Do you clean the inside of your brass?


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gamestalker
January 29, 2012, 10:53 PM
Does anyone else clean the inside of their bottle neck brass? I'm pretty serious about it and use acetone, Q tips, and a bore brush on each case prior to it getting reloaded. My purpose it to try and produce an enviroment for the powder and primer, that is as close to 100% free of anything that could alter or effect the typical burn properties of that powder. And based on what comes out of the brass after each reloading, I feel internal cleaning is a necessary and worthy step.
I use acetone because it is 100% residue free, it desolves carbons on contact, and it evaporates almost instantly and leaves the case free of any residue.

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rcmodel
January 29, 2012, 11:04 PM
Heck no!

I pick it up where it falls.
I shake spider nests and rocks out of it.
I tumble clean it.
I resize and deprime it.
I load it.
I tumble clean again for 30 minutes or so.

Washing the inside of all my rifle brass with Q-Tips & acetone?
Would probably lead to my wife or children getting me professional help of some sort I don't want to contemplate right now.

rc

Certaindeaf
January 29, 2012, 11:16 PM
Fire cleanses all.

animator
January 29, 2012, 11:17 PM
I can't imagine the time it would take to do several thousand pieces to be worth it...


If you want inside and outside to look brand new, use stainless media. Otherwise, whatever's on the inside isn't going to hurt or affect anything.

788Ham
January 29, 2012, 11:21 PM
NO, thats being kinda asinine. When that primer ignites the powder charge, anything in there besides the powder is instant "flash" gone! I've used a bore brush to clean out the mouths of a few that had been in the mud/water, throw them into the tumbler and kick it on. After I've resized them, I'll throw them into the tumbler again to get the lube off, then get to reloading! Simmer down, no need to get Ben Casey on things.

NeuseRvrRat
January 29, 2012, 11:21 PM
i'll second the stainless media for cleaning the insides of cases. it cleans my brass completely. outside, inside, primer pocket, and flash hole are all spotless.

Steve in PA
January 30, 2012, 12:20 AM
Nope. Big waste of time as I see it.

crazy4milsurps
January 30, 2012, 12:54 AM
I tumble, then wash em in the sink with dawn and scrub the insides with a bore mop. there are many extra steps I take to produce the most accurate ammo in my neck of the woods. I am not ashamed to say that it takes me 8 hours to load 100 rounds of .303 British.

crazy4milsurps
January 30, 2012, 12:57 AM
@ NeuseRvrRat have they came up with cheaper set ups? last i checked this route was rather expensive....worth it but expensive.

Mike 27
January 30, 2012, 01:01 AM
I do not worry about it. I did pick up an ultrasonic a few weeks ago though for my guns. It came with a bottle of brass cleaner so I figured I would give it a try. 8 minutes later the inside and out are spotless. Some of it had about 5 or 6 loads through it. After I threw it in the tumbler and polished for an hour. It looks great. If this is a must for you gamestalker I think you may want to invest in the 100 bucks and save some hassle. Like I said though I picked it up for some of my antique pistols that needed some extra love. It worked great for that as well.

ArchAngelCD
January 30, 2012, 01:40 AM
I don't even like doing the things I have to do on rifle brass let alone adding an additional step. The inside of the brass is just fine the way it is IMO. And, I only clean the outside of the brass to protect my dies.

cfullgraf
January 30, 2012, 07:29 AM
Does anyone else clean the inside of their bottle neck brass? I'm pretty serious about it and use acetone, Q tips, and a bore brush on each case prior to it getting reloaded.

Even if I could not dry tumble, I would not bother hand polishing the outside of my cases. I have better uses of my time. But, if it "rings your bell", then have at it.

If you want your cases easily cleaned like new, inside and out, stainless steel wet tumbling is the way to go.

Unfortunately, it is not inexpensive to get started. $200 plus for the tumbler, $35-$45 for 5 pounds of stainless pins and the ability to about 200 or so hand gun cases or 100 bottle neck cases at a time. Larger equipment is available at an increase in cost.

Wet tumbling is more time consuming than dry tumbling. Cases have to be rinsed and dried after tumbling.

Oh, but the cases look like new.

Some folks wet tumble without the pins or use ultra sonic cleaners with success by varying the wash mix. It works for them.

I do both wet and dry tumbling. I wet tumble with pins once in a while after the cases get grungy inside. I use dry tumbling in between times.

Tunanut
January 30, 2012, 07:39 AM
I'll third the stainless steel media. Brass comes out looking like new, clean inside and out. Primer pockets are cleaned as well.

USSR
January 30, 2012, 07:48 AM
My purpose it to try and produce an enviroment for the powder and primer, that is as close to 100% free of anything that could alter or effect the typical burn properties of that powder.

The environment is just fine, and the powder won't burn one lick better if you go to all that trouble. IMHO, your time would be MUCH better spent using quality brass, bullets, and reloading dies.

Don

The Bushmaster
January 30, 2012, 08:07 AM
Nope.......

jack44
January 30, 2012, 08:50 AM
no ....

capreppy
January 30, 2012, 09:04 AM
I use SS media to clean my brass so it cleans inside / outside and does a decent job on necks. With that being said, SS media isn't for everyone.

Walkalong
January 30, 2012, 09:08 AM
The environment is just fine, and the powder won't burn one lick better if you go to all that trouble. IMHO, your time would be MUCH better spent using quality brass, bullets, and reloading dies.Yep. Never did anything but wipe the outside of the case with never dull, wipe that off, then brush the necks of my 6PPC brass, and it was capable of shooting zeros at 100 yards. (Too bad I wasn't very often. I did shoot a lot of small ones though.)

joed
January 30, 2012, 09:39 AM
In 34 years I've never cleaned the inside of any case. The last year that has changed. I started cleaning using an ultra sonic device. In 15 minutes there is one spec of carbon left anywhere on that case.

