[Crabcakes]

I have cash in hand and I'm ready to buy... I just don't know which options to go with. I have about $1500 to spend on both upper and suppressor.

I want a suppressor that will work with all 3 of my 5.56 AR15s and would also like it to work with my 3 22LR rifles. I've read that using 22LR through a 5.56 suppressor isn't the best idea though because of lead buildup or something?

Anyway I just want to make sure the upper and suppressor are compatible and will make the rifle as quiet as possible while not breaking the bank. I do not plan on using the suppressor with any other calibers. My registered lower is a RRA if that makes any difference.

The main purpose of the 10.5" rifle was just for fun. I'm not going to be hunting with it and I don't expect there to be some zombie apocalypse. I mostly want a lightweight quiet rifle to shoot on my cousin's ranch so we wouldn't bug the neighbors. We're just going to be target shooting and plinking cans and whatnot most of the time under 50 yards. I'd like the suppressor to work with my Sig 522 (22LR) because 5.56 isn't cheap ;) But I do understand if it's better if I just get a dedicated 22LR suppressor in the future. Of course I'd want one suppressor to work with my other AR15s though because I'm sure 10.5" won't be that great at the 200 yard outdoor range I go to so it would be useful to throw it on my 20" upper as well.

This is my first NFA purchase and I just want to make sure I make the right choice as this stuff will belong to my trust for the rest of my life. Any help is appreciated even if it's to tell me to save up more money and get better quality stuff.

[rjrivero]

I've written this recently in a different thread.

The .22 and .223 should really have different suppressors. The demands on the suppressors are vastly different between these two rounds. K baffles do a fantastic job with the relatively low pressure .22LR but fir the .223 you would require something that can handle the much higher pressure of .223. The fact that .22 is infinitely more dirty than .223 means you will want a suppressor that you can take apart and clean for that round. The .223 burns much better and sealed cans are the norm for that application. Yes the bullet sizes are the same, but that's really where the comparison ends. The composition of .22LR vs. .223 is going to make you want to have a can you can take apart and clean for the .22, but the high pressure of the .223 means having a can that can withstand higher pressures.

With that said, there are some .223 cans that are user serviceable (Take apart). Coastal makes one, and Huntertown Arms has introduced their new Kestrel 5.56 that is also user serviceable. (Should be available in January.)

My personal recommendation is to get a Huntertown Arms .22 Suppressor (About $200) and then get yourself a 5.56 Suppressor.

[Crabcakes]

Thanks for the recommendation. I will definitely follow it. I can always get a .22 suppressor in the future as right now I'm more interested in 5.56 :)

[rjrivero]

If you're going to get a good 5.56 suppressor, my personal favorites have been Ops Inc. No frills, no nonsense. The Reflex style can with two point mounting system is solid. The muzzle break mounts are kind of pricey, and the can is kind of pricey. But they have a good tone, and perform very well.

[GE-Mini-Gun]

Your also talking (2) Stamps...(1) for Suppressor and (1) for SBR Lower

[Crabcakes]

Your also talking (2) Stamps...(1) for Suppressor and (1) for SBR Lower
Really? I didn't know that! Whatever will I do? /sarcasm

I didn't ask about the stamps ;) Just the upper and suppressor. Thanks!

[Crabcakes]

If you're going to get a good 5.56 suppressor, my personal favorites have been Ops Inc. No frills, no nonsense. The Reflex style can with two point mounting system is solid. The muzzle break mounts are kind of pricey, and the can is kind of pricey. But they have a good tone, and perform very well.
Which model would you recommend? The "5.56MM Carbine Muzzle Brake Suppressor"?

Would that work with a 10.5" upper? I've always heard that the gas block is real close to the muzzle on a barrel that short and there isn't that much room to fit a suppressor. That's my main concern before spending money.

[rjrivero]

The ops inc 16th model with a short barreled upper. The 12th model will be a bit quieter, but the reflex part is longer. I think the 16th is probably the best fit for that application, personally.

[Gordon]

when I do it it will be a pinned serviceable suppressor on the 10.5" upper for one stamp. Another suppressor for a pistol tho.. I have a home in Oregon where I can do it, but will wait till I retire and move there full time to be really free.

