Who still loves their Sig 230/232 ?


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KevininPa
February 12, 2012, 12:12 AM
I'm asking this because:

1. I have one. A P232SL (all stainless model)

2. There are a few for sale on the PAFOA forum.

I can see many reasons to dump these pistols logically. You now have .380 pocket rockets. And there are now 9mm's the same size. And in the case of mine, even lighter in weight.

So why do we keep them?

It's probably easier to state the reasons why I keep mine. One reason is that it's DA/SA. From what I've found (and feel free to correct me in case I missed a firearm) the comparably sized nines are all DAO. And I really like my SA.

Another reason is that the pocket rockets just feel too darn small in my hand. Kinda like those cigarette lighters shaped like pistols.

Last reason, they're pretty darn accurate. Mine is the last semi-auto that I own. I'm back to being a revolver guy after owning more than a few semis. The only other semi-auto I own handgunwise is a Firestorm FS-22. Think about it, same ergos and cheap practice.

I have considered selling or trading mine on more than a few occasions. Then I shoot it and think I must be stupid even considering the idea. At 12 to 15 yards I can make 1.5 to 2 inch groups slow shooting. Banging them off fast I can do 3-4 inch groups. Throwing the firearm quick and doing a fast point shoot deal brings me within 4-6 inches of my target. This is within 10-12 yards. These are with my reloads. 100 grain rainier FMJs over 3.3 grains of Bullseye. The factory recoil spring has been replaced with a Wolf heavier recoil spring. Practice and carry loads are the same. My chrono gives me an average around 975. Went with FMJs for penetration.

It has everything I want in a smaller pistol. Compact. DA/SA. Exposed hammer, which gives me the control I like (Does this make me a control freak?). And I'm good with it. Had this pistol for a long time. Almost thought about trading it off for the alloyed frame version for summer pocket carry. Gotta Smith 637 instead. Glad I did. The all stainless frame really sucks up the snappiness of the .380 blowback system. And since I recently polished all the internals and the ramp, it's really sweet. No stones or anything too abrasive, just Mothers mag polish. Even my diehard 1911 shooting partner has a grudging respect for the way this pistol shoots(and for how I can shoot it, if I can toot my own horn).

What it boils down to is that I still really love this pistol. It shoots better than I can. The gun makes me look good. Heck, I shoot it better than the revolvers that I normally carry. I've actually been carrying it more than my revolvers lately. Largely due to what I know what I can do with it.

So let's hear it people. I know you guys are out there. Sound off about your 230/232s. I can't be the only one. I'll do some pics once I get the new grips I just ordered. Otherwise it doesn't look any different from the factory pics.

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Chicken-Farmer
February 12, 2012, 12:17 AM
I've owned a 232 for about 9 years now and enjoy shooting it. I think of the 232 as a "gentlemans" .380. Not something everyone will own, but more refined than the basic polymer LCP or bodyguard.

Chicken-Farmer

FIVETWOSEVEN
February 12, 2012, 12:23 AM
I think of the 232 as a "gentlemans" .380.

I agree with that, I know two Police Chiefs that carry a P232.

Big_John1961
February 12, 2012, 12:58 AM
I sold my stainless P230 about 13 years ago, and not a day goes by that I don't regret it. I agree that it's a great pistol.

briansmithwins
February 12, 2012, 01:01 AM
The shine wore off the P230 when I picked up the Kahr PM9. Lighter, smaller, less recoil, and more powerfull ammo.

BSW

usp9
February 12, 2012, 07:19 AM
Who still loves their Sig 230/232 ?
Count me in. The gun that was made to fit my hand. My only wish is that it came in .22 caliber as well. What a fun gun that would be. Beautiful as well as functional and reliable. I love my Sigs.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/Pistols/Sig/siggroup003.jpg

Chuck R.
February 12, 2012, 11:06 AM
Iíve owned my 230SL since 2000; Iíve carried it off and on since then whenever a larger pistol wouldnít do. Itís never had a hiccup and since I reload for it ammo isnít an issue. It is a remarkably accurate little pistol.

Back in Nov I bought a Walther PPS and now Iím wondering if I should sell the little SIG. The PPS is about the same size, lighter and in 9mm. So now the SIG sits in the safe.

Chuck

19-3Ben
February 12, 2012, 11:17 AM
I am one of those people who has a love/hate relationship with my P232SL.

Love:
1) It was my first pistol. A gift from my father when I got my CWP.
2) The way it points.
3) craftsmanship.

Hate:
1) That my Kahr K40 is the same size and instead of 8 rounds of .380, i get 7 rounds of .40S&W goodness.
2) Hate DA/SA.
3) Not as relaible as

For Love reason #1, i will never ever sell it. It belonged to my father before me, and it was a gift from him. That's enough for me to keep it forever. That being said, it's a safe/range only gun now. If I'm going to carry, I'd prefer the power of the Kahr in the same size package. Oh, and I do have an LCP for when I still need something smaller.

