the shots inside a pie plate sized area it looked like buckshot. I shot better with my Kahr CW9 (small, lightweight and DOA trigger) and even with a LCR. I don't claim to be the world's greatest shot but I'm at the range at least once a month (usually more) and generally outshoot most that are there. I can shoot better than I did today with this gun and had much smaller groups with 4 other pistols today. I couldn't get any consistency out of this pistol.
Perhaps this is one of those guns you just have to get to know like you do a Ruger P89 (awful trigger) or S&W Sigma. Jumping around from gun to gun probably didn't help today.
If the reliablity turns out to be OK I would have been happy with this gun for $300. I wouldn't be happy with it for more than that and I really wouldn't be willing to pay $400 for it. As it's been discontinued I guess others share that view. For $400 I would get a Ruger SR9 or used Glock before buying this gun. If it does in fact turn out to be reliable after the break in period then I would consider it an ok home defense weapon but I wouldn't try any local matches with it. I could get decent groups out of Sigmas, P85's and P89's so I think that I could probably learn to do better with this gun but I don't think that it would ever be a great shooter. I'm not really as bummed out about the owner backing out of the deal as I was a week or two ago. I think I'll put that $300 towards something else.
January 14, 2012, 06:22 AM
Your description of groups looking like buckshot is exactly what I experience. Kind of frustrating when compared to other smaller, shorter pistols shooting more accurately. :banghead:
January 14, 2012, 06:41 AM
Good to know it's not just me.
January 14, 2012, 07:50 PM
I am actually very interested in the new G2 models for all the features incorporated. It's $379 at buds (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/62656/Taurus+1247091G215+247+9mm+G2+4.2%22+17R+Blued) for 17 rd 9mm model ... If I was in your shoes, I would consider leaning towards the G2 ... IMO ;)
Then you can tell us all about it! :D
"The 24/7 G2 is the culmination of the wisdom and experience of firearms designers who are passionate about performance. Combining the best features from the Taurus 800 Series, 24/7 Series and 24/7 OSS™, the new 24/7 G2 offers the best of all worlds. Features include “Strike Two” capability for incredible reliability, contoured thumb rests, a new trigger safety and balanced spring pressure for extraordinarily fast shooting. The G2 is available in 9mm, .40 cal. and .45 ACP, with Taurus‘ advanced DA/SA trigger system."