this was addressed awhile back. Someone mentioned that beside the astecics the forearm portion was used as a hand-hold while using the rifle as a walking stick. However they are a beautiful piece of woodwork.
January 3, 2012, 11:05 PM
I'm sorry I don't have a picture of my new CZ. It is a Mannlcher stocked 550 in 308. Do I need one? Not at all I no longer hunt and get to shoot a lot less than I used to. I just love the look of one. It is all in the eye of the beholder. A synthetic stocked,ss rifle will give you more in terms of "beatability" but not have the beauty and soul.
January 4, 2012, 12:18 AM
What is known as a Mannlicher style stock originated with the civilian version of the Mannlicher-Schönauer military rifle of 1903. As was common with other military rifles at the time, the military version had a full stock with the barrel extending past the end of the stock to allow for the mounting of a bayonet. The civiliam version eliminated this extension and the barrel terminated at the end of the stock. This was not the firt time rifles had been stocked this way as many early long guns such as arquebuses and flintlocks had full stocks.
In a long rifle, the full stock provides support and protects the barrel from bending. In military rifles, it also provides a hand hold when using the bayonet. On a shorter rifle, the function is probably more a matter of aesthetics.
January 4, 2012, 12:40 AM
most of the stuff thats passed off as a mannlicher just doesn't flow right to me. most modern mannlicher stocks just slap a long forearm on and call it a mannlicher, i call it ugly
when done correctly as in the style from a mannlicher schoenauer model 1951 and earlier they are beautiful. after that even M-S lost their way.
closed american style grips do not belong on a mannlicher stock, monte carlo's do not belong on a mannlicher stock, barrels over 20" do not belong on a mannlicher stock.
here is a M-S 1905, notice the swept back grip & drop of the stock along with the way the stock has a graceful curve forward of the bottom metal, modern interpretations just slap a long forearm on any stock and call it a mannlicher.
January 4, 2012, 12:58 AM
I'm not a fan of them, but I'm pretty sure it's nothing more than a matter of aesthetic preference.
IMO the Sako 308 in Post #2 would look much better - superb, even - if the wood stopped at (or just barely after) the barrel band.
January 4, 2012, 01:17 AM
Hopefully my next purchase will be a CZ in 22lr. I love mannlicher stocks.
January 4, 2012, 01:23 AM
I love the look, if done properly I don't think its possible to make a firearm look any better than a well made mannlicher. Its so far on the opposite end of that tactical AR look that its just stunningly gorgeous.
However, the double triggers take a classy mannlicher rifle, and turn it into pure beauty. It dont get better than that.
January 4, 2012, 09:55 AM
You mean rifles like a CZ 452 FS or a highly customized M1 carbine:
I like them. As a kid, I loved a TV show called, "Ramar of the Jungle", and the hero used one. My hero, Dr. Roy Chapman Andrews, also used them on his Asiatic expeditions. And some were used by African hunters, another glamour aspect.
The only one I've owned was a M-1908 in 8X56mm M-S. The ammo that I found was imported by Speer,and was DWM or RWS brand. I got one old box of Western ammo with the rifle.
I don't think this ammunition is still imported, and maybe isn't made.
January 4, 2012, 12:42 PM
I've always wanted a full-stocked carbine, and my next Mosin-Nagant project will have one...
January 4, 2012, 02:06 PM
Your highly modified carbine needs a butter-knife charging handle. :D
January 4, 2012, 05:54 PM
Hmmmm, I gotta figure out a way to make that butterknife charging handle with my welding torch, file and some leftover steel bits & pieces. :cool:
January 4, 2012, 09:12 PM
Here ya go, last purchase of 2011, looks to have shipped in 1994, Ruger M-77 RSI, 308 Win:
When I was young I had no use for the Mannlicher stock but they have grown on me over the years. I now think they are a beautiful addition to any rifle! Case in point a 7.7 Arisaka (pictured)......Take care and God bless
January 6, 2012, 11:24 PM
Rem Model 7 custom shop in 223. I had a Sako 308 at one time and liked it as well.
The Mannlicher stock is from a time when wood was cheap so they were using it to protect the barrel. Most of the rifles from pre WWI period had full length stocks (Enfield, Springfield 1903, Mauser) Now fancy walnut stocks are too expensive to be used except on high end guns.
January 7, 2012, 12:20 AM
Wish I could post photos of mine! At his death a close friend willed several pieces to me, and one is a 1912 Oberndorf 8mm Mauser, 98k action, Mannlicher stock with two small schwaubels (spelling?) underneath. It fits right in with my early Reading and Lancaster flintlocks. To me it's as beautiful as a well built Tall Red Headed Woman :D
January 7, 2012, 02:13 AM
Love Mannlicher stocks. I've always wanted to find one for my Sweedish Mauser. I think one would go perfect on it. Nice pics guys!
January 8, 2012, 03:58 PM
This is a little Mannlicher that was built by the Piedmont School Of Gunsmithing. They apparently build a rifle every year or so and put it up for auction to raise money for the class. I was lucky enough to see it for sale in our local paper and gladly picked up gun #2. This came with a certificate listing the people who donated their skills or products to help build the rifle, however I can't remember where I put it. The engraving on the trigger guard and floor plate is very well done but I can't get it to show up for some reason. Here are a few pictures of the rifle and I will try to do better on the floor plate. Take care and God bless...cordell-
Since this has been viewed several times I won't change it, I will just add to it. I don't think there is a Piedmont School Of Gunsmithing. I found the certificate and it states.
"The purpose of the Piedmont Gunsmithing Association is to promote academic excellence and quality workmanship while improving and expanding knowledge of the gunsmithing fields. To affiliate with national organizations of professionals in the firearms industriy; to comunicate with other students and proffesional groups; to increase occupational opportunities for Piedmont Gunsmithing Association members involved in gunsmithing and associated trades".
It goes on to say that this is Custom rifle #2 and that the black walnut was donated by Robert Watts, and "semi-cut" by Joe Balickie. The engraving was done by Jack Jones, and it has a Stan McFarland Butt Plate, custom made nose cap, Pete Grisel grip cap, Douglas premium #1 barrel, adjustable trigger, and Pete Grisel sling swivel bases. I still can't get a good picture of the floor plate but will try again when the sun comes out!! Take care and God bless..
January 9, 2012, 09:40 AM
A little 7mm Martini that is still in progress........
January 9, 2012, 09:56 AM
Another 7mm that has been French Greyed, and engraved. The buttplate sports a hunting scene that I can't get to take a clear picture (I will post a poor one!!!).... This is my favorite 7mm!!!!!!!!! Take care and God bless...
January 9, 2012, 09:58 AM
oop's forgot the BP and grip cap!!
January 10, 2012, 12:08 AM
Just before Christmas I won a 9.3x62 CZ 550FS on GunBroker. The first reload I tried in it shot less than an inch at 100 yards. I quit shopping for a receipe..........
Took a doe at 86 yards, one shot and dropped on the spot. Who said Mannlicher stocked rifles aren't accurate?
January 10, 2012, 03:14 AM
January 10, 2012, 12:08 PM
mmitch - that is one of the guns that I passed on buying when I was home on leave from Germany back in the late 80's and I've regretted it ever since. Someday I will own one...... she's a beauty, enjoy!
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