Does reloading change your "stash" levels?


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January 31, 2012, 08:55 PM
Just finished loading some ammo for storage to replace what I had been dipping into my "stash" for over the past few years.

I'm not (in my opinion) a nut, but I've never felt comfortable not having a bunch of ammo put away "just in case".

But as I've been looking at it, I'm thinking it might not make as much sense now as it did before. If I can load ammo it sort of negates a main reason to store a large quantity - availability. Would still have to keep the equivalent in powder, primers, & projectiles, but why store several thousand rounds of .223 for example?

Just wondering how you guys feel about it and if your "min/max levels" changed after you had reloading capability?

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J_McLeod
January 31, 2012, 09:04 PM
Reloading has actually decreased my stockage levels. I used to keep quite a bit on hand, but until I got my progressive I was shooting more than I reloaded. Now I'm only barely loading more than I shoot, so I'm gradually building up. I like 1k per caliber, but am nowhere near than in 9mm and 40. The worst has been 223. I've expended 4-500 in the last two months, and only loaded 100.

Walkalong
January 31, 2012, 09:36 PM
If I buy or load some rainy day ammo, it doesn't get shot. I am still waiting for that rainy day.

Fortunately, I went through the Klinton shortage, so I was prepared for the one after the last election. I had plenty of components on hand and I did not have to use any of the rainy day ammo.

I did ease up on my shooting a little because I wasn't sure how long the shortage would last. Much longer than the Klinton shortage, that's for sure, but for good reason.

targets from us
January 31, 2012, 09:56 PM
Now We have two stashes one for loaded ammo and one for components ugh.

jmorris
January 31, 2012, 09:59 PM
I don't know about "stash" but "stuff" levels get pretty high.

1SOW
January 31, 2012, 10:03 PM
Reloading did increase my "on hand" ammo stash, but it caused another problem.
I shoot a lot more, so my "on hand" 1K stash I used to be satisfied with isn't near enough.

Like J Mcleod, my 1K rds of 9mm now only lasts 1 month, but I use a turret press; so unless it rains a lot, it's hard to get to 2-3K ahead.

Life is good!

Sport45
January 31, 2012, 11:01 PM
I don't stash reloaded ammo. I'm always afraid I'll find a better powder, seating depth, etc. I'd hate to have to pull a couple thousand rounds to make them better...

Mike 27
January 31, 2012, 11:03 PM
I have about 1500 loaded in varios calibers. My problem is unless the law changed I can't take it to the lower 48 with me. The Canadian border is a bit tight with weapons and ammo. I have 2 years left here in Alaska then back to the lower 48 then I can work up a stash.

ColtPythonElite
January 31, 2012, 11:06 PM
My round count has continually gone up over the years, because I often load more than I shoot. 20 years ago, I likely never had more than 200 reloads sitting around. Right now, I guess I have about 10k with the components to load another 10k....I recently popped of my oldest loads I had on hand. I loaded them in 1998.

Master Blaster
January 31, 2012, 11:13 PM
Yeah I have way more components than I ever had of loaded ammo before I started reloading, as its cheaper to buy the components in large quantities. I tend to load as needed and only keep a few hundred of any caliber I load Loaded.

blarby
January 31, 2012, 11:15 PM
Kinda depends on what circumstances you are storing your "stash" for.

If you needed them to be available in the event of an emergency, reloading would not assist you as greatly as having ready to fire ammo on hand.

If your "stash" is a hedge against market fluctuations and occasional unavailability, then reloading is a great asset- assuming you have the requisite components on hand.

Reloading is also a cost effective means of increasing the size of your stash, should you choose to do so.


FWIW "stash" discussion threads have a very interesting history of being shut down soon after inception due to the discussions surrounding the purposes of "stashing" ammo- other than for the purposes of hedging bets as described above. Just something I wanted to add, so that we can keep a long and productive discussion going.