I do love that Sig though. It's a very nice gun.

coltnj
February 12, 2012, 09:49 PM
I have a sig230 that I was carrying today.
- light and thin, carries comfortably IWB.
- grip fits my hand.
3" < barrel < 4"
- no issue firing ever.

KevininPa
February 13, 2012, 12:21 PM
...is that Police or Military issue 230? I notice the lanyard slot and is that an extra safety? Just did a quick Google search and I didn't see any with that safety. Quite the collection BTW! Nice!

Brazos
February 13, 2012, 12:28 PM
I have a stainless P232 that I got in the mid '90's when I got my CHL. I agree there are way more .380 concealed guns to choose from today that are smaller and lighter. To be honest if I had today's choices in the mid-90's I wouldn't have bought it.

All that being said the 232 is way more "sexy". Looks great, shoots great, feels great. I wish I would have got the blued version as it is lighter. I knocked my 232 out of my CC rotation as it was too heavy. It's still fun to grab it out of the safe on ocassion to carry around town. My only complaints are, though the single action trigger is great, the lock-time is way slow. I also wish the front sight was dovtailed into the slide so I could change sights if I wanted. I need to get some wood grips like in the picture posted above. The SS version looks great with wood grips.

Forgot to add whoever above that suggested Sig needs a .22 version is brilliant. That would be awsome. I could have a lot of fun with a 232 .22.

usp9
February 13, 2012, 04:14 PM
usp9.....

...is that Police or Military issue 230?

That is the story I've heard, that these .32acp, lanyard and safety equiped P230s were produced for police use where a safety is required. I've never seen anything from Sig, (the horse's mouth), concerning these. You see them from time to time on G.B. and other such sites from time to time.

rcmodel
February 13, 2012, 04:29 PM
Who still loves their Sig 230/232 ?Me Me Me!!
One of the last of the German made P232 SL's, and I wouldn't sell it on a bet!

rc

FMF Doc
February 13, 2012, 09:47 PM
Loved mine. Especially how it was fixed barrel and VERY ACCURATE. If bond had been German instead of British, he would have carried a P230!

KevininPa
February 13, 2012, 11:28 PM
"One of the last of the German made P232 SL's"

Mine is made in Germany also. I had heard that the 232 is the only one being made in Germany yet. Or is all production here now?

NOLAEMT
February 13, 2012, 11:44 PM
My wife wont trade her W. German made p230 for anything.

golden
February 14, 2012, 12:25 AM
I have grown very fond of my SIG 232. It is an aluminum framed, blue model with night sites in .380ACP. It shoots very well for me, with the double action to single action transition not being a problem.
On my 30 round qualification drill, it out shoots all my 9m.m. and .40 S&W guns which are larger and heavier.
Also, the excellent grip design practically negates recoil. I have shot 150 rounds without a break and my hand does not feel sore. I cannot do that with any other .380ACP pocket pistol, except the much larger BERETTA model 84.

It is light enough for pocket carry and has 3 more rounds than my old 5 shot .38, plus it is much faster to reload.

I would like to see a button magazine release added. I would even take it in the heel position like the BERETTA Tomcat or Jetfire. I have an old 92S with the heel magazine release and it is much quicker than the heel clip that the SIG has.

Jim

usp9
February 14, 2012, 06:54 AM
...except the much larger BERETTA model 84.
It isn't that much larger, is it? I agree completely on the shooting comfort of these guns, but I'd say the heavier stainless model is the one I take for extended range time. It is even more comfortable than the lighter alloy model to shoot.

I confess to a love affair with both the Sig and Beretta. They have no equal.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/berettaandsig005.jpg

Onmilo
February 14, 2012, 09:37 AM
I am on the lookout for a P230 or P232 in .32 acp because I collect and enjoy shooting .32 acp pistols.

Would one be my first pick as an everyday CCW gun?
No. There are better options available but I would still like to own one for pleasure shooting.

KevininPa
February 14, 2012, 11:54 AM
The all stainless frame definitely takes the snap out of it. That's why I nixed the idea on trading it for an alloy and just purchased an Airweight instead. Always thought that an alloy framed one would be had cheap with the advent of the pocket rockets. Still almost never see them under $400. Not even used. There have been some on the PAFOA forum lately, but they're always the SL models. I can pocket carry mine sometimes as long as the pants are of a sturdier sort. No worse than the steel Taurus snub I have. Now the 637 is my designated pocket carry.

ApacheCoTodd
February 14, 2012, 01:12 PM
I'm more of a what it is (whether good or bad) than what it isn't as in relative to other firearms/calibers kinda guy.

I like the accuracy, reliability, size, weight and availability of ammo.

Since we already have it and are VERY satisfied on all counts - it will never go away.

No snag, no extra knobs and dials to be-fuddle my wife, very safe none the less and compact enough to get her to carry it yet large enough to handle easily.

