surplus 8mm yugo questions


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carrierx
January 5, 2012, 10:28 AM
"Santa" was nice enough to drop off a Yugo m48 and 100rds for Christmas. Love the rifle its in really good shape and has nice light aftermarket trigger.

Only 1 problem. Looks like im 5-10 years too late to the game for the good surplus ammo.

I have searched all over the internet and its difficult to find in stock. I managed to get my hands on 500rds of yugo surplus. Mix of 50's on up it seems (need to look at a few more)

Now, Ive read pages and pages on the stuff. Some say it problematic, others have fired 1000's with little problem. Quite a few threads on case failures and that has me worried.

I always wear eyes

If I do happen to split a case, whats realistically going to happen to me and the rifle ?

In the event of a ftf, how do i cycle the bolt to try and restrike ? Wait 30 secs and then what ?


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nathan
January 5, 2012, 10:54 AM
In case of hangfire, do not panic. Do not open bolt right away. LEave and point the gun in downrange. Wait for 45 sec for good measure. Then open bolt and recock , squeeze trigger second time. If not, do the third time. If it fires, good. If not, separate from the rest. Check for primer strike.

carrierx
January 5, 2012, 11:07 AM
Thanks for the reply.

I had 6-8 FtF's with my 22 pistol last time around. Old crappy 22 ammo.

*click* *sigh* wait 30 seconds.... cycle the round out.

Got really annoying after a while. I'm glad that box is used up. Pistol got really good cleaning after that.

morcey2
January 5, 2012, 12:31 PM
I've only had one hangfire, but I've had several FTFs where the second strike (well delayed as mentioned by nathan) fired the round. It only happened in my VZ-24, not any of my other mausers. I picked up a stronger firing pin spring and the problem went away. Since then, I've been through several hundred rounds of yugo surplus and have yet to have a problem.

The hangfire was a great teaching experience for my kids. They heard the click, but no bang and they thought I forgot to load it. About 3 seconds later, the round fired. I was still holding on the target and they wanted an explanation of what had just happened.

Matt

wnycollector
January 5, 2012, 03:50 PM
In case you churn through your 500 rounds in short order. SOG has 1950's yugo in stock foor a decent price ($0.20/round). Here is the link http://www.southernohiogun.com/ammo-mags-more/ammunition/8mm-yugo-15rd-box-on-5rd-stripper-clip.html

NCsmitty
January 5, 2012, 04:01 PM
For you people searching for different bargains or brands on ammo availability, www.ammoseek.com is able to track what you may want, reasonably well.

Here's a search for 8x57js, (8mm Mauser) by price per round. You'll notice that 8mm sniper ammo (M75)? is available, but is more than twice as expensive as the regular Yugo stuff, and has a heavy bullet.

http://ammoseek.com/?gun=rifle&cal=301&grains=0&mfg=&keywords=&sortby=cpr



NCsmitty

Beak50
January 5, 2012, 04:26 PM
I started Re-loading for my 8x57 yugo mauser, something to think about anyway since all the cheap stuff is corrosive.Plus it is a very interesting hobby learning so much.

Dean1818
January 5, 2012, 07:40 PM
I have a yugo 24/47 mauser

I bedded the action, added a rail and Redfield scope and can do 1.5 inch groups with handloaded
( my buddy is a reloading wiz)

Awesome hunting rifle

Almost of the 8mm usa made is way underpowered.

And..... Much of the available yugo surplus ammo is inconsistent in firing

S&B and Privi seemed to do ok

The stock is a bit dinged and the handguard is mismatched but looks like great grain under the very dark stain, so i am going to strip and restain

woad_yurt
January 6, 2012, 08:49 AM
I have a bunch of surplus 8MM that's brass-cased and, every now and then, one of the case necks will split. I have two Mausers, a Czech-made K98k and a VZ 24, also Czech. All that happens is some of the gases escape through the action. The bullet always makes its way downrange as there's power to spare and the Mauser action is plenty strong. If you wear goggles, you'll be ok.

morcey2
January 6, 2012, 08:55 AM
"Santa" was nice enough to drop off a Yugo m48 and 100rds for Christmas. Love the rifle its in really good shape and has nice light aftermarket trigger.


