92A1 Quality???????


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bkundingerii
January 11, 2012, 06:44 PM
Has anyone had any quality issues with their 92A1? I bought one and here are the following problems that I've had since only putting 600 rounds through it:

1. Front sight is loose
2. Right side safety lever pin fell out at the range
3. Tool marks left in the frame durning manufacturing are leaving marks on the slide, thus rubbing off the finish on the area that hold the captive recoil spring assembly.

Am I the only one or is anybody else experience any of these problems?

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APIT50
January 11, 2012, 09:51 PM
This a Beretta and not a Taurus right? Unusual to have that kind of issues but everyone make a lemon now and then. Remove burrs/file/emery
What do you mean by safety lever pin? The selector lever itself?

Onmilo
January 11, 2012, 10:30 PM
I was excited and wanted to buy one of these to compliment my M9.
Went and handled one and was not impressed with the overall fit and finish of the gun so I passed.

nathan
January 12, 2012, 12:35 AM
Almost everyone now wants to have a 1911 platform. Maybe soon the Hi power will also get a comeback attention.

Nakanokalronin
January 12, 2012, 06:02 AM
My 92A1 has been nothing but reliable and well built since I bought it. I changed the sights myself with some Trijicons but the stock one's where never loose.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg823/scaled.php?server=823&filename=92a12.jpg&res=medium

It's as well made as my Elite, 92FS or 92 Compact.

bkundingerii
January 12, 2012, 08:09 AM
APIT50 - It's a Beretta, although, I would have expected this shotty craftsmanship from a Taurus. I could very easily smooth out the inside of the frame and have it reanodized, but it's brand new, should I have to do this?

A pic is attached of the tooling marks, marks left on the slide, and missing pin.
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The missing pin isn't a big deal, I already ordered a couple from Brownells.

Don't get me wrong, I love this gun!!!!! It's just a little disappointing. I think that I might have gotten a lemon.

Nakanokalronin - I was looking at the Trijicon sights offered. How did you go about getting the front sight out? I hate using a punch to take these out and put them in, it leaves marks.....

Nathan - You can't beat a 1911...... I have a couple and the design is flawless........

Hacker15E
January 12, 2012, 08:16 AM
I'd think that you could clean up the tool marks inside the dust cover pretty easily....sucks that it marred the finish where it's visible, though.

bkundingerii
January 12, 2012, 08:50 AM
I'm sending it back to Beretta to fix the loose front sight, they are going to look at the other issues as well. We'll see what they say.

Nakanokalronin
January 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
I used this sight tool here: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=17840/Product/P500-UNIVERSAL-SIGHT-TOOL

If you get the sight tool, defiantly get the clamp as well. You always want that slide as stable as possible when removing or installing sights which also includes taking your time.

APIT50
January 12, 2012, 03:53 PM
I would call Beretta and see what they will do for you.
I maintained 100+ M9's as a unit Armorer and never had a roll pin come loose, can't really say about the tool marks as ours (used by soldiers) were pretty beat up finish wise. If it is having those problems, look the rest of the gun over carefully before calling. Especially the locking lugs as you really do not want to buy a new one. $$$$ I definitely would say yours slipped by QC from the experience that I have had, and to my knowlege there is no mechanical difference between an M9 and the 92A1.

bkundingerii
April 6, 2012, 05:46 AM
Finally got this all wrapped up with beretta. Sent it back, after about 6 weeks they decided that there were too many problems and gave me a brand new 92A1. This one has been working great. I love it. Accurate and the design is awesome. Beretta stepped up on this one.

itchy1
April 6, 2012, 07:17 AM
Great to hear that this was resolved the way it should have been. Every manufacturer is capable of kicking out a lemon, it's how they go about fixing the problem that makes all the difference.

bannockburn
April 6, 2012, 07:50 AM
Wow that is good hear because there were definitely some issues there just by looking at the numerous tool marks on the gun. Nice to see they took care of you in such a positive way.

Shipwreck
April 6, 2012, 09:15 AM
Very nice.

I have two and they work great

OregonJohnny
April 6, 2012, 12:32 PM
This is great to hear, especially in a day and age when most large gun companies (and Beretta is no doubt one of the largest in the world), would normally do the bare minimum to fix the problem. It sounds like they went above and beyond in making sure you got a proper specimen.

dcarch
April 6, 2012, 10:21 PM
Excellent to hear of good a CS experience.

bkundingerii
April 10, 2012, 08:57 PM
Well, spoke too soon. Just got back from the range and the 92A1 that was sent from Beretta to replace the original one I bought has the front sight loose again. ***. How does a front dovetail sight come loose and wiggle back and forth an 1/8". Is this why the 92 has always had a fixed non-removable sight? Beretta doesn't know how to do a front removable sight?

Seven High
April 10, 2012, 10:42 PM
A couple drops of Loctite should cure that problem. Use the removable type.

tarosean
April 11, 2012, 12:03 AM
that sucks... I bought one when they first came out, never had any issues.. However, thats telling if you have had two separate guns with the same issue..

Shipwreck
April 11, 2012, 07:21 AM
Mine are nice :)

Sorry you are having these issues

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/mistershipwreck/92A1-twins2.jpg

arthury
April 11, 2012, 11:06 AM
How did Beretta handle the serial # switch with a new replacement?
Since you registered the serial #, did they switch the serial # out to the new replacement?

Just curious.

bkundingerii
April 11, 2012, 04:26 PM
Seven High, awesome idea! I tried it this afternoon and it's back to solid as a rock. I used the the "blue" loctite, 742, if anyone his this same problem. It's not perminant. Does anyone know how difficult it is to remove the front sight? I'm thinking about just pulling out the factory sights and putting in some Trijicons.

bkundingerii
April 11, 2012, 04:29 PM
They didn't do anything. They sent me a letter stating the swap. I had to take it down to the local police station and have it registered with them as well as the state police. Individual state laws are different though.

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