If, however, we didn't have it and were in the market for a comparable pistol I would certainly be open to alternatives though none of them will sway me to get ride of a currently owned, 100% success story.

usp9
February 14, 2012, 05:43 PM
I am on the lookout for a P230 or P232 in .32 acp because I collect and enjoy shooting .32 acp pistols.

Here's one;
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273100798

Onmilo
February 14, 2012, 06:59 PM
usp9, thank you for the heads up.
I am watching a couple other auctions that have already gone stupid & they have days left!

Grmlin
February 14, 2012, 07:01 PM
I have a P230 my father gave me, can't stand the feel of the plastic grips. Any sugestions?

ApacheCoTodd
February 14, 2012, 07:16 PM
I have a P230 my father gave me, can't stand the feel of the plastic grips. Any sugestions?
The wooden ones on ours in post 21 came from one of the generic gun show vendors. They feel great and have held up well in nearly 10 years of CCW use - meaning they get knocked around a lot.
I pulled them off for a clue inside but - nuffin. I'm fairly certain that I put the originals in the wood grip packaging so I'll check down at the shop.

J2FLAN
February 14, 2012, 07:46 PM
I have carried my 232 for almost 5yrs, I shoot it well, its is reliable, fits my hand, and easy to conceal in a IWB holster. With BB 100gr ammo, it will end any threat I might run into, and it looks good. VERY happy

camper
February 14, 2012, 08:38 PM
Love mine, but the wife has claimed it.

KevininPa
February 15, 2012, 11:39 AM
.......to come in to put on mine:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273338184

This will be the second set of grips I got from him. Reasonable prices and decent workmanship. I did see another pair of woods on there last night but can't seem to find them now. Was going to post the link. MarschallGrips (sp?) also makes some but they really got expensive. And for some reason their 230/232 grips look odd.

Leadbutt
February 15, 2012, 11:42 AM
Love my 232, its ben converted over to DAO, and I like that way, had tried the Khar Pm9, but after it turned out to be crap I went back to the SIG and haven't looked back. SOme day when I can justify for myself a R9 I may switch up

golden
February 24, 2012, 04:09 PM
USP9

Height and length are not the issue concerning the SIG 232 (alloy frame) versus the BERETTA 84. The 84 weighs half a pound more when loaded. That is too much for a pocket carry.

If I were carrying on a belt holster, then the 84 would look much better with a larger magazine capacity.

Jim

ApacheCoTodd
March 1, 2012, 10:04 PM
I have a P230 my father gave me, can't stand the feel of the plastic grips. Any sugestions?
I found the package for the wood grips in response # 21 - they're Hogue "Exotic Hardwood" whatever the hell that is. look nice and feel good too.

usp9
March 2, 2012, 07:38 AM
... or the very nice Nill grips.

The Hogue rubber grips are pretty good too.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/ripley16/Pistols/twosigs001.jpg

Grmlin
March 2, 2012, 11:59 AM
Thanks ApacheCoTodd, usp9 I'll check them out. May end up with two sets.

KevininPa
March 2, 2012, 06:47 PM
........found some P230s for sale on GunBroker at reasonable prices. Here's one auction and the person selling has a few available:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=275673650

Little rough looking, but it wouldn't be the first time I purchased a worn looking firearm and it turned out to be a sweet shooter. Gentleman seems to have quite a few .380s. CZs, Beretta 84s, etc. Wonder where he gets them and just how good they are. I could end up with an aluminum framed one for pocket use after all. ;)

Got my grips, need to find time to take a pic and struggle through the posting process. Not too good at it. :o

KevininPa
March 12, 2012, 12:52 PM
.....take this pic and post it before this thread is gone forever:

http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab186/kevininpa/101_1382.jpg

shadowen
March 12, 2012, 01:26 PM
I spent months looking for the 'right' small framed gun for carry. Didn't like the current generation of pocket guns.

Wanted a PPK but only if I could get a blued one in .32 acp.

Tried to find a CZ-82 (9x18) but no luck there (at least not one that I wanted to pick up).

Finally, last month I ran across the P230/P232 in .380 and was in love. Found a nice example of a P230SL at KTP for a reasonable price with an extra mag and jumped on it.

Very happy so far.

makarovnik
March 13, 2012, 04:54 AM
One of the best pistols ever made, and sexy.

FlyingScot
March 14, 2012, 08:28 PM
It is just fun and beautiful weapon. I do not carry it but will always have it and enjoy shooting, mine is full stainless with Hogue grips. My kids will own it one day...

amoszz
April 28, 2012, 09:19 PM
Just got the grips.

KevininPa
April 28, 2012, 09:41 PM
.......a set of the older mags with the stainless bottomplates, or even just the bottomplates themselves.

stevekozak
April 29, 2012, 01:30 PM
I love mine!! One of my favorite handguns. It is very accurate for it's size, and super reliable. The grips fit my hands very well. It is a pleasure to shoot with Hydrashoks. I have custom holsters made for it.

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