700 rem for .35 rem


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J-TIPTON
January 25, 2012, 01:47 PM
What caliber offered in a 700
Model could be conv. To a .35 rem

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Winchester101
January 25, 2012, 01:57 PM
I think most any 700 could be rebarreled to 35 Rem, be aware though, the bolt face may need some work. The 35 Rem case head is it's own odd size, not the same as 308/30-06, it's a tad smaller. The 308/30-06 case head is .473" while the 35 Rem is .460". Case length of the 35 Rem is 1.920" which means it would fit into a short action meant for the 308 Win (case length 2.015"). I'm not sure about the bolt face work, but it may be needed for reliable feeding/extraction, just wanted to make you aware of it.

I used to shoot the 35 Rem in a Marlin lever gun and I've always thought it would be great in a bolt gun. If I remember correctly Remington used to offer a custom shop model 7 in 35 Rem with a laminated Mannlicher stock. THAT would be a sweet little gun.

W101

J-TIPTON
January 25, 2012, 02:17 PM
Thanks what about the reaming is a 308. Going to small enough to ream to a .35 rem? ????

LoonWulf
January 25, 2012, 03:59 PM
Why not a .358 Win?. It would be a simple rebore, or replacing the barrel, and rechambering.

The .35 remington would require replacing the barrel, as the case is smaller then the .308s, you wouldnt be able to cut the chamber out. Also i wouldnt be comfortable with a .010 (and change since most bolt faces are already oversized), over sized bolt face.

If i were going to do it I would start with a 6.8 SPC chambered rifle, ream the bolt face, add a sako or ar style extractor and rebore/place the barrel. Or go with a .308 rifle, add a bushing to the bolt face and a sako style extractor.

d2wing
January 25, 2012, 04:44 PM
Since it is a pretty short low energy round it makes a dandy lever action round at close range. Or in my case an old pump rifle. I like it in a pistol too. I don't know why you'd want it in a bolt gun. It drops a foot at 200 yards and is only 700 ft/lbs energy at that range.

rcmodel
January 25, 2012, 04:56 PM
The Model 7 in .35 Rem is still available from the Remington Custom Shop.

And sweet it is!

http://www.remingtoncustom.com/HunterGrade_7CustomMS.aspx

Whatever it costs would probably still be cheaper then turning a 700 into one.

rc

LoonWulf
January 25, 2012, 05:08 PM
and handier :D, thats a damn cool rifle RC, i didnt know they made any of the 7s in .35 rem

Jim Watson
January 25, 2012, 08:09 PM
I had an old Remington 600 in .35, wavery nylon vent rib and all.
I would prefer it to any .30-30 or .35 lever action I ever saw, but not being a hunter did not have a real application and traded it for a big heavy .308 Carl Gustav.

Abel
January 25, 2012, 08:46 PM
If money weren't no thing:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=270949038

Geno
January 25, 2012, 09:20 PM
I handled one of the .35 Rem M7 Kevlar carbines back some years ago. I also handled one of the .350 Rem Mag M7 with Kevlar. At that time, the price was in the range of $1,500. They both were very nice, light, well-balanced carbines, but wouldn't have served my purpose for bean field hunting. That doesn't mean I don't lust about one in .35 Rem. :o Then again, I'd like to see a M70 Featherweight in .30-30 Win. :o I'm pretty much convinced that you could never wear out either carbine, in either caliber.

Geno

Abel
January 25, 2012, 09:26 PM
Beanfields? What about oak hollars?

Geno
January 25, 2012, 09:29 PM
Abel:

Yup. That's why I still lust over them.

Geno

Gordon
January 25, 2012, 10:30 PM
Eat your hearts out gents:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/026.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/029.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/032.jpg

LoonWulf
January 25, 2012, 10:47 PM
Gordon....i hate you just a little bit right now :p

J-TIPTON
January 26, 2012, 04:47 PM
Seriously.......gordon that's just wrong I thought we were all grown ups...

J-TIPTON
January 26, 2012, 07:25 PM
So I guess that model 7 is rather costly

Abel
January 26, 2012, 08:23 PM
Yup. I figure I could find a smith to make one for $1500. Nothing crazy, just some sort of a short action with a decent barrel and McMillan stock and a Jewel trigger.