BTW, Will you give Santa my name for next year? :)

Smokey Joe
January 6, 2012, 12:42 PM
Carrier X--The Yugo M-48 Mauser is just too good a rifle, IMHO, to just feed it surplus ammo. You limit what the rifle can do in terms of accuracy, not to mention that if you want to take it hunting (an XLNT idea, BTW) you have to buy expensive store-bought softpoint ammo.

Sooo, this is a great time for you to consider the pros and cons of getting into the ammunition reloading business. If you do, you can make up target ammo that'll outdo the milsurp stuff easily, plus relatively inexpensive hunting ammo with bullets you usually can't buy on store-bought.

FWIW, I prefer the 200 grain Nosler Accubonds for hunting, and the 200 grain Sierra Match Kings for competition. But you will find what your own rifle "likes" best, and use that, and then begin turning up your nose at the "surplus commie crap ammo."

Anyhow, nice Xmas present, hope you enjoy it for many years, and please give us a range report, with pix. We all like pix!!

carrierx
January 6, 2012, 01:53 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

Yeah, that was the first words out of "santa"'s mouth. You will need to start reloading if you shoot regularly.. I see why now.

Ive shot some commercial and some of his reloads already (i just couldn't help myself). I'm curious to see how the surplus performs. It will get cleaned as soon as I get home.

Pix ? The targets aren't too pretty 8 )

at 100yd im getting close to 1 quadrant of a 12" target so 6" box or so. Im just starting out again shooting so its at a very novice level. That and the crappy makshift rest im shooting off is too low and needs to be more stable.

So the surplus sounded like decent practice at .26 a pull

Now if only i can .22lr my way out of the flinches ...

Dean1818
January 7, 2012, 07:56 AM
Did you have to install the "tall" sights?

The lowest setting on my yugo was around 300 meters

Before i scoped it, i added the tall sights... Then filed down to get poa at 100 yards


It was sort of funny at the range, as people next to me were setting up thier high end scopes, on their new rifles.

I had a FILE !

Fred Flintstone meets George Jetson



But.... Now with a scope..... Its pretty accurate

Robert
January 7, 2012, 08:13 AM
I picked up some 1950's Yugo surplus from www.ammoman.com back around 2004 or 2005 at $90 for 900 rounds delivered. That same ammo from the say place is something like $300 now. The only issues I have had with it is about 2 or 3 in a 100 will back out a primer. That and it is corrosive so make sure to clean real good when you get home.

HEAVY METAL 1
January 7, 2012, 10:03 AM
"In case of hangfire, do not panic. Do not open bolt right away. LEave and point the gun in downrange. Wait for 45 sec for good measure. Then open bolt and recock , squeeze trigger second time."

With a 98 action there is no need to open the bolt all the way to recock, just lift the bolt handel up and close it back down; that will recock it.

Standard cleaning methods may not dissolve the corrosive salts residue from the surplus ammo. Run 2 wet patches, wet with WATER, down the bore, then clean as per usual. I have an old nasal spray bottle I fill with water & keep in my range kit. I remove the bolt and hose down the bore, wait about 30 seconds then clean as usual. Have not had any corrosion. Be sure to use a water wetted patch on your bolt face too, then clean it off with a dry, then oiled patch.

Hud
January 7, 2012, 12:24 PM
With a 98 action there is no need to open the bolt all the way to recock, just lift the bolt handel up and close it back down; that will recock it.


Very true, but rotating the bolt handle to re-cock also disengages the locking lugs & if the round were to go off in that condition, it could make for a very bad day.

