.270 vs. .308


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Dylon Fisher
January 4, 2012, 04:56 PM
I personally like the .270. Just wondering what everyone else things. In general not a certain ranges.

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morebullets
January 4, 2012, 05:19 PM
I've had both, but I actually stuck with the .308, mostly due to a wider, and more readily available selection of bullets. Both great cartridges though.

brnmuenchow
January 4, 2012, 05:27 PM
I actually like both, they are close in power and accuracy. At present time between the two I now only own a .270 Win. and don't really see a need to own both at the same time again with all of the other choices in calibers out there (I can't afford to own every caliber out there, but I try). The .270 Win. IMO has really proven through the years that it is a performer and many hunters use it for everything from Whitetail deer to Elk.

mdauben
January 4, 2012, 05:59 PM
While they are both excellent rounds for just about any non-dangerous game in NA, I've always been fond of the .270. This is probably as much due to the writing of the late Jack O'Connor as to its actual advantages.

Nico Testosteros
January 4, 2012, 06:10 PM
I like the .270 Winchester. I don't have experience with any other .270 calibers. I need to get more experience shooting it at longer ranges, is all.

jfdavis58
January 4, 2012, 06:17 PM
Got both; they go BANG. 'Nuff said.

waffentomas
January 4, 2012, 06:24 PM
Since I load all my own ammo, I like to have a nice streamlined operation. With two semis in the safe (both .308s) I went with a third .308 bolt as my hunting rifle. I do love the .270 though. Three of the five elk dropped at camp this year went down with the .308 (1 - mine) and .270 (2). Other two were 7mm mag. kills.

WNTFW
January 4, 2012, 07:13 PM
.308 or .223 gives the option to shoot F Class TR. For me that is a selling point.

Locally I have gotten more .270 brass than any .30 cal.

For hunting I would not even care, but I don't hunt so the more suitability for target / match wins. Tie would go to if all may hunting buddies had .XXX caliber I would go for the logitistics of same platform. Plus I would see what ammo was stocked locally, though both should be on the shelf in quantity.

gamestalker
January 4, 2012, 07:51 PM
A 130 gr. BT hand loaded will easily produce 3150 fps M.V. with the .270 win. The .308 doesn't have as flat a trajectory shooting it's best performing bullet. A 150 gr BT .308 bullet with a BC of .42 zeroed in at 300 yds. drops about 32" @ 500 yds. with a MV of 2900 fps. A 130 gr. BT .277" bullet with a BC of .46 zeroed in at 300 yds. drops around 25" @ 500 yds. with a MV of 3150 fps. Both of those estimates are based on a realistic obtainable velocity with reloaded ammunition, not factory. Factory will not likely produce as high muzzle velocity for either cartridge.

There are other bullets that will increase the BC by quite a bit. But BC isn't going to do anything for much needed velocity for a hunting application. I know I'll get hammered by the many .308 fans out there, but the simple fact is what may produce an excellent competition cartridge, doesn't always make a good hunting cartridge. Those who shoot 1000 yd. competition are not likely to pick the .270 win..

USMC8541
January 4, 2012, 07:58 PM
Personally I like the fact that I only need to choose either a 130 or 150 grain bullet. How many people actually shoot 10 different bullet weights anyway?

redbullitt
January 4, 2012, 08:07 PM
Coke or Pepsi for all intents and purposes.

BrocLuno
January 4, 2012, 08:13 PM
Both good all around cartridge. Mostly this is nit-pickin to find faults or differneces. For hunting, nothing wrong with either.

