Berry's for 9mm reloads.


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bryank30
January 12, 2012, 06:15 PM
Its seems that for the price, Berrys are a economical copper jacketed bullet. Cabelas has them on sale for 24/250 for hollowpoints. Is this about the cheapest copper jackets you will find? This is for 9mm luger.

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1KPerDay
January 12, 2012, 06:18 PM
Berry's stuff is plated, not jacketed. Good stuff, though. I wouldn't count on their plated hollowpoints to perform like true bonded JHP however. Check powder valley and tjconeveras for great deals on berry's pills, in addition to berry's site.

oneounceload
January 12, 2012, 06:35 PM
Berry's stuff is plated, not jacketed. Good stuff, though.

+1

Their web site has suggestions for load data

dnmccoy
January 12, 2012, 06:36 PM
Check out Xtreme plated bullets, I get mine from:

www.tjconevera.com

imsobored
January 12, 2012, 06:42 PM
I think at spacecoast bullets when i was there they were $33/500. Not sure if they where HP.

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sellersm
January 12, 2012, 06:52 PM
Look at Powder Valley, they're a bit cheaper. http://powdervalleyinc.com/

ETA: They are decent bullets, for plated. Xtreme, which was recommended above, have a tougher plating on them. Don't load them as regular FMJ, however cuz they're not. For the cost, you can sometimes get full FMJ for close or the same $$$ from places like Powdervalley or direct from Montana Gold or Precision Delta. I've used a lot of Berry's in 9mm 124gr and in .40 180gr.

1SOW
January 12, 2012, 10:05 PM
+1 For Berry's

Berry's .356" dia. 124gr HBRNTP is an excellent bullet at a good price . TP means thick plating. It is rated at 1450'/sec and used in 9 Super.

As 1k/day said:
Check powder valley and tjconeveras for great deals on berry's pills, in addition to berry's site.
The other Berry's bullets are also very good up to mid-range load data +.
Free shipping. They're shipped to your door, and no tax or gas to get them.

Cabellas prices are high.

bds
January 12, 2012, 10:28 PM
You mean 38 Super?

I am thinking 9 Major velocities ~ 1335 - 1415 fps (165-175 PF) for 124 gr bullet.

rfwobbly
January 12, 2012, 11:41 PM
Berry's stuff is plated, not jacketed. Good stuff, though. I wouldn't count on their plated hollow points to perform like true bonded JHP however.

Don't hold your breath. Berrys is developing a ultra-thick plated hollow point bullet for SD as we speak. I've seen development photos and the results look good.

Chris-bob
January 13, 2012, 01:58 AM
The plated bullets are not to be loaded as hot as jacketed bullets. So be aware.
From their website:
Plated bullets occupy a position between cast bullets and jacketed bullets. They are soft lead, but have a hard outer shell on them. When loading plated bullets we have found best results using low- to mid-range jacketed data in the load manual. You must use data for a bullet that has the same weight and profile as the one you are loading. Do not exceed mid-range loads. Do not use magnum loads.
http://www.berrysmfg.com/faq-q9-c1-How_do_I_load_Berrys_Preferred_Plated_Bullets.aspx

1SOW
January 13, 2012, 02:03 AM
Chris-bob, if you'll go back to their website and look up the 124 HBRNTP you'll also see rated at 1450'/sec for 38Super loads

---which is also 9mm bds:D---but you are correct "38 Super" with a .356" plated bullet. I want to shoot 9 major, and I'm looking hard at that Berry's bullet as one of two that would be easy to load to that speed with a 9mm Luger case..

Blue68f100
January 13, 2012, 10:55 AM
One thing I like about Berry's is that they are sized closer to lead dimension, +0.0005"-0.001" over size. The barrel in my gun is over size (0.357) so the over size shoots more accurate in it.

springer99
January 13, 2012, 11:09 AM
Haven't used them yet, but this looks to be a good choice for a FMJ bullet. FWIW, I haven't had much luck with cast or plated bullets in 9mm.

http://www.precisiondelta.com/detail.php?sku=B-9-115-FMJ

1KPerDay
January 13, 2012, 01:26 PM
One thing I like about Berry's is that they are sized closer to lead dimension, +0.0005"-0.001" over size. The barrel in my gun is over size (0.357) so the over size shoots more accurate in it.
FYI Missouri Bullet Company will custom size their pills for you... I got some 9mm "smallball" lead pills from them sized to .358 for my .357 bore SIG and Beretta and they work great.

/hijack

Chris-bob
January 13, 2012, 10:00 PM
I picked up 1000 rounds of Berry's plated 9mm 115gr RN a while back. Still haven't gotten around to loading it. Am planning on using it for plinking rounds. A buddy of mine loves them for plinking also.

flgolfer29
January 13, 2012, 11:50 PM
I just received 9mm 124gr JHP from Precision Delta for $84.00 (1000 ea) & $5.00 freight in the mail today. I've ordered from them on several occasions and have been very pleased. I shoot Berry's also, but PD is cheaper.

joe

777TRUTH
January 14, 2012, 08:49 AM
I have tried the Berry 124gr RBRN and I am not getting the accuracy that I usually get from PD or MG FMJ.

Maybe this thread or a new thread with pet loads Berry's plated in 9mm would be a good idea?

Watcha think?