Anyone notice the small notch on the right side of the cocking piece?
Stick the rim of a cartridge in the notch & pull it back to re-cock.
(That's why it's there)

Hud

carrierx
January 7, 2012, 08:06 PM
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad52/carrierx/mausernotch.jpg


nice to know. Thanks for the information

Hud
January 7, 2012, 08:24 PM
Yes.

bigdogpete
January 7, 2012, 08:28 PM
"

I have searched all over the internet and its difficult to find in stock. I managed to get my hands on 500rds of yugo surplus. Mix of 50's on up it seems (need to look at a few more)

Now, Ive read pages and pages on the stuff. Some say it problematic, others have fired 1000's with little problem. Quite a few threads on case failures and that has me worried.

Thanks a bunch. I enjoy lurking around here. :)
I usually look here and compare.

http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=7.62x54R

I just bought a case from SGAmmo. Very good to deal with.

bigdog

WeldonHunter
January 8, 2012, 01:06 AM
Sam's out of the Yugo 8mm Mauser cases. He still has some in ammo cans though. I bought 2700rds of it from him when he had it in the wood crates. There's still some around but it seems to be drying up.
Here's a link to the 8mm Mauser http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=8mm+Mauser

http://gun-deals.com/dailyPrices/8mm%20Mauser.png

Willfully Armed
January 8, 2012, 01:49 AM
Back when I got my m48, 1440 rds of Yugo ammo on strippers was $79.

And of the 700 ish rds of various production dates I've put through it, I've never experienced a case failure or fail to fire.

I think your chamber may be out of spec.

madcratebuilder
January 8, 2012, 06:10 AM
Damn! 8mm surplus drying up????? never thought that would happen. I bought about 5k rounds a few years back for .10 a round. I still have four or five unopened battle packs, I've been selling it to friends for what I paid. I better hang on to the rest.

If you are having any FTF or hand fires with surplus make sure the bolt internals are clean and lubed. Every bolt I have cleaned had a lot of stiff cosmoline that would slow the the firing pin. You can also install a Wolf 22lb FP spring. That should fire the hardest primers without piercing them.

wnycollector
January 8, 2012, 08:29 AM
I bit the bullet and picked up 900 rounds of yugo 8mm recently. I still have 3 spam cans of Romanian 150gr ammo that I picked up for $35/can ~six years ago...but my old supply of Yugo was almost gone. With surplus ammo you need to buy when it's available and stack deep!

06
January 8, 2012, 08:50 AM
Stumbled onto a wee bit of Boxer Brass last year. Have it under lock and key--lol. Had to buy a rifle because a bud gave me some ammo--That is my story and sticking to it.

bigdogpete
January 8, 2012, 03:57 PM
I don't see where SOG has bulk 8mm on their website, just 15 round boxes. They are around 30 cents per round after shipping. At least they still have some.

I can only get on the dealer sight. Can a person order ammo if you don't have an FFL from SOG?

bigdog

wnycollector
January 8, 2012, 05:39 PM
I don't see where SOG has bulk 8mm on their website, just 15 round boxes. They are around 30 cents per round after shipping. At least they still have some.

I can only get on the dealer sight. Can a person order ammo if you don't have an FFL from SOG?

bigdog

I ordered 900 rounds last week from SOG for $179.40+$26 shipping to NY. The ammo came in a sealed zinc tin. Yep non-FFL's can order everything but firearms from SOG.

WeldonHunter
January 9, 2012, 01:06 AM
I don't see where SOG has bulk 8mm on their website, just 15 round boxes. They are around 30 cents per round after shipping. At least they still have some.

I can only get on the dealer sight. Can a person order ammo if you don't have an FFL from SOG?

bigdog
Yes you can buy ammo from them. Got to have a 03 FFL to buy rifles. The site you're looking at is the same as everyone. If you have a dealer account you login to that from what I've heard to see that pricing and buy guns. Here's a link to the 8mm deal http://www.southernohiogun.com/ammo-mags-more/ammunition/8mm-yugo-15rd-box-on-5rd-stripper-clip.html
Just put 60 boxes in your cart and that's the bulk price, $2.99/box. That's a full case but I don't know if they ship it in crates. Some places won't due to the weight of it.

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