Personally, once I find a load I'm happy with- it only furthers to increase the loaded ammo amount I keep in reserve.

dbarnhart
January 31, 2012, 11:16 PM
My stash is divided into four categories:

1. About 1k of each caliber assembled and ready to shoot
2. Components to make several thousand rounds. All my brass is clea, sized, and trimmed.
3. A small supply of steel-cased ammo for those occassions when I won't be able to retrive my fired brass.
4. Commercial off the shelf ammo reserved for barter in case of emergency

capreppy
January 31, 2012, 11:37 PM
My stash has definitely increased. I couldn't afford to keep my current levels if I had to buy commercial.

Doc Rizzi
January 31, 2012, 11:44 PM
What decreases my stash levels most is when my adult sons take their friends to the range and they burn up my bullets....lol. They pay for the components but it still takes up my time to replenish the stock. Gotta love your kids.

Samari Jack
January 31, 2012, 11:45 PM
My problem is I enjoy loading ALMOST a much as shooting. Plus it makes ripping off a magazine of 16 round at a moving target not so painful.

Supply is up, but I keep it shot down pretty regularly. I would do more if I had the brass.

Doc Rizzi
January 31, 2012, 11:51 PM
I think I would rather have a larger stash of components on hand more than a couple hundred of each caliber I own. I have also been increasing my stash of black powder components such as molds, lead, percussion caps and flint for the flintlocks. I also have purchased molds for casting the calibers for my calibers as well in the event we run into another one of those "can't buy ammo anywhere" periods.

AK_Maine_iac
February 1, 2012, 12:10 AM
Living here in Alaska i tend to stock up all winter then shoot all summer. I have been slow getting the herd back up to par this winter.
only have rolled up
350- 30.06
300- 35Whelen
800- 308
50- 375H&H
200- 45/70
Now i have to start up on the handgun calibers.

cfullgraf
February 1, 2012, 12:42 AM
My stash of loaded ammunition hasn't changed but my stash of reloading components has.

This is mostly because with the addition of a progressive press. I consume components faster when I reload, but I do not reload as frequently.

I kind of like storing "ammunition" as "components" as my needs may change at any particular time and I can do some shuffling to load what i need.

medalguy
February 1, 2012, 12:55 AM
I'm loading more these days, and shooting more. So the stash has only gradually increased, but I'm really good in terms of components in the event of scarcity or price increases. I started stockpiling components a number of years back, and loaded up on pulldown powder several years ago when prices were still cheap. As soon as I started seeing prices rising again, I bought a bunch more, so in the powder department I'm good for many years. I loaded up on Wolf primers last year when they were cheap again, and I'm stocking up on bullets now. I still have a lot of .30 pulled bullets so .30-06 and 7.62 will be good for plinking for a long time to come.

I do have a nice stock of loaded ammo, both factory and reloads. I feel pretty comfortable with what I have, come politics, prices, or zombies. :neener:

FROGO207
February 1, 2012, 07:43 AM
Winters around here are long and really boring around here so it is the perfect time to reload. I shoot it all up in the summer months anyway. :D I try to reload what I will use in a year each winter. I do keep primers and propellant on hand to reload for several years as a hedge on inflation and it has worked out well so far.:cool:

BossHogg
February 1, 2012, 09:23 AM
I just keep 5 boxes(250) per caliber on hand for my shooting needs. I do stay well stocked on my components and will not let them fall short. Anytime I see a good price on my components I'll buy them and when I get home date them and put in my stash.;)

angus6
February 1, 2012, 10:01 AM
I'm not (in my opinion) a nut, but I've never felt comfortable not having a bunch of ammo put away "just in case".

Before I answer how many ammo cans per caliber before a person reaches "Nut" status ?

Waywatcher
February 1, 2012, 10:37 AM
how many ammo cans per caliber before a person reaches "Nut" status ?

If you have more ammo cans per caliber than you can carry at one time, you might be a nut. (Get out and shoot more often!)