[Crabcakes]

No offense but can you guys keep it on topic? Thanks for the info rjrivero I'll definitely look into it. What upper would go well with it though? That's going to be the fun part.

[rjrivero]

Check with www.adcofirearms.com and find out for sure that a 10.5" upper will fit an Ops Inc 16th. I want to say 11.5 is the optimum length for the Ops Relfex type suppressors because of the collar that butts against the front sight post. But I'm not positive on that. The only thing I would worry about in an upper is that the barrel is quality: White oak, daniel Defense, or the like, and that the twist will handle 70gr bullets. SBR's and heavy bullets go hand in hand in my line of thinking.

[LiquidTension]

OPS makes good stuff. I'm a fan of AAC as well. The M4-2000 is a great can and built like a tank. I'll second rjrivero's advice about a separate can for .22. Besides, you can get a top quality .22 can for $500 including the stamp. Uppers from BCM, DD, LMT, Noveske, and PSA (when they have them) should all be good to go.

Since you're going to be using multiple hosts you also need to think about the cost of mounts. If you go with anything that requires a proprietary mount you'll have to buy additional mounts for the other hosts and that can get expensive. Mounts for my AAC can ran me $95 each and I needed two extras in addition to the one that came with it. If your guns are going to be used mainly for hunting and range trips, you might consider going with a simple threaded can. The can will be cheaper and you won't have to pay for any additional mounts.

[lead slinger]

you can save money by sending your barrel to adco to cut and rethread

[SharpsDressedMan]

.300 Whisper, and some kind of .30 suppressor. You are trying to have a SOUND SUPPRESSED weapon, right? Why not choose an obviously superior suppressed cartridge, like the Whisper, or the copycat AAC Blackout? Better than a 9mm or .45 for power and ballistics, and better than a .223 for sound suppression.

[rjrivero]

.300 Whisper, and some kind of .30 suppressor. You are trying to have a SOUND SUPPRESSED weapon, right? Why not choose an obviously superior suppressed cartridge, like the Whisper, or the copycat AAC Blackout? Better than a 9mm or .45 for power and ballistics, and better than a .223 for sound suppression.
I like this idea. Other than the cost of ammo that is.

[Crabcakes]

I only have 3 calibers I stockpile. I would rather not add another one. Besides on the SBR paperwork I put 10.5" 5.56 don't I have to stick with that?

This rifle is just for fun it's nothing serious. As long as we can shoot without hearing protection I think it's good enough.

[loki.fish]

No you don't have to stick with it, but if you ever get rid of the setup you have listed on your paperwork, you need to call and let the ATF know. You can use any other calibers on that SBR receiver. It's recommended you keep it stored however you have it set up on the paperwork.

[rjrivero]

if you ever get rid of the setup you have listed on your paperwork, you need to call and let the ATF know.

Don't you have to notify them in writing?

[Crabcakes]

Glad to have some intelligent replies on here. I tried posting on silencertalk and every reply was "LOLOL@YOU FOR WANTING 5.56 NO 300BLK NO CARE LOLOL!!!1~!" I felt like I was on 4chan being trolled by a bunch of children with nothing better to do than act big on the internet.

I think I will take the advice of getting a 30 caliber can though. Seems it will work fine for 5.56 and leaves my options open if I ever want to add another caliber to my collection (highly unlikely but won't hurt to be prepared).

[rjrivero]

Crabcakes:

Consider what you want to do with this rifle, then build to that specific need. If you're going to go through the hassle of a SBR, then why throw on a "bigger than needed" suppressor? Kind of defeats the purpose. (IMVHO).

I also spend some time on silencertalk. But I find Highroad is just, well, High road.

[SharpsDressedMan]

RJRIVERO: "I like this idea. Other than the cost of ammo that is." .............................................................. Me: FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, reload! :D

[rjrivero]

I like this idea. Other than the cost of ammo that is. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, reload!
LOL. Next thing you know, I'll be like that guy who put 25gr of Tightgroup in his AR loads. ;)

An allusion to THIS thread. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=640537)

[MasterSergeantA]

Don't you have to notify them in writing?
Yes. I always recommend a letter with a copy of the original Form 1 attached. Keep another copy of the letter in your files with the original Form 1.