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Shooter 2.5
February 9, 2004, 01:50 PM
Moby and his Bush Bashers admit trolling websites against Bush.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/162588p-142554c.html

Why am I not surprised.

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Bill Hook
February 9, 2004, 02:23 PM
I think we have a few of our own.

Jonesy9
February 9, 2004, 02:36 PM
"I think we have a few of our own",, damn straight, from both sides too. I'll give the edge to the GOP though. Drudge, newsmax, WND, Freerepublic. I'm not aware of any left leaning sites that have the hit rates these do.

HunterGatherer
February 9, 2004, 02:43 PM
I'm not aware of any left leaning sites that have the hit rates these do.All your internet are belong to us.

Are you surprised that those who take personal initiative and personal responsibility seriously are dominant in the use of the most powerful tool to ever assist in the cultivation and development of personal freedom? You shouldn't be.

Why do collectivists never cease to amaze me? You'd think I would have learned by now. :rolleyes: :banghead:

Destructo6
February 9, 2004, 04:10 PM
"I think we have a few of our own",, damn straight, from both sides too. I'll give the edge to the GOP though. Drudge, newsmax, WND, Freerepublic. I'm not aware of any left leaning sites that have the hit rates these do.
I believe he meant that there are democrat agents coming to this site to sow doubt. If you'd like a finer point on it, look in the mirror.

HunterGatherer
February 9, 2004, 04:20 PM
I believe he meant that there are democrat agents coming to this site to sow doubt. If you'd like a finer point on it, look in the mirror.Now that is funny. Next you will be saying that Standing Wolf is Lenin reincarnated. :rolleyes:

GSB
February 9, 2004, 07:12 PM
I'll give the edge to the GOP though. Drudge, newsmax, WND, Freerepublic.

So, Freerepublic is owned by the GOP? That's probably news to Jim. You have an elusive grasp on the truth. Go ahead, get another thread locked, DU boy. It appears to be what you trolls do best.

Bill Hook
February 9, 2004, 07:41 PM
I believe he meant that there are democrat agents coming to this site to sow doubt.

;)

Moparmike
February 9, 2004, 07:42 PM
And to think I liked Moby and his music. Oh well, at least I ain't payin for it.:p

Standing Wolf
February 9, 2004, 08:15 PM
Next you will be saying that Standing Wolf is Lenin reincarnated.

Gosh ding dang darn it all to heck and back! That was supposed to be a secret!

HunterGatherer
February 9, 2004, 08:34 PM
Psst... comrade, your secret is safe with me.

HABU
February 9, 2004, 09:05 PM
Moby? I have only heard of one other Moby. I wonder if his middle name is Richard.

Andrew Rothman
February 10, 2004, 12:19 AM
Moby and his Bush Bashers admit trolling websites against Bush.

Sigh. Why distort the truth, which is damning enough?

Moby, alone, advocated that others do this. He did not admit to doing it himself.

In fact, isn't saying he did doing exactly what you falsely accuse him of?

I'm not a Kerry fan. I'm not a Bush fan, and I am certainly not a Moby fan, but don't sink to the level of that which you despise.

Punk the prez?

Moby's anti-Bush tricks

http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/582-moby_kerry.JPG
Moby (r.) wants to use gossip to boost John Kerry's campaign.

One of Sen. John Kerry's celebrity supporters is ready to pull out all the stops to get him elected. Republicans are shrieking over a suggestion by rocker Moby that Democrats spread gossip about President Bush on the Internet.

"No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day," Moby tells us. "It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes."

Moby suggests that it's possible to seed doubt among Bush's far-right supporters on the Web.

"You target his natural constituencies," says the Grammy-nominated techno-wizard. "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

Moby didn't claim that he believed the abortion story.

Last month, Bush did propose reforms to immigration policy. But he insisted, "I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship [because it] perpetuates illegal immigration."

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Christine Iverson likened Moby's proposal to "dirty campaign tactics we're already seeing from John Kerry."

"His campaign was willing to use these kinds of voter suppression tactics against members of his own party in Iowa and New Hampshire," Iverson says. "John Kerry is a hypocrite. He pledged to run a clean campaign. Then he uses the lowest form of gutter politics to impugn his opponents, Democratic and Republican. It's unfortunate but this is probably just the beginning of the kind of tactics we're going to be seeing from John Kerry in the months to come."

Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote. We did not use any dirty tactics against any candidate.

"When it comes to dirty tricks the Republic party wrote the book. We've already seen Republican attacks and we haven't even won the nomination yet. The Republican Party is clearly afraid of John Kerry."

I love that the Daily News caption tells us which is Moby and which is the senator. I understand people confuse them often. :D

cracked butt
February 10, 2004, 12:45 AM
Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote. We did not use any dirty tactics against any candidate.

"When it comes to dirty tricks the Republic party wrote the book. We've already seen Republican attacks and we haven't even won the nomination yet. The Republican Party is clearly afraid of John Kerry."
Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote. We did not use any dirty tactics against any candidate.