Blue68f100
January 14, 2012, 03:48 PM
The single one thing you do not not want to do with plated bullets is OVER CRIMP. If you fail the jacket you will not get any accuracy at all. Only crimp enough to remove the flare.

I use 4.8gr of WSF behind Berry's 124gr RN w/COL - 1.160" You need to see if your gun can handle the long length. This load is listed as Max for Lead. But Berry's says you can use Lead to mid std jacketed loads.

777TRUTH
January 14, 2012, 05:22 PM
With the Berry 124 gr HBRN I have set my crimp to .377.

I have tried

4.1 gr BE 1.15 COL
5.8gr Power Pistol 1.15 COL

The PP load did perform better than the BE but not by much.

I have done some reading here on THR and found a couple of threads where BDS did some testing http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=581070.

I am going to try the 124gr HBRN with the following

4.4gr HP-38 - 1.135 COL
3.8gr BE - 1.14 COL
5.3gr PP - 1.15 COL (recipe from another board)

Lets see how they work.

armoredman
January 14, 2012, 05:24 PM
I have been using Berry's products for some time, and I found the PHP is a bullet that requires care in loading, due to the far forward shoulder. Coupled with the CZ "short chamber", I load the PHP shorter than most people would dare with any 9mm bullet - 1.020 over 6.4 grains of Accurate Arms #7. I do use a very light Lee FCD crimp, and get good repeatable results. It makes for a good plinking/target bullet, but the bullet is NOT designed to expand. Someday I'll have enough water filled milk jugs to see just what it does do, however. :)

I can't say anything about the new Berry's self defense hollow point except for one thing...keep an eye on S.H.O.T. ;)

jfrey
January 15, 2012, 12:14 AM
The Berry's 115 gr. RNDS is all I load in 9mm for target work and it works just fine in 7 different 9mm's.

Loic
January 26, 2012, 06:29 PM
I cannot find any loading data for the 9mm 124gr HBRN from berry using win 231 powder.

john16443
January 26, 2012, 07:00 PM
I cannot find any loading data for the 9mm 124gr HBRN from berry using win 231 powder.
Read through this post. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=581070 special attention to the posts by BDS.

In general, whatever load of 231 you're using for 124 RN can be used for 124 HBRN.

Loic
January 26, 2012, 07:14 PM
Thanks ! Right now I'm finishing a box of 115 gr plated bullet (rainiers plated) so it will be my first time reliading 124 gr.
But from the link, its seems that the 4.3 gr of win 231 I'm loading now would be a good mid range with Berry's 124 gr hb

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J_McLeod
January 26, 2012, 08:29 PM
Personally, I don't see the point to Berry's Bullets. Why buy plated with limited data and velocity when I get Montana Gold jacketed for the same price, or significantly cheaper by the case?

Hondo 60
January 26, 2012, 08:39 PM
Personally, I don't see the point to Berry's Bullets.

I can't afford & certainly don't need $327 worth of bullets at any one time.
While I do shoot 9mm, it's only 250 or so a year.
And wouldn't you know it, Berry's just happens to sell them in boxes of 250. :D

I have a lot of other calibers to shoot as well.

floydster
January 26, 2012, 08:39 PM
J_McLeod,---Amen!!!

1SOW
January 27, 2012, 12:57 AM
J_McLeod, Same reason there are Fords and Chevys. Some want .356, some don't care. Some like the style, some don't.

I use MG 124 CMJs too, a case of 3750 bullets is 8.5cents per bullet. Berry's 124 HBRN TP DS is 8.8 cents each delivered from tjconevera.com . Other Berry's 124 gr are less expensive than the MG's.

The Berry's has a bigger dia, seals tighter and takes slightly less powder to run the same speed.

I'm also a fan of 125gr Zero JHPs. They cost more than either of the above.

All three are very good bulk bullets.

REL1203
January 27, 2012, 10:35 AM
I have used Berrys 9mm for years, and i still do use Berrys 147g RN for competition, but I just took delivery of 3750 MG JHP 124g for $320 and these bullets are fantastic.

littlebob3
January 28, 2012, 10:36 AM
Received from Alliant Powder - Ask the Expert Form.

9mm Luger

115 gr lead bullet
Bullseye start 4 grs max 4.5 grs
Unique start 4.5 max 5 grs
Power Pistol start 5 grs max 5.5 grs

115 gr jacketed bullet
Bullseye start 4 grs max 4.5 grs
Unique start 4.5 grs max 5.5 grs
Power Pistol start 5.9 grs max 6.3 grs

124/125 gr lead
Bullseye start 3.8 grs max 4.3 grs
Unique start 4 grs max 4.5 grs
Power Pistol start 4.8 grs max 5.3 grs

124/125 gr jacketed
Bullseye start 3.9 grs max 4.3 grs
Unique start 4.5 grs max 5 grs
Power Pistol start 5 grs max 5.5 grs

147 gr lead
Bullseye start 2.8 grs max 3.3 grs
Unique start 3.2 grs max 3.6 grs
Power Pistol start 4 grs max 4.5 grs

147 gr jacketed
Unique start 4 grs max 4.5 grs
Power Pistol start 4.5 grs max 5 grs

Note: Start with the minimum charge wt. Reload just a few and be sure they will properly cycle the action of your pistol before reloading a quantity.

LittleBob3

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