Kel Tec PF9


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dmxx9900
February 17, 2012, 06:53 PM
I had one it was very reliable I liked it alot but I was having a issue with mag release no matter how I put my thumb it would pop out from the recoil.
Which is very bad in a SD situation and is a disqualification in my book.

So I sold it and got a Glock 26 to replace it and a Ruger lcp as a pocket gun only issue I had with the Ruger was it would not feed the second round all the way and it need a tap on the magazine to chamber it fully but the issue subsided when I put more rounds through it and later I gave it a cleaning in the chamber now its fully reliable with any ammo and is very accurate.
I hope keltec fixes the issue because I would buy another one if they fix it.

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bigfatdave
February 17, 2012, 07:23 PM
you just up and sold it?

was it the older plastic magazine release that was identified as getting worn down over time, and was easily replaced with a cheap (or free if you ask nicely) replacement button?

did you do any troubleshooting whatsoever?
did it happen with all magazines?
were the magazines rounded off somehow?
was the release rounded off somehow?
was the mag release spring properly seated?
was the mag release spring in need of replacement?
did you have some silly grip extender added to the mags?

have fun, you have a gun twice as hard to shoot in that LCP (and firing .380 instead of full power 9x19) and another significantly heavier and wider gun in the Glock

RX-178
February 17, 2012, 07:50 PM
I'm sorry, but is there a question being asked here? I'm not trying to imply that everyone's post should be a question, by any means, it's just I'm not sure how to respond to this.

I guess I'll give it a shot anyway.

I've had two PF-9s, the first one eventually developed the same issue the OP is describing. It had the original plastic magazine release, and the magazine catch slot on the metal magazines had cut it down to almost nothing. Replacing it with the metal magazine release fixed the problem. I sold this PF-9 to a friend who was looking for a defensive gun, before I moved to Anchorage.

I eventually purchased a second PF-9 to replace it, and this one has been 100% so far.

dmxx9900
February 17, 2012, 07:51 PM
Bought the pf9 brand new last year it had the new metal mag release and yes I had a grip extender on it but it still should not make a difference because, I fired close to 150 rounds through it and I had no FTE or FTF issues only a mag popping out ever 2nd mag change.

I did trouble shoot, everything was as it was supposed to be nothing unusual at all this is a design flaw for people with bigger hands and I read alot of people having the same issue I had with it.And I hope Keltec comes out either with a new redesign of the mag release or a new gun that does not have this issue I might give the P-11 a try at the range to see if it has the same issue.

Yeah the LCP is harder to shoot but for some reason I am very accurate with it and can handle it fine with no issues with mag popping out.The Glock 26 is wider and heavier but I get 10+1 and not much bigger than the PF9 all I need is a good IWB holster which I am in the process of getting for now I carry the LCP and it is extremely easy to carry all day.

mgmorden
February 17, 2012, 08:49 PM
dmx: If I might offer a tiny suggestion: commas are your friend :).

As to the guns - why would you sell the gun without giving Kel-tec a chance to fix yours? Every company makes a lemon occasionally.

dmxx9900
February 17, 2012, 09:04 PM
I would have to pay shipping and wait a couple days for it to come back and it might be fixed.Not worth it if its a gun I would carry, its so much easier to sell it and buy a new gun the next day and break it in at the range and carry it from there on out if it is fine.

Hondo 60
February 17, 2012, 10:03 PM
I've had two PF-9s, the first one eventually developed the same issue the OP is describing. It had the original plastic magazine release, and the magazine catch slot on the metal magazines had cut it down to almost nothing. Replacing it with the metal magazine release fixed the problem. I sold this PF-9 to a friend who was looking for a defensive gun, before I moved to Anchorage.

I eventually purchased a second PF-9 to replace it, and this one has been 100% so far.

This is very good to hear (read), as I just put a deposit down on one today.
I'll pick it up next Wed - quick trip home to clean & oil, then out to the range :D

psyshack
February 18, 2012, 01:17 PM
There are at least two if not three metal mag release buttons. I have versions one and two here. And some folks still have mag drop issues. While the first poly design was junk. All the metal revisions have been good.

The other issue that comes up is thumbing the release. This is BS. The spring is very stiff be it a plastic or metal mag release.

The real issue is a out of spec grip. Change the grip and it will go away if one of the metal mag release buttons does not fix it.

I will be shooting my PF-9 this weekend. :)

psyshack
February 18, 2012, 01:30 PM
Hondo

Enjoy your new PF-9! When picking the pistol up make sure the firing pin is free and moves freely. There have been some issues with the firing pin bore being off axis. Or axial issues. While it's not uncommon for them to be off center just a tad on the hammer end. They have spit out some where it's off wildly on both ends. That will lead to very light or no strikes.

Also check to make sure the screw is tight. If it comes loose LT Blue will fix it. As for cleaning the firing pin bore after using LT Blue. Use a canned blaster gun cleaner to flush out the bore. All will be well.

Good luck with your new PF-9. I've shot the ever living crap out of mine. And KT will have your back concerning the pistol.

JR47
February 18, 2012, 04:27 PM
If a magazine dropping is enough to sell a gun, after you "looked at it", why would you have kept a gun that wouldn't feed the second round until you pushed the slide closed?

It would seem to me that both problems would have taken about the same amount of effort to troubleshoot, and fix. Both problems should have the same level of trust involving the "fix", as well.

Then again, it was your gun, and your choice. Hope you're happy with the choices.:)

dmxx9900
February 18, 2012, 06:22 PM
If a magazine dropping is enough to sell a gun, after you "looked at it", why would you have kept a gun that wouldn't feed the second round until you pushed the slide closed?

It would seem to me that both problems would have taken about the same amount of effort to troubleshoot, and fix. Both problems should have the same level of trust involving the "fix", as well.

Then again, it was your gun, and your choice. Hope you're happy with the choices.:)
Big difference I shot it till the issue subsided, it was not shot much and needed to be broken in, its 100% reliable now.The PF9 would still have the issue even if I put a thousand rounds through it since, it is a design flaw not a standard break-in procedure.
I might give the PF9 another chance when they fix the issue or when they come out with a completely new design.

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