Century Arms Mosin Nagant


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January 6, 2012, 02:19 AM
I was wondering if anyone has any of their rifles? I am going to buy a 91/30 and I was wondering what the general quality of the rifles are and what to expect in the terms of the customers service should I get a bad one.

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Telekinesis
January 6, 2012, 02:41 AM
The Mosins are imported by century, not made by them. All of the Mosin 91/30s were made by the former Soviet Union (with a few exceptions for the Finns etc.) so their quality will be about the same. The vast majority of Mosins are imported by Century and just sold to other dealers, so most of the ones you find for sale will be century imports. As far as customer service, expect nothing. The store/website you bought it from might help you if there's a real problem, but other than that I wouldn't expect anything.

As for the rifles, they are great values. A little on the long side, but not too bad. With a little work, you can get them to shoot nicely, I got mine to shoot about 1 MOA or so with good ammo. The pre-WWII rifles are usually better quality (easy to spend time on a rifle when you're not in the middle of a war), and Tula manufacture rifles are better than Izzys.

When you get the rifle, take it completely apart and get off every last bit of cosmo you can find. That includes taking down the bolt and the trigger group (don't worry, its only a handful of pieces). Then clean out the chamber and barrel as best you can. A lot of the "sticky bolt" problems people have is when the rifle gets heated up and cosmo in the chamber starts grabbing the cases.

They're definitely a good buy and are worth having in a collection, especially considering they're only around $100.

wmcc75
January 6, 2012, 02:41 AM
I bought a Mosin Nagant about two months ago. Odds are you will get a good one the Russians made alot of these and put alot in boxes for a long time so it is possible you may get a bad apple not likely though. After I cleaned the cosmoline off it is a wonderful rifle fun to shoot and accurate. For a 69 year old rifle its like brand new. Sorry but I cant speak to the customer service aspect of your question.

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January 6, 2012, 02:47 AM
Thanks I actually live not 20 min from their Factory/Warehouse but have never bought one of their products. Thanks for the tips on removing the cosmoline I fixed a friends sticky bolt issue, he had not disassembled the bolt to remove the cosmoline I also washed his chamber out with mineral spirits now the thing is buttery smooth. (he ordered his from Cabellas)

Dmitri Popov
January 6, 2012, 02:50 AM
Love my Mosin. Sweet shooting gun, good for everything from hunting to plinking.
And you can't beat the price of ammo considering its in the 30-06 bracket.

Dr.Mall Ninja
January 6, 2012, 02:52 AM
Thanks I actually live not 20 min from their Factory/Warehouse
Like a poster already said, Century does not make guns, what they do is import them.

ntex2000
January 6, 2012, 03:08 AM
Don't know about Century Arms, but regardless of the U.S. importer you need to key in on the date of manufacture regardless of whether it was made by Tula or Izhevsk. A general rule of thumb I've experienced is to try to get a pre-1942 91/30. There is a definite difference is quality between those rushed into production during war time and the pre-war models. Also, the sniper models, (those with the curved bolt instead of the straight bolt), are supposed to be a little better than the standard infantry model. Out of the all that I've owned and three that I've kept, the highest quality and best shooter is my 1937 Izhevsk made 91/30. Using it in my first vintage military rifle match I shot a 96 out of 100 in slow prone with 4-X's and I've bettered that in practice. Regardless of whether they're Tula or Izhevsk made you'll find that the front sight post is too low and your rifle will shoot about 18" high at a 100 yards. Someone told me they heard the short front post size puts them sighted in at about 300 meters even though you've set the rear sight at 100 meters. However, off of ebay you can buy a front sight removal/install tool and a milled replacement front sight post that is milled taller than the original. A little handy work with a file and you can shorten the taller replacement post to drive tacks at 100 yards. Also, the 91/30 is a hard kicker so if you plan on taking it to the range and putting a lot of rounds down range, you might want to get a Past recoil shield for your shoulder to make shooting your Mosin more enjoyable. Better yet, it's even better to reload if you can come up with a reduced recoil load that has sufficient velocity to retain accuracy, but you'll have to slug your barrel to make sure whether it shoots a .308 or .312 dia. bullet. BTW, trigger pull on the Mosins are going to run in the 6 to 6.5 lbs. range. I know this is more than you asked for, but I hope it's helpful anyway.

tyeo098
January 6, 2012, 10:52 AM
The 'smiths over at Century that make their "quality" AK's go nowhere near the Nagants :D

leadchucker
January 6, 2012, 11:39 AM
The Mosin Nagant rifles from the importers are all "refurbs" imported from one or more of the former Soviet republics.

Being the paranoid suspicious commies that they were, the USSR never threw away any weapons, obsolete or not. After WWII, they gathered up all the Mosins and warehoused them. Over the years, up into the late sixties, they refurbished them, dipped them in cosmoline, packed them in crates, and stored them in strategic stockpiles throughout the USSR. That's where all the hundred dollar Mosins are coming from.

These rifles were assembled from piles of refurbished parts, stripped from all the original rifles. The original serial numbers on numbered parts were "force matched", ground or sanded off, or marked through, and new matching numbers were stamped or electro-penciled on.

They are in "issuable" condition. Aside from needing to be thoroughly cleaned, they should be ready to shoot. Don't expect any shiny bores though. For an extra measure of safety, you might want to have a gunsmith look it over and check the headspace.

fpgt72
January 6, 2012, 02:02 PM
If you get started with MN's you need to get the shot first....if you don't they will out number the people in your house pretty quick :)

They are great fun, come in countless different flavors....even made in america....I am currently looking for a nice westinghouse.

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January 6, 2012, 03:07 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I ended up walking into a gunshop and saw a 1937 izhevsk 91/30 with a laminated stock. The firearm was imported by American Tactical Imports and bears their electro penciling on the barrel and also I think the bolt was force matched by electro pencil (it looks like a 3 year old did it). I ended up buying it on the spot for 119.00 without tax it ended up coming to 128 total. I'll post some pictures later tonight when I'm out of work.

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