If I ever needed a friend with a gun, I'd rather have someone on my side that started with 1000 rounds and burnt off 900 in practice, than someone who burnt off 100 and stored 900.

Walkalong
February 1, 2012, 12:10 PM
How about if you shoot 900 and stash 900. Is that acceptable? :evil:

Dr_B
February 1, 2012, 12:27 PM
I keep only a few boxes of factory ammo on hand for each gun. The rest is all reloads.

Dnaltrop
February 1, 2012, 12:40 PM
My stash has gone to next to nothing, not that I could keep much of a stash in the first place.

At night finished shells take on a magical life of their own, and dance slilently through the air to whisper in my ear while I sleep.

"Shoooot us... We're so SAAAAAaaaad here in this dark box.... SHOOOOOOOOOT usssssssss......"

codefour
February 1, 2012, 01:15 PM
Thanks to a good friend that introduced me to reloading and all the helpful members here, I have not bought a factory round in two years since I started loading my own.

Now for stashes, I try and keep a full .30 cal ammo can for each caliber that I shoot regularly. I blast through 9mm like it is water, but I load it for 1/4 the cost of WalMart new stuff.

I also like to have a lot of prepped brass on hand. For instance, I have a five gallon bucket of .308 and .223 that is clean, sized, and trimmed waiting to be loaded. The same goes for handgun brass with the exception of .357 and .44 Mag brass. I probably have three gallons worth of those.

And for components, I like to keep at least enough compnonents on hand to load at least a thousand rounds of a particular caliber. In some cases, a few thousand rounds worth of components.

I do rotate the loaded ammo. I do not want the loaded ammo at the bottom of the can to get stale....

Am I "nuts?" Probably, but I shoot so much more since I started handloading. And why not, that is why we do this hobby.

Wildbillz
February 1, 2012, 01:21 PM
Being able to load and having the supply on hand was the only thing that allowed me to be able to shoot during the last big ammo scare. I did have to brake down and buy one box of 380acp when I bought a LCP as I didn't have brass or bullets to load for that one. Other then that, the scare never affected me. If I wanted ammo I went out to the reloading bench and made a box or two. Now I will be needing to do a bit of stocking up in the next year or so here though to replace some of the things I used.

I would like to try to keep enough supplys to reload all the brass I have about 10 times.

I will be hard pressed to buy some of these.

Pull down USGI 147grn FMJ. They are all most as much as buying new comercial ones.

Pull down powder. Price has driven it up to the point that I will most likly buy new stuff and not worry about the age of what I am getting.

Brass, seems all brass has a little gold mixed in it. Or you would think so by the prices of it.

Primers are avalibe and prices are fair for right now. Just need to decide what brand and how many.

Cast lead bullets. I have not be able to find a good local source so I will have to order from the net. Not a bad thing just going to drive the price up a bit.

The hard part is getting all the $$$ togather to pay for all of it.

Reloading is also a great way to build up your ammo stash. Just load it and store it till needed. I keep my eyes open and pickup all the unwanted brass that I can at the range. I use to get a lot of 9mm for nothing. Now more and more guys are picking it up and selling it or reloading it.

Just my .02 on it.
WB

MrOldLude
February 1, 2012, 01:31 PM
I don't intentionally stash anything. I reload until one of my supplies is depleted. Usually, it's brass.

USSR
February 1, 2012, 01:31 PM
Reloading simply changes your stash from loaded rounds to components. Things you can do to lower your cost: First and foremost, cast your own bullets. Aside from that, buy your components in quantity for online retailers such as Powder Valley, Wideners, and Graf & Sons. Regarding buying milsurp bullets, powder, and brass online, you missed the boat; the prices went up substantially in the past 5 years, and there just isn't the savings there that there once was. I would suggest looking for deals on the various forums for once-fired brass, as they can be found there with some searching.

Don

4895
February 1, 2012, 02:40 PM
My stash level has increased since I started reloading. Since I was a small boy, I've almost always had about (300) .22lr ammo, (50) 20 gauge shells, and (100) .30 M-1 carbine ammo.