Gordon
January 26, 2012, 08:35 PM
The way to do it is buy a .222 Remington 700 and have the bolt face opened up (or the 6.8 if you can find one it is real close) . Welding is kinda a hack job, but the AR or Sako extractor if done right is nice.
Here is a 600 like mine, I'll bet you could get it around $1000 which would put you ahead of $1500
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=271236193
Here is another for $1250 which looks like good walnut figure
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=270796610
the 600 was only made a couple years in mid 60s in .35 Rem. I REALLY like the 600 stock design for hunting. The plastic parts actually held up on ones stored properly. You can get repro Plastic rib and trigger guard or metal ones readily enough. The triggers can be reworked very nicely or put in an aftermarket one like a Timney ect.
My 600 .35 Rem is an under MOA gun with a 4x scope! BTW the dogleg bolt works better than the 700 bolt from the shoulder as it is perfectly positioned to be run from the shoulder! The 600 sights are much like target pistol sights! With the modern PIC rail I installed and quick release rings you have good back up sights!
The standard .35 Remington has less blast than a .308 type cartridge as it runs 10,000 psi less. In a rifle like a 600 0r Model 7 it is an easy feat to push 180 grain semi spitzers to almost 2500 fps which would be about a 50,000 psi load but the brass like 6.8 brass is real strong. Just keep it away from the old guns!
I like the good old 200 grain Remington Core loktd load which is just over 2000fps in the 18" barrel. It REALLY is about an optimum large hog load IMHO within 200 yards. A good 1-4x or 2.5x scope seems about right for such work.

Eb1
January 26, 2012, 09:03 PM
See. Now I have to sell all of my cool rifles to get some really cool rifles. Dang!!!!

d2wing
January 26, 2012, 11:59 PM
Gordon, my .35 Rem is just like your middle one but without the scope. Sweet, it was my dad's.

J-TIPTON
January 27, 2012, 12:00 AM
That's great info gordon...thanks..... I guess we all know why. 35. Rems are lacking in variety.....butttttt..I would think Remington would support this round a little more maybee a 20" bolt action I believe would sell slow then pick up with a following group of brush gunners it would kinda stand alone..except for many lever guns wich I also have..what can y'all compare it to? ?????? 200 grain lightish recoil

Abel
January 27, 2012, 07:04 AM
Another cartridge with 200 grain pills and light recoil? Hmmm. Nope. Ruger makes that M77/357 rifle that's probably fun to shoot.

hardluk1
January 27, 2012, 08:29 AM
remmy did have the 700 cdl in 35 whelen

GooseGestapo
January 27, 2012, 10:02 AM
There is no need to change the bolt face on a Mod-7 with .308 -ect bolt face. I just checked both my 7-08 and .260 with a .35Rem case. Though they wouldn't chamber it, (bolt close), they did feed and extract/eject the case.

However, I would chamber it for .358 (Have both a .35Rem AND a .358). I also would NOT re-bore a factory Remington barrel. E.R. Shaw will rebarrel to factory contour, and even their barrels are better than the factory offerings. Or, have a gunsmith turn down a Shilen or such.

Any velocity level you want up to approaching the .350RemMag/.35Whelen is doable with the .358. It's simply the .35Rem on "steroids". There really isn't as much difference between the .35Rem and .358 as you would imagine. Both run out of powder space before you get drastically over pressure with appropriate powders. (ie: Acc.#2520, IMR3031).

The .358 only holds about 3.0gr more powder and the .35Rem can be run to within ~5,000psi of the .358 with reloads. Hence, the difference between my .35Rem handloads and the .358 is the difference between 2,250fps and 2,500fps. This is with a Marlin M336 and a Browning BLR. (200gr bullets).

The best thing about the .358 is the abundance of .308 cases to reform for reloading.

Given the cost of .35cal bullets, I would just get a Rem. Mod-7 in 7mm08 (or .308) and call it good..... I really, really like my 7mm08. Even more after spending a year loading, shooting, and hunting with a .260Rem in a Rem. Mod-7.....

If wanting a lever-action, go with a Marlin .338ME. Greater powder capacity (slightly), and better down range ballitics. (But has same short range "smack" on deer as the slightly larger .35cal bullets.). I prefer my .338ME to my .358BLR due to ergonomics, as well as ballistics.....

kev778
January 27, 2012, 11:52 AM
Why not the .350 Rem MAG cartridge. It kills in front and cripples behind. Pretty darn accurate up to 200yds

J-TIPTON
January 27, 2012, 12:33 PM
I guess anything could be the same or better or flater or sub moa ..but its not a .35 rem light recoil big thump 150 yd deer slayer....I guess if we said 35 vs 30-30 its just about a 50-50. Argument...I've already run them rabbits.....so if it came to 308? Vs 35 rem in bolt action would you say its 308 just hands down or could. 35 rem still fill its own niche..