Kevin Rohrer
January 30, 2012, 09:45 AM
This is one of the most anal retentive questions I have ever read. :what:

:)Tumble
:)Reload
:)Tumble
:)Fire
:)Repeat

snuffy
January 30, 2012, 12:26 PM
GS, your basis for doing all that unnecessary work is what? It bothers you that the inside of the case has some carbon in it? It doesn't bother anything as far as performance of the round. AND it does not "build up". It's sort of self limiting. After the initial firing, it stays the same level of a coating.

Those that insist on the Stainless pin method of tumbling,(hardly PAINLESS), are all thinking they're ridding the inside of that nasty carbon. It must help them sleep better at night.;) It does nothing other than you can say with pride, "my cases are clean inside and out"!

Now, if you were shooting a BPCR,(Black Powder Cartridge Rifle), then the residue from black powder should be removed, it DOES build up. Most that shoot those big BP shells immediately dunk them in soapy water to keep the fouling soft. They are then cleaned as soon as they get home, along with the rifles bore,(which also had a wet bore mop run down the bore).

Since you're shooting smokeless powder, you're wasting your time.

rikman
January 30, 2012, 12:40 PM
Nope, maybe a case neck brush if a little media is still inside.


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codefour
January 30, 2012, 12:47 PM
As a gift, I got a midsizd Lyman Untrasonic Cleaner. All I can say is wow..! The inside and outside comes out clean. And a tumble in corn cob afterwards turns your brass into jewelry. I would have never bought an ultrasonic cleaner on my own accord, but I am a believer now.

cfullgraf
January 30, 2012, 12:53 PM
It must help them sleep better at night.;) It does nothing other than you can say with pride, "my cases are clean inside and out"!



Yup, i sleep like a baby at night and I like to peer in the mouth of a case and see my eyeball staring back.

Certaindeaf
January 30, 2012, 12:54 PM
Doesn't that pin tumbling peen harden the brass? Ooh, pretty!

beatledog7
January 30, 2012, 12:56 PM
All I do inside is run a brush up into bottleneck brass to make sure there's nothing jammed in there.

gamestalker
January 30, 2012, 01:43 PM
Well, that was just about what I expected for responses, and I'm by no means offended. We all approach this hobby with our own personal agenda, mine has nothing to do with how long it takes me to build a round, as I immensely enjoy the time I spend with this hobby.

And RC, my Wife and grown children gave up trying to get me to seek professional help a long time ago.

And to those who recognize my sleep disorder, yes, I do sleep very well at night knowing the powder isn't having to share it's personal space with anything that doesn't belong there.

No, but seriously, I don't do it for appearance, it's primarily about the media dust that cakes up under the shoulder. I could really care less what the inside looks like, but more so my concern is, what's causing the media dust to cake up. I assume it is lube residue, which is where acetone comes into play.

The other benefit to having the inside nice and clean is, I sometimes enjoy drinking my coffee from a bottle neck casing, I just hate media dust floating around in it.
The first step in seeking help is, admitting I have a problem, I have now done that. So I assume the next step would be spending the money to go with stainless media?
GS

blarby
January 30, 2012, 01:56 PM
GS, you and I look eye-to-eye on a lot of reloading issues.

This is one of them !

Ultrasonic and tumbling gets my brass exactly the same as all this SS needle stuff I see pictures of floating around.

Scrub 'em surgical clean, do what you must to satisfy your desire for perfection.

Reloading isn't an art form/ zen task for most folks, it seems to fall somewhere between a chore and pseudo-science.

I will attest that ultrasonic cleaning gets the inside of the case spic and span, and home-made solutions are pennies.

If you are interested, don't buy ANY of the ultrasonics I've been able to find in catalogs or on the web....go to harbor freight. They have a FANTASTIC chicago power tool brand cleaner that rotates on and off "sale" in the $45-$60 range....considerably cheaper than anything i've seen lately.

No, you ain't crazy, you're persnickety..... there is a difference, and you are not alone.

Walkalong
January 30, 2012, 03:30 PM
Benchrest shooters don't do it. They wipe the outside and brush the neck. They shoot the same 15 to 20 cases all weekend long. Do it for any reason you want, but do not expect better accuracy, especially in anything less than a full blown custom bench gun, with a shooter who could prove the difference, if it existed.

crazy4milsurps
January 30, 2012, 03:41 PM
I haven't noticed any decrease or increase in how clean the inside of the case is but if I'm cleaning it I may as well go all of the way with it and I do sleep better at night.

FROGO207
January 30, 2012, 04:48 PM
I find with the SS media you can easily look into any casing and see what is or is not in there cause it is not a dark black hole anymore----even with those pesky bottle neck cases.:D If speed is a necessity then do not worry about cleaning your cases as it does not really matter for accuracy as already stated. Me I want them to shine just "because" so therefore I make them shine.:cool: Just choose your level of prep and load em up, they all will shoot fine. :D

Certaindeaf
January 30, 2012, 04:55 PM
Doesn't that pin tumbling peen harden the brass? Ooh, pretty!
Good question.

THe Dove
January 30, 2012, 05:12 PM
Do you clean the inside of your brass?


Every time I pull the trigger on a loaded round!

The Dove

Damon555
January 30, 2012, 05:28 PM
My purpose it to try and produce an enviroment for the powder and primer, that is as close to 100% free of anything that could alter or effect the typical burn properties of that powder.

If anything you are adding another way for the primer or powder to become contaminated.

You're just wasting your time.....

hang fire
January 31, 2012, 01:43 AM
Only when I tumble it once in a while.

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