Stack
January 4, 2012, 08:52 PM
Personally I like the fact that I only need to choose either a 130 or 150 grain bullet. How many people actually shoot 10 different bullet weights anyway?
I do. Well maybe not quite 10 but let's see, .223 includes, 40, 55, 68, 70, and 75 grain bullets in several types. I also load 4 different bullet weights and types in 6.8 SPCII as well among others. But that's just me.

joed
January 4, 2012, 09:13 PM
Personally I like the fact that I only need to choose either a 130 or 150 grain bullet. How many people actually shoot 10 different bullet weights anyway?
I'm like this also. I don't have a lot of rifles but enough, and each cartridge is dedicated to a certain bullet. Now, once I know what I'm going out for I just pick one rifle and no fooling around.

I'm a big fan of the .270 even though I don't own one. My first rifle was going to be either a .243 or .270. When I learned I couldn't get it in .270 I went for the closest cartridge they had, the .25-06.

Seems like you don't come across a .270 for sale but lots of other cartridges. That probably says a lot for the popularity.

I do have a .308 and have to admit it's a great one. For a cartridge I didn't like it does an awful lot and is very accurate. If I had only one rifle it would be a .270.

HKGuns
January 4, 2012, 09:19 PM
If I had only one rifle it would be .308. Isn't the .270 round a barrel burner?

HOOfan_1
January 4, 2012, 09:44 PM
If I had only one rifle it would be .308. Isn't the .270 round a barrel burner?

It is slightly overbore, but it isn't designed to be shot enough for that to be a problem.

Personally I think the 7mm-08 is superior to the .308 and the .280 Rem is superior to the .270.

All of them get the job done for East Coast deer hunting though.

nathan
January 4, 2012, 09:47 PM
Before i had my first hunting rifle 12 yrs ago i wanted the .270. A bench shooter at the gun club convinced me to buy his 25 06 which i did. He helped me find the right load and now shoots dimesized grps at 100 yds. Nosler 100 gr BTs. I couldnt be happier .

PowerG
January 4, 2012, 10:29 PM
It is slightly overbore, but it isn't designed to be shot enough for that to be a problem.

Personally I think the 7mm-08 is superior to the .308 and the .280 Rem is superior to the .270.

All of them get the job done for East Coast deer hunting though.
This. Although, at all but extreme hunting ranges, the differences are negligible.

303tom
January 5, 2012, 12:17 AM
I have both & love both...........

41
January 5, 2012, 12:50 AM
I personally prefer the .270, mainly because of the velocity. The .308 is a fine cartridge also, and I would like to own one someday.

War Eagle
January 5, 2012, 12:54 AM
My vote is .308. It is just too versatile and able to shoot accurately with ease.


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dsmith8504
January 5, 2012, 01:24 AM
.308 is fantastic and versatile but often for what I need it for is overkill.

ms6852
January 5, 2012, 02:29 AM
I agree with hoofan, the 7mm-08 with a 140 grain will give you the same trajectory, and knock down energy at 500 yds that a 270 and 308 delivers using 150 grain bullet. The numbers are very negligible but you will notice it in the less felt recoil if you have a younger person that would want to transition into a great caliber without fear of recoil. The 7mm-08 is the way to go.

wyohome
January 5, 2012, 02:38 AM
My Dad had a Model 88 in .308 (mine now) when I was a kid, so I bought a .308 in a Model 760 around 1969, I have since bought a 788 and a Kimber Longmaster Classic in .308. They perform well and I kind of like the caliber. They all eat the same chow with good enough accuracy and accuracy beats power every time it is tried. If I had started on the 270, my feelings would likely be the same.

Rob96
January 5, 2012, 05:26 AM
I originally started out on 270 but have switched over to 308 in the last two years. It is a very verstaile and efficient round.