d2wing
January 27, 2012, 01:24 PM
The 308 is better in every way except recoil. The point of the .35 is in short light guns. There isn't a big demand for the .35 with so many more effective modern rounds to use the longer stronger bolt action.

hardluk1
January 27, 2012, 03:49 PM
Why not a 35 Whelen

WVRJ
January 27, 2012, 03:56 PM
I have a 21" for the Contender carbine and with 180 gr. Hornady SSP's it it one wicked deadly whitetail rifle.Recoil can be stout for some,it only weighs a lil over 5 lbs,but it's a handy package,and good out to 200 yards or better.Nothing wrong for the caliber,but if I were doing a bolt gun,I'd go for the .358 Win instead.

Gordon
January 27, 2012, 04:50 PM
Yeah prolly the .358 is the way to go in a bolt gun. Easy to make cases. little more umph, still short and sweet.

Abel
January 27, 2012, 06:35 PM
The whole point of the 35 Rem over a 308 is because its cooler. Let's stay on topic here. :cool:

J-TIPTON
January 31, 2012, 01:14 PM
The whole point of the 35 Rem over a 308 is because its cooler. Let's stay on topic here. :cool:
Alright finally someone who knows more than just some b.s. numbers and stats thanks abel right on track with that ...+

J-TIPTON
January 31, 2012, 03:07 PM
35 rem is perfect for its intended purpose. 200 grain light recoil brush style gun..however in bolt form it could still run against a 308 all day long were talking about DEER KILLIN....not Paper Punching and 100 + yard shots through brush are done with 180 + grain bullets I hunt in river swamps and thickets or cut overs not 3000 yard food plots and fields or I might hunt with 50 bmg or a 338 lapua..35 rem is justfine with me... seems like some calibers get pushed aside for no reason 270 used to be an elk/ big game cartridge but most people would say anything less than a 300 win mag is inadequate ...ever animal in this
World has been beaten clubbed or shot with a stick.

Lloyd Smale
January 31, 2012, 04:24 PM
Dont get me wrong i love the 35 rem and have 3. All levers though. I just cant see why a bolt gun chambered for it. It has no advantage over a lever and is slower for brush hunting the round is most used for. If im going to do a bolt .35 its would be a 358 350mag or 35 whelen. Anyone one of them can be loaded down to 35 rem ballistics if you want to play at that level.

J-TIPTON
January 31, 2012, 10:57 PM
I like the 358 win great option l would like to get something similar to my sons CZ 527 7.62x39 light handy brush gun ..357 ruger sounds good...wish there was a 357 super mag carbine

.45Guy
January 31, 2012, 11:22 PM
You could probably find a model 30 in .35 as well.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/961901084/Guns/Rifles/Remington-Rifles-Modern/Bolt-Action-Non-Model-700/Sporting/Remington_Express_Model_30_35_Rem_Lots_Of_Chrome.htm

J-TIPTON
January 31, 2012, 11:40 PM
You could probably find a model 30 in .35 as well.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/961901084/Guns/Rifles/Remington-Rifles-Modern/Bolt-Action-Non-Model-700/Sporting/Remington_Express_Model_30_35_Rem_Lots_Of_Chrome.htm
That was perfect thanks already added to wish list going to my gun broker next week to buy one of afore mentioned guns

.45Guy
January 31, 2012, 11:42 PM
Good choice. Nothing like an M1917 action. There is also a cheaper and handier option, but I shan't mention it for fear of being flamed.:)

Abel
February 1, 2012, 07:22 AM
That was perfect thanks already added to wish list going to my gun broker next week to buy one of afore mentioned guns.

Keep me posted!!

T.R.
February 1, 2012, 07:39 AM
The 6.8mm cartridge should have same case dimensions except for the neck of course.

35 Remington loaded (safely) with Speer 180 grain bullet replicates 300 Savage ballistics out to 200 yards. That's what I shoot in my Marlin 336-A rifle. Hits hard, too!

TR

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/Marlin35.jpg

.45Guy
February 1, 2012, 09:00 AM
6.8 is based off the .25,.30,and.32 case. Whole 'nother animal, longer case and smaller head diameter.

J-TIPTON
February 1, 2012, 10:50 AM
Good choice. Nothing like an M1917 action. There is also a cheaper and handier option, but I shan't mention it for fear of being flamed.:)
Come on with it

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