Uberti 1862 Colt


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TomADC
February 11, 2012, 12:40 PM
Top is a 1861 Pietta Colt bottom is the Uberti 1862 Colt. Just bought both of these so thought a picture to show size comparison the 60 has a 8" barrel & the 62 has a 5 1/2 barrel. Both are .36 cal and the 62 is a 5 shot.
Looking forward to a range trip soon.

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Prairie Dawg
February 11, 2012, 02:21 PM
Pietta builds theirs on the 1851 frame.
Just the barrel is different.
In fact the Pietta 1862 police model is just an 1861 with a short barrel.
Nothing wrong with this.
One frame & 3 different barrels lets you "be" some one different every week.

Uberti builds theirs on the smaller pocket pistol frame.
They are nice little guns.
Totally different from an 1851/61.

Enjoy them!
--Dawg

Jaymo
February 11, 2012, 03:20 PM
I think an Uberti 1862 pocket navy or police is in my future.

DoubleDeuce 1
February 11, 2012, 05:21 PM
The Uberti Colt 1862 Pocket Police is a beautiful piece. You need small fingers to cap it. Or you could just take the cylinder off the frame to do the loading. I have to do that. It gets to be a bit of a pain, but I think worth the effort. Fun little shooters. :cool:

junkman_01
February 11, 2012, 06:34 PM
Pietta builds theirs on the 1851 frame.
Just the barrel is different.
In fact the Pietta 1862 police model is just an 1861 with a short barrel.
Nothing wrong with this.
One frame & 3 different barrels lets you "be" some one different every week.

Uberti builds theirs on the smaller pocket pistol frame.
They are nice little guns.
Totally different from an 1851/61.

Enjoy them!
--Dawg
You missed the the fact that Pietta does not call theirs a POCKET police. The key word is P-O-C-K-E=T.

Fingers McGee
February 11, 2012, 08:04 PM
TomADC, if you check, I think you'll find that the barrel on the Pietta 1861 Navy is 8", not 7 1/2"

TomADC
February 11, 2012, 08:13 PM
Fingers your right had a senior moment.

Pancho
February 11, 2012, 10:43 PM
Before you take some range time with the 62 do a search of the archives. I have two of them and they are my favorites but they are fussy little guns to shoot. They are very prone to jamming due to cap crap. That being said, the archives will present a lot of fixes so many that I'm using one of the guns as a test mule to try and improve the shooting experience. The latest find was from talking to the guys at Track of the Wolf they are promoting a stainless nipple that is made of improved alloy and is promised to accept CCI#11 caps tightly without pinching. They came in the mail yesterday and as soon as I get off these crutches I'll be installing and trying them. Report to follow.
First part of the report is that the nipples are $2.00 cheaper per nipple than the ampco.

Pancho
February 11, 2012, 10:51 PM
If you do become enamored with the little sweetheart. check online for dellsleatherworks.com. Dell specializes in holsters for the 62. He even offers a shoulder rig for $75 that will be my next purchase. I have two of his military stlyed flap holsters and they are excellent.

Prairie Dawg
February 12, 2012, 12:00 AM
Colt did not call it the "pocket" police either.

From the Colt Collector's Association Website:
"The Colt Model 1862 Police Percussion Revolver was manufactured from 1861 through to circa 1873 in its own serial range from serial number 1 through to approx. 47700. The Police was in 36 caliber with a five shot rebated and half fluted cylinder. It had a round barrel with the creeping style loading lever and came in three barrel lengths of 3, 4, 5 and 6 inches. "

Seems like the Pietta version never existed in the 19th century.
--Dawg

rdstrain49
February 12, 2012, 12:21 AM
The '62 ins't the best shooter I've ever had, but it sure is fun to shoot and easy to carry.

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad281/rdstrain49/IMG_0827.jpg


http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad281/rdstrain49/Leather%20Gear/IMG_0846.jpg

Jaymo
February 12, 2012, 12:46 AM
To me, the '62 is very graceful looking.
Does that make any sense to anyone other than me?

Pancho
February 12, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jaymo, it makes a lot of sense to me. IMHO the 62 Police and the 61 Navy are the best looking guns of the percussion era.

Pancho
February 12, 2012, 09:57 AM
Rdstrain49, My next purchase will be a shoulder rig from Dells leather works.

Dudemeister
February 12, 2012, 02:30 PM
To me, the '62 is very graceful looking.
Does that make any sense to anyone other than me?
Agreed.

I think it's one of the most beautifully designed and well proportioned guns ever made. Simply SEXY !!

I liked the Uberti Pocket Police version so much, I ended up buying a 2nd gen Colt as well. Yes, I know the Colt is technically a Uberti, but it's finished differently (silver plated straps), and it has all the Colt rollmarks.

Haven't shot either of them, but I plan on shooting the Uberti (which I bought used, so it was previously fired), but the Colt is unfired in the box, so it will probably stay that way.

If I ever come across a Pocket Navy at a reasonable price, I'll probably get one of those as well.

TheRodDoc
February 12, 2012, 03:06 PM
I have a Uberti which also had the silver plating on grip straps. 4 1/2" barrel. Grips don't have the red tint on them, which I like better. Uberti's letterihg in place of Colt's. Made in the 70's.