helotaxi
January 5, 2012, 06:28 AM
A 130 gr. BT hand loaded will easily produce 3150 fps M.V. with the .270 win. The .308 doesn't have as flat a trajectory shooting it's best performing bullet. A 150 gr BT .308 bullet with a BC of .42 zeroed in at 300 yds. drops about 32" @ 500 yds. with a MV of 2900 fps. A 130 gr. BT .277" bullet with a BC of .46 zeroed in at 300 yds. drops around 25" @ 500 yds. with a MV of 3150 fps. Both of those estimates are based on a realistic obtainable velocity with reloaded ammunition, not factory. Factory will not likely produce as high muzzle velocity for either cartridge.Shooting flat is only an advantage when you're looking at using a point blank zero or shooting at an unknown range (no LRF). If you are shooting at longer ranges and dialing your elevation and know the range. Being flat shooting is of no real advantage. Drop is very predictable. Using only the above examples, the .270 is the superior choice because of the higher velocity and BC. Not because of energy but because of wind drift. At longer, known ranges, a competent shooter will not miss high or low because the bullet didn't drop as expected, they will miss left or right because they misread the wind. A higher BC and/or higher velocity reduce the effect of wind as a whole and thus reduce the effects of a misread.

There are other bullets that will increase the BC by quite a bit. But BC isn't going to do anything for much needed velocity for a hunting application. I know I'll get hammered by the many .308 fans out there, but the simple fact is what may produce an excellent competition cartridge, doesn't always make a good hunting cartridge. Those who shoot 1000 yd. competition are not likely to pick the .270 win..The .308 is a marginal competition cartridge at best. Pretty much the only people that shoot .308 in comps are those that have to because of the particular discipline that they're shooting, like F-TR. For those people it isn't a handicap because their competition is shooting the same thing, leveling the playing field. For competitors that have a choice, a different cartridge is the choice. The .270 COULD be a good competition cartridge except for the lack of efficient bullets. 6.5mm is the passing fad, but 7mm is the real deal and more competitors are going that way all the time.

Sav .250
January 5, 2012, 08:04 AM
It would be the 270 cal for me .....just a personal choice.

303tom
January 5, 2012, 11:21 AM
You know really if you are a reloader as I am & you have rifles in 7mm-08, .308, .270, .280, & .30-06 & so forth & so on, it all depends on what you want to take to the woods.......

Shotgun wg
January 5, 2012, 11:48 AM
Would not a .270/ 30-06 be a closer comparison. I have a 25-06, 308, 270, and 30-06. As an all around rifle I prefer the 25-06. It serves my purpose shooting hogs and yotes at guessed yardage. It is also deadly from a deer stand. The rest would be as follows 30-06 270 then 308. In my situation the 308 is a hindering weapon.

Hizzie
January 5, 2012, 01:51 PM
6 or half dozen. Neither you or any North American game will know the difference. The rifle that fits you better and that you shoot better is the better rifle.

Worry less about the tool you are using and more about how you are using the tool.

WVRJ
January 5, 2012, 02:59 PM
Had both,the 270 has the flatter trajectory,the 308 has a bit more inherent accuracy.I wouldn't feel handicapped with either.

biggameballs
January 5, 2012, 03:48 PM
Semi auto rifle I chose 308 becasue of the case design. Bolt Action I'd probably chose 270 since it's a little flatter shooter.

TwoEyedJack
January 5, 2012, 09:10 PM
When I went looking for a deer rifle after moving from the eastern woods to the western canyons and finding that a .30-30 no longer fit my needs, the first rifle I found for a good price at a pawn shop was a Remington Sportsman 78 in .270. I bought it for around $150 and it will put three Sierra soft points, Nosler Ballistic Tips, or Remington Core Lokts in 3/8" at 100 yards all day long. I would have bought .30-06 or .308 or .280 Rem had I found one instead of the .270. I found a real nice wood stock off a Model 700ADL that bolted right up.

One thing I really like about the .270 is that getting good accuracy is very easy. I get great accuracy using H450 (wish I still had some of that), IMR4350, H4350, Varget, Win760, and IMR4320. I wish some of my other rifles/calibers were as easy to load for.

I got one of my sons a left hand Ruger Mark II stainless laminated in .270. It has been a joy to work with as well. Not quite as accurate as the Remington, it will shoot the loads developed for the Remington into less than an inch.

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