When I started buying rifles and pistols, my stash would go up to maybe 200 rounds per caliber, less in rifle.

Now that I reload, I tend to keep more brass and bullets than anything else. I'm going to build a magazine for primers and powder, but keep less than I would like. I mostly buy in 1 lb. cans.

I have never had more than 1000 rounds loaded up for a single caliber, but that is a far cry from 300 .22lr shells. Now, as someone mentioned, I try to keep components so that I can make changes as necessary and not have a stash of 200 or 300 rounds of .30-06 that could shoot better with different components. Instead, I keep the brass prepped for loading in my spare time and record in a log book what loads do ok. I have not experienced that MOMENT where you shoot a 1 hole group with any handloads....yet. The ranges are bit of a drive for me and free time isn't so free these days.

James2
February 1, 2012, 03:01 PM
Just wondering how you guys feel about it and if your "min/max levels" changed after you had reloading capability?

Yes, those levels certainly did increase after starting reloading.

Waywatcher
February 1, 2012, 09:24 PM
How about if you shoot 900 and stash 900. Is that acceptable?

In my opinion, not as good as using 1600 for practice and storing 200, etc. :)

mgmorden
February 1, 2012, 09:47 PM
I don't "stash" much ammo. I like to keep at least a box or so of ammo for anything that I have so that if I wanted to go out and shoot it I always can, but other than that I don't stockpile ammo. I do often stockpile components though. That allows me to buy in bulk but I don't tie up my components into loaded rounds until I need them. With my luck I'd load a few thousand 9mm and then get into a revolver phase and have no primers left :).

Hondo 60
February 1, 2012, 10:43 PM
Reloading has definitely increased my stash levels.

I used to only keep 100 or so rounds on hand for each caliber I own ( 7 calibers).
I now have many, many times that for each one.

thump_rrr
February 2, 2012, 06:06 AM
I began reloading at the same time as I began to shoot so reloading hasn't changed my stash levels. It has however enabled me to seek out specials on bulk purchases.
I generally keep 5000 primers of each type in stock.
I also purchase my bullets in lots of 5000 for pistol and 500 for rifle with the exception of .223.

I generally keep 2000 rounds of pistol ammo loaded per caliber just because I hate changing calibers for a few hundred rounds.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
February 2, 2012, 06:16 AM
I have a fair amount of ammo loaded, some manufactured, most hand-rolled. I'm sure others have much more on hand than I, yet others may not have quite as much.

As of the past few years I have been shooting less (like barely ever), so the ammo stays the same. I know what my guns will do and that is the most important thing as far as I'm concerned.

I would like to take some course sometime, some kind of defense course.

tahoe2
February 2, 2012, 11:06 PM
I like to keep about 400 rounds on hand for each of my rifles(9) and 600-1000 for each of my handguns(4) and about 500 for each shotgun(3). I probably have 2000 in components(1000-rifle & 1000-handguns). All my shotgun ammo is store bought. Oh yeah + 2000 of .22's

Hogpauls
February 3, 2012, 12:49 PM
Before I started reloading I had 2000 factory rounds for each caliber. Everytime I'd find a good deal I'd pickup a box or two and put them into an ammo can. Now I only load rounds that I will shoot and I like to keep 1000 (minimum) for each caliber. As far as components I like to have enough to load 5000 for each caliber. I'll still buy factory if and when I see the price is right.

OldTex
February 3, 2012, 12:49 PM
My stash of ammo has increased a little, but my stash of components has grown exponentially. I'm pretty sure I have a lifetime supply of brass in most calibers.

Bush Pilot
February 3, 2012, 02:22 PM
I don't keep huge quantities of loaded ammo around, maybe 2-3,000 for each of my main calibers. I do keep components stacked to the ceiling and a bench full of Dillon presses, it's just as good as having the loaded ammo ammo IMO. That reminds me, I have to go run off 500 rounds of 10mm before tomorrow morning.

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