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ZVP
February 16, 2012, 06:45 PM
I also own a Piettia '62 Police and in spite of it's obvious errors, it's one FINE shooting and well balanced piece!
The larger, full sized Navy frame is a joy to hold and fire , the extra size of the full sized Navy frame is no hinderance. The short BBL points effortlessly and the loss of the 2 1/2" of tube does not reduce velocity enough to notice over a standard 7 1/2'BBL.
Last week I did some 25 yard accuracy tests and the Piettia shot a boxed group 2"x 3 1/2" with 2 balls touching in two seperate groups. That's more than acceptable grouping for a service revolver, as it is supposed to portray.
I also have a CVA '62 Police built on the correct frame and yes it is a far easier gun to carry but the small frame feels ackward in my big hands. I never finished the Kit because the nipples won't pass caps around the frame cut-out. Nevertheless, I can see where the "real" Police model was so well liked for all day carry.
Back to the Piettia, I think that they have really made one pretty revolver (fluted cylinder and all) and in respect to handling and firing qualitys, they still have a hit on their hands!
I bought a triple-K "Western" holster from Cabela's and bobbed about 1 inch off the barrel area to fit it to the revolver. The slim Jim shape makes it into a slender carrying pouch styled to fit with the revolver.
ZVP

junkman_01
February 16, 2012, 06:54 PM
Colt did not call it the "pocket" police either.

From the Colt Collector's Association Website:
"The Colt Model 1862 Police Percussion Revolver was manufactured from 1861 through to circa 1873 in its own serial range from serial number 1 through to approx. 47700. The Police was in 36 caliber with a five shot rebated and half fluted cylinder. It had a round barrel with the creeping style loading lever and came in three barrel lengths of 3, 4, 5 and 6 inches. "

Seems like the Pietta version never existed in the 19th century.
--Dawg
Never said the Pietta '62 Police existed in the 19th century. But then, neither did Pietta. We 'moderns' put the Pocket moniker on the original Colt '62 Police, and that's what most folks call them today, so Pietta called theirs a '62 Police so as to avoid confusion. Personally, I think they failed, since most people on this thread seem confused. :rolleyes:

Dudemeister
February 16, 2012, 11:39 PM
As far as I know the '62 Colt Police and the '62 Colt Navy, were specifically made to be "pocket" pistols. They were smaller (20% smaller) versions of the 1860 counterparts, and in order to accommodate the smaller frame, the cylinders only held 5 shots. AS such they were easier to handle, easier to carry and conceal. This is what made them unique and desirable.

The Piettas, first and foremost, got the size wrong; they're full size pistols. Then they mixed a variety of barrel lengths and cylinder types and calibers and offer them under the Sherrif, NY Police and Pony Express names. They are not historically accurate, in any sense of the word.

While I'm sure the Piettas are great shooters, they are something that could have been put together by Tuco in The good the Bad and the Ugly, not something intended to replicate a historic gun.

Pancho
February 17, 2012, 07:58 AM
As an Italian car enthusiast for 40 years I've come to admire and curse their tendency to play everything fast and loose including History.
Their creativity has never been hampered by the truth.

junkman_01
February 17, 2012, 10:29 AM
As far as I know the '62 Colt Police and the '62 Colt Navy, were specifically made to be "pocket" pistols. They were smaller (20% smaller) versions of the 1860 counterparts, and in order to accommodate the smaller frame, the cylinders only held 5 shots. AS such they were easier to handle, easier to carry and conceal. This is what made them unique and desirable.

The Piettas, first and foremost, got the size wrong; they're full size pistols. Then they mixed a variety of barrel lengths and cylinder types and calibers and offer them under the Sheriff, NY Police and Pony Express names. They are not historically accurate, in any sense of the word.

While I'm sure the Piettas are great shooters, they are something that could have been put together by Tuco in The good the Bad and the Ugly, not something intended to replicate a historic gun.

No one here implied that the Pietta 'fantasy' guns were even trying to be historically correct. They are what they are and that is fun guns. :o

Fingers McGee
February 17, 2012, 11:06 AM
Names of the Colt percussion revolvers were a little different back in the day than they are now. From an 1865 colt advertisement here are some now and then name comparisons:

Now - 1849 Pocket Model; Then - New Model Pocket Pistol
Now - 1862 Pocket Navy; Then - New Pocket Pistol - Navy Caliber
Now - 1862 Pocket Police; Then - New model Police Pistol.
Now - 1861 Navy; Then - New model Navy or Belt Pistol
Now - 1860 Army; Then - New model holster pistol

Gaucho Gringo
February 17, 2012, 05:58 PM
I have a '62 pocket police that the barrel has been bobbed to 2 1\2". I bought it that way and makes for a wicked .36 cal hideout gun. It could do some damage at close range especially with a full bore load.

swathdiver
December 30, 2012, 11:51 PM
The '62 ins't the best shooter I've ever had, but it sure is fun to shoot and easy to carry.

http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad281/rdstrain49/IMG_0827.jpg


http://i944.photobucket.com/albums/ad281/rdstrain49/Leather%20Gear/IMG_0846.jpg
Nice holster! Where'd you get it?

72coupe
December 31, 2012, 10:42 AM
Gratuitus 1862 picture.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa170/72coupe/FLOOD015.jpg

Fingers McGee
December 31, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nice holster! Where'd you get it?

Knowing Roger, I'd say he made it himself. He does good work.

swathdiver
December 31, 2012, 10:15 PM
Knowing Roger, I'd say he made it himself. He does good work.
Thanks Fingers McGee! I remember now the excellent holster making tutorial he did on another forum. Don't remember though if he made them for sale.

Happy New Year!

rodwha
December 31, 2012, 10:38 PM
Quite nice indeed!

BHP FAN
December 31, 2012, 11:00 PM
the most beautiful of any of the percussion era revolvers. And I'm a Remington fan.

Shanghai McCoy
January 1, 2013, 10:56 AM
Yep, for looks and handling the Colts are the pretty ones. I think I "need" to get another 51 so I have a pair.:)
But, for solid and shooting I also prefer the Remingtons... YMMV

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