[Mike1234567]

I'm sorry if this has been answered before. I'm too feeble-minded these days to find and decipher federal regs.:o

Is it legal, without a tax stamp, to put a rifle buttstock on a Ruger Charger pistol with a 12" barrel? Or does that make it a SBR? I think I knew the answer once... but I've forgotten.:(

[Rail Driver]

Not legal without tax stamp.

[Acera]

Not legal without a stamp. Just like putting a shoulder stock on any other handgun.

[Mike1234567]

Thanks, folks. That's what I was afraid of.

BATFE = No fun fo' us po' folk.:)

[Mot45acp]

If you do it in the following order:

Remove current stock
Remove barrel
Install >16" barrel
Install stock of your choice.

But it would be cheaper to just buy a new 10/22. If you want the 12" barrel and stock you need $200 and lots o patience.

[Mike1234567]

Since I want to use a sound suppressor (I know that's another tax stamp) then maybe I'll just have it silver soldered to the threads (I know I need one that disassembles from the front for cleaning). That'll get me past the 16" limit.

BTW, it's not that I can't afford the tax stamps. I'm just a cheap SOB plus... I really resent BATFE/IRS for what I consider thug-enforced thievery. Here's a smiley face to take the sharp edges off of my rant. ( :) )

[rjrivero]

If you want to use a suppressor with a short barrel, consider getting one of Tactical Solutions SB-X barrels (http://www.tacticalsol.com/tshome/category/ruger-rifles/ruger-rifle-accessories/ruger-rifle-barrel-upgrades). They have a perm attached muzzle device that allows the attachment of a suppressor under the shroud. The barrel length is the legal 16" but the suppressor only adds 3/4" or so to the overall length.

Silver soldering a suppressor to the end of the barrel makes it almost impossible to take apart and clean. Usually you have to push the baffles out from the end of the suppressor, and if it's mounted to a barrel permanently, it's not going to happen.

http://www.tacticalsol.com/tshome/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sbx-complete-rifle.jpg

[Mike1234567]

^^^ Link saved... thank you!!

[rjrivero]

You're welcome, Mike. There are some states in which you CAN'T have SBR's but can have suppressors. These shrouded barrels are a good solution for such instances.

[Mike1234567]

^^^ In Texas I can have both but... why pay the Fed taxes when I can support a business instead? :)

[Strykervet]

S&H makes an integral 10/22. That thing is QUIET. A lot quieter than you'll ever get with a thread on, and if you are cool with it being permanent, I'd go this way.

[Mike1234567]

^^^ Thank you but here's the thing though. This will be a dedicated Aguila SSS rifle and this ammo seems to prefer a 10-12" barrel for maximum velocity which is still well under the speed of sound. A shorter or longer barrel will impede velocity. Likewise, an integrally suppressed barrel will impede velocity.

[Rail Driver]

An integrally suppressed barrel of a given length will not impede velocity any more than a non-integrally suppressed 12" barrel with a suppressor/shroud setup as with the TacSol SB-X. You can look at the TacSol setup with suppressor installed pretty much the same as an integrally suppressed barrel/gun of legal length.

A very nice setup can be had from Thompson Machine: http://www.thompsonmachine.net/?page_id=14

http://www.thompsonmachine.net/img/sup/tm229.jpg