First frankengun build


January 28, 2012, 04:04 PM

I had a couple of stripped lowers sitting around and started accumulating parts.
So I started looking for bargains and ended up with a Del-Ton/LRB arms/JV precision/ Armalite/ Stag/ DSA/ Palmetto State Armory. No kidding, but the best part is that it all fits and matches really well and shoots like a dream! I took it out to the range shooting some Hornady 55 gr V-Max. At 200 yards with the sights as shown I was hitting the 200 yard plate with every shot. All I did was clean up the trigger a little bit and man that thing is nice. Upper is a Del-Ton heavy barrel mid length upper 1/9 twist not chrome lined. It ejects brass to about 4 o'clock in a neat pile. I haven't really shot for groups yet but I am sure it will group real nice. Stripped lower to me was 90 total, Upper and stock kit was 432 to me, parts kit was 65. Thats 587 without rear sight and mag. It was fun to put together and really fun to shoot!

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January 28, 2012, 04:52 PM
Nice carbine. I'm tired of the "frankingun" monicker for ars though. No one company makes all the parts to build an ar. Face it, they are just tinker toys that are the sum of different parts. It's nice to have a gun with all the parts stamped with the same logo. But this does not nessessarily make it a great shooter.

The proof is in the post. Nice looking carbine and shoots good for you too.

Look forward to seeing the next one.



January 28, 2012, 05:48 PM
I am impressed with the matchup of the parts and how it shoots! It goes to show you don't need to drop 1000 to get an AR that can hit really well! Now it is not chrome lined, buy hey I just got off a prairie dog town the other day thinking I need a shooter, and frankly I like this one a lot. The feed ramps are polished, now not like mirror polished but they are shiny. So I have owned Bushmaster, 2 Armalites, S&W M&P15, and this parts gun at least as nice as those. maybe I just lucked out.

Buck Kramer
January 28, 2012, 09:44 PM
Nice, not a frankenbuild, all PSA, but heres my new build...

January 28, 2012, 10:44 PM
thanks for the pics Buck. Nice dissipator setup, MOE handguard looks good

January 29, 2012, 12:02 AM
very nice looking little rifle. lots of folks dont seem to care for the hbar configuration (too heavy for zombie duty or something like that) but they are actually my favorites.

i have 2 setup just about like that.

congrats on a fine looking rig.

January 29, 2012, 07:57 AM
Nothing "frankingun" about your build at all. A wise selection of parts.

January 29, 2012, 08:04 AM
Nice, not a frankenbuild, all PSA, but heres my new build...

Is that a true Rifle length gas?

January 29, 2012, 09:29 AM
Nice, not a frankenbuild, all PSA, but heres my new build...
Might I suggest removing your rear sight from its current location, spinning it 180deg, moving the EOTech as far forward as you can on the receiver and reinstall the rear sight as far back as possible. That will give you a longer sight radius, make the rear peep work as it should (both as a peep and for proper windage agjustment) and won't affect the use of the EOTech at all.

Just a suggestion.

Buck Kramer
January 30, 2012, 10:34 PM
Nope, mock dissipator, mid length low pro gas block.

Buck Kramer
January 30, 2012, 10:36 PM
Helotaxi, I am waiting on a UTG BUS that will fit behind the eotech. The one I have on there I got for $10, just threw it on there for now.

January 31, 2012, 10:15 AM
Yeah, to be a Franken-whatever it kinda has to be made up of parts that really shouldn't go together and need a lot of brute force to make work (sort of work?)

Best examples were the Century FALs made of used inch pattern parts assembled onto metric lowers. Even this is borderline "franken..", I think. Putting an AR lower and an SKS together and making it (sort of) run would be very Frankenstein.

For more background on the concept, read Mary Shelley's Frankenstein or eat a bowl of Frankenberry cereal.

January 31, 2012, 10:36 AM
In the AR world, this: "Del-Ton/LRB arms/JV precision/ Armalite/ Stag/ DSA/ Palmetto State Armory." is a frankengun. The term was likely invented from the perspective that only a Branded single source of parts already assembled could do the job right. Something just pinned together on the kitchen table after lunch on Saturday couldn't possibly be any good.

The point about AR's isn't so much the unique action as the unique modularity of design. After all, anyone can order the parts, get an FFL constructors license, and go into business with just a chamber gauge and a drill. No press is needed for assembling barrels to receivers - the barrel extension is screwed on, once set, it's drilled and pinned. The barrel is simply inserted into the upper and the nut tightened down, there are even quick change versions already on the market using collet wrenches. Driving roll pins in the lower is the hardest part to do without marring it.

MOST gun "makers" in the AR world don't make the parts, even Colt buys it's platters out from a drop forger. It's really shouldn't be any surprise that parts could be ordered in and assembled with very little mechanical knowledge, and a decent working firearm result.

Having done that with my AGP/LAR/DPMS/ARP/High Standard/Cav Arms/Armalite/BRT 6.8 dissipator, it does ok, too.

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