Dirty tricks, maybe. Better than illegal tricks. I can't recall any Republican campaigners coming to wisconsin and giving cigarettes to bums to get them to fill out absentee ballots, nor can I remember any stories of people voting for a republican 10 times in one election, putting down addresses that don't exist, or stealing other people's identity in order to vote for a republican more than once.:rolleyes:

Bill Hook
February 10, 2004, 12:53 AM
Or getting judges to extend polling hours in heavily democratic areas.

mrapathy2000
February 10, 2004, 01:38 AM
but its for the children. oh wait thats another thread:uhoh:

FPrice
February 10, 2004, 08:13 AM
"Moby suggests that it's possible to seed doubt among Bush's far-right supporters on the Web."

Gee, I thought the Prez was already doing a good job of that with some of his own proposals. And this from someone who generally supports Bush.

Jonesy9
February 10, 2004, 09:12 AM
GSB- no need for personal attacks. if you can't discuss politics rtationally stay off this forum.

"So, Freerepublic is owned by the GOP? That's probably news to Jim. You have an elusive grasp on the truth. Go ahead, get another thread locked, DU boy. It appears to be what you trolls do best."


If you are so familiar with FR you know it's not "owned" by the GOP, nor do I state it is. If you were honest you'd also admit that as much disinformation is spread on FR as DU.

My main point was there are trolls from both sides. As some one aligned with neither, maybe I can see that more clearly than you and am not feeling victimized by leftie trolls, who are clearly in the minority here.

ojibweindian
February 10, 2004, 09:39 AM
I'm no fan of GB, but in listening to the the money stealing, incentive squashing, ambition killing socialists like Kerry and Dean for the past several weeks, I'll probably vote for Shrub just to keep those tools out of the White House.

Moby, BTW, is a dork.

DonP
February 10, 2004, 12:20 PM
Come to Chicago. We know how to run an election right!

The irony of the 2000 election to many of us Chicago types was seeing a guy named Daley standing in front of the press talking, with a dead straight face, about how horrible a "crooked" election was and how un-american it was to "tamper" with votes.

My late Mother literally fell out of her chair laughing at the sight of a Daley, any Daley, claiming an election was "stolen".

Chicago, where the Democratic party is so inspriing to citizens that many continue to vote directly from Holy Sepulchre cemetery.

I wish the Illinois Repubs were nearly as creative as the Daley machine continues to be, as far as dirty tricks and illegal election activity goes. It might finally give us an even playing field.

Latest report, Richie Daley had to fire one of his cousins for selling city trucks to his own mother in law, then leasing them back from her for the city for millions of $$$.

HunterGatherer
February 10, 2004, 02:37 PM
As some one aligned with neitherLMAO

gunsmith
February 10, 2004, 02:56 PM
To spite his face.

I deal with libs all day long everyday.
Even though I disagree with G W on some issues I have to vote for him
because the alternative is terrible.
The Moby's of the world forget how the Dems steal Repub issues
for themselves and flub it up.
Clinton persecuted medical marijuana
Clinton persecuted welfare recipients
Clinton persecuted mentally retarded death row inmates
the "don't ask don't tell" gay millitary policy
hurt more gays lesbians then it helped
Clinton persecuted gays with the "defense of marriage act"

Don't the libs remember the debates with Clinton against Bush??
Clinton agreed with Bush 41 on allmost everything.

:banghead: :cuss:

c_yeager
February 10, 2004, 03:04 PM
I find it amusing that musical artists were so close behind Gore in the first place. There was a time when their albums DIDNT have big black and white "parental advosory" stickers on them. I guess they have short memories.

jimpeel
February 10, 2004, 03:08 PM
And then there's that Laura Bush alien space baby thing ... :evil:

Justin
February 10, 2004, 06:12 PM
Moby is a well-articulated, though no matter how articulate he is, it doesn't change the fact that he's not particularly smart.

Moby is to techno as Metallica is to rock.

I'll take Squarepusher, LTJ Bukem, DJ Shadow, or Thievery Corporation over Moby any day of the week.

Thumper
February 10, 2004, 06:43 PM
jonesy9 said:

As some one aligned with neither

:what:

greyhound
February 10, 2004, 06:47 PM
I am not sure, but isn't Moby British?

If so what is he doing messing around in our elections?

(I could very well be wrong on this, if so ignore me:D )

QuarterBoreGunner
February 10, 2004, 07:00 PM
I am not sure, but isn't Moby British?

Nope; he's a native New Englander... actually a distant relative of Herman Melville- hence the 'Moby' nickname.


Justin- what? No Aphex Twin or Growling Mad Scientists?

greyhound
February 10, 2004, 08:11 PM
Thanks for the correction. I was not sure and am not up on much music today, its all talk radio since 9/11.....

Norm357
February 10, 2004, 09:19 PM
Moby looks like a penis with ears, why would anyone take him seriously?

Bill Hook
February 11, 2004, 12:44 AM
Moby DICK then. :D

c_yeager
February 11, 2004, 08:53 AM
In the interest of being objective i think it should be noted that there are probably WAY more pro-gun trolls out on the boards than their are anti-gun trolls.

Thumper
February 11, 2004, 09:01 AM
I absolutely agree...c_yeager, and nothing wrong with it.. I just think it's important to be careful not to misrepresent yourself as you argue your pro gun position.

There are ultra libs here who masquerade as pro gun just to sow seeds of doubt.

The "no difference between dems and repubs concerning guns" is their favorite lie. Happily, it's easily refuted.

wingnutx
February 12, 2004, 01:10 AM
Moby is hardly the first guy to come up with this.

DU trolls FR, and vice versa. It's an obvious course of action, and some people think it's a lot of fun.

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