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zephyr89
February 18, 2012, 10:37 PM
I got an arsenal SGL-21 AK and I got a UTG picatinny scope mount for it. The scope I originally bought turned out to be a cheap piece of crap, but the mount is solid.

I have been browsing the optics market for something that would go well on an AK, lower power magnification for large FOV, generous sweetspot and eyerelief for fast target aquisition and lineup, not too long, or too heavy, as it is supposed to be a highly manuverable rifle. Something like an ACOG, as far as the optics goes, would be excellent, but unfortunately I do not have a blackwater bank account.

Currently the best I have found is the Redfield Revolution 2-7x accu reticle. 10 in, 11oz, not fat, and rapid target aquisition. downside is, it costs $170. I was hoping for something more in the $100 range or cheaper. Aside from the cost, having a variable powered scope means you have to zero it in at a specific magnification, and when you change it, all your indicators are off.

Also, can not seem find generally acclaimed scope rings that don't cost more than $30 for a pair. Also would prefer not to have 6 screws on each ring just to mount the damn scope.

Thanks guys

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303 hunter
February 19, 2012, 07:51 PM
Look at some shotgun scopes. They are shorter length, have longer eye relief, and a lower magnification range. $30 for decent rings is a good price.

zephyr89
February 20, 2012, 08:48 PM
Shotgun scopes have extremely close parallax settings, and pretty tiny FOVs even with low zoom.

After asking about 10 questions of this level and getting close to nil responses on all of them, I wonder if the only thing most people know is that

"No Barrel on the planet is serviceable unless the walls are 3/4 of an inch thick, and have fluting, except when they can't, and can be no longer that 20", so they stay totally rigid, but MUST be free floated, so they can vibrate whichever way they want, and have to be at LEAST 24" long or else the muzzle velocity will be so slow, the trajectory arc will literally have the bullet falling faster than the speed gravity, and HAS to be cleaned with an ammonia based solvent, except for on barrels made out of steel, because that nasty chemical will eat it right through it, oh, and you'd better be putting hollow points through that barrel if you ever even want to DREAM of staying on paper, and they'd better be ball FMJ too, if you want your gun to even FEED them that is."

303 hunter
February 21, 2012, 10:36 PM
I was at Dicks Sporting Goods today. They have a scope you might like. It"s a Nikon 2-7x32. Great glass, shorter length, and good eye relief. You can get one for $120. You can order them online from Wal Mart too. I have one( Prostaff by the way) in 3-9x40; like it very much. I got mine from Natchez, from the refurbished section for $99. Check it out.

PastorAaron
February 22, 2012, 12:44 AM
+1 on the 2x7x32 prostaff. I use one on my arsenal. Perfect for the gun.

zephyr89
February 22, 2012, 05:36 AM
Finally! Advice tastes GREAT! You guys have the BDC on the 2-7 prostaff or just the crosshair model? Are the optics any different? Looks like the BDC one IS a shotgun scope, shorter parallax setting. Does the prostaff have forgiving eye relief and positioning, or does it make you find it's sweet spot to get a good picture? The Revolution apparently has an eye relief that works perfectly within a range that is over an inch long.

http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-prostaff-2-7x32mm-riflescope-matte-w-nikoplex-reticle.html

http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-riflescope-prostaff-2-7x32.html

also, what rings are you guys using?

303 hunter
February 22, 2012, 09:03 PM
Get the BDC; it is a great range estimating reticle. I use one on my AK;a pre-ban Romanian with great results. I also have one on my no. 4 mk1 sporterized Enfield(in 3-9x40) ,that will pull 1" groups. It is surely not a shotgun scope. Low mount Weaver rings from Wal Mart($10) will work fine. It will take some range work to figure out the BDC reticle; but it will be worth the effort!

303 hunter
February 22, 2012, 10:14 PM
I also have an opinion on your comments on shotgun scopes. They are made for a weapon that requires fast sight acquisition at short ranges. they DO have a wide FOV. Even with a 50 yard parallax setting, they are pretty well matched with range of 7.62x39; which is the standard round for most AK's. I have a Nikon shotgun scope on my Russian SKS, that has taken it's share of whitetails. Just my 2 cents worth. Best wishes, and good luck with that Arsenal(a very fine weapon-by the way)!

303 hunter
February 23, 2012, 02:24 PM
Also, check out the Burris Fullfield 2 2-7x35. Great glass, bigger objective, and the ballistic plex reticle. $139 in current Natchez catalog.

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