What to do with some elses reloads


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jeeptim
February 19, 2012, 03:46 AM
Got the deal we only dream about a full size truck load of reloading stuff I wont say how much, but with all this stuff were about 3000 hand loads with cast boolets what do you do with all that?
I sure as heck aint gonna shoot em or pull em.
any ideas?

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A-FIXER
February 19, 2012, 03:50 AM
I would pull the round on random rounds and weigh the charge and if possible identify the powder and if they check out as constant I would give them a go but again measure and check out thoughly.

Wildbillz
February 19, 2012, 04:46 AM
Been there done that. Pull them down and reload the brass. Save the bullets to be reused or melt and recast. Powder went out on the lawn as fertalizer. The primes I have saved but not sure if I want to use them as I truly don't know if there LPM or SLP.

I did over a thousand 44mags and still have a couple of ammo cans full of miss stuff to pull down. I even managed to brake a knentic puller doing it.

WB

jcwit
February 19, 2012, 07:07 AM
Pull them, dump the powder, and reload with a mid-range load. Don't worry whether they are Std. small pistol or mag. small pistol. If they use large pistol primers again to the same as above.

Use them for practice rounds.

777TRUTH
February 19, 2012, 08:11 AM
Pull them, dump the powder, and reload with a mid-range load.

Pretty much what I would do.

kingmt
February 19, 2012, 08:30 AM
Did everything come from one loader? Is it someone you know?

41 Mag
February 19, 2012, 08:35 AM
Personally, I would look for any load data which may have been written on the boxes and then pull a random sampling to determine if they were what they said they were.

I was given some 38 boxes of 45 ACP loaded with 185gr SWC's. The load data was written in pencil on the inside of the carton flaps. I pulled a couple from several boxes and everything looked just like the same listed powder from my own can so I went out to the range with a box of them and a box of my own loads using the same recipe. I personally found no difference what so ever in the two and have been shooting them up at random sessions every since.

This said, if no data is found, you don't know the original loader, and you cannot identify the powder and weights, then definitely pull and recycle the components.

FROGO207
February 19, 2012, 08:51 AM
I have purchased a lot of reloaded ammo in the past some from estate sales and some from vendors at gunshows. All were sold as component only and I was happy with them at the prices I paid. when I got my first lot of 30-06 stuff I invested in a Hornaday Cam Lock puller and 30 cal collet. I consider it money well spent.:) I did take them all down and considered the propellant fertilizer. The other stuff was reused with low-medium power loadings as that is what I use anyway. Everything worked as it was supposed to----both eyes and 10 fingers still.:) This would be your safest route but if there are a lot of rounds and you can pull some random ones and all looks good--are you feeling lucky??:scrutiny: Good for you for your windfall.:D

PlusP
February 19, 2012, 10:04 AM
I won't shoot reloads with an unknown origin ......

Coltdriver
February 19, 2012, 10:54 AM
I had the same situation once, or close to it.

I took the ammo to a commercial reloader and offed it. He went to all of the hassle of pulling the bullets and reloading it.

unknwn
February 19, 2012, 11:50 AM
My brother left me have a thousand or so 9mm that he assembled some years ago for an AR conversion that he had.
When I asked him about the recipe he used, he just shrugged his shoulders and said something along the line of " maybe Bluedot or something like that, I know that they were sorta' HOT though"
Well, being new to reloading, I followed all the dictums, and rather than go out and fire off any of "his" ammo, I did my due diligence and investigated the possibilities.
No.1: Don't trust ANYONE else's reloads
No.2: Don't fire anything that you have reason to suspect the recipe or lack there-of

I checked several different reloading manuals and found NO recipe that would have indicated the use of that powder. The OAL did not coincide with anything that I found possible.
So, I dismantled a handfull and measured the components & studied the powder as well as I could.
When all was said and done, I determined that he used GREENdot powder, and assembled the catridges with a shorter OAL than any current recipe using that powder called for.

Being the "new to reloading" fella that I was, I ended up getting a collet dismantling tool and took apart each round, measured the powder volume and adjusted as needed, and reassembled them with an appropriate OAL.

P.I.T.A. , but, neccessary if I want to follow the basic rules of using reloaded ammunition.
My brother, and maybe others in the wings, might think I was anal about the whole thing, but where safety is involved, What else was I to do?
It was sorta' hard on the fingers/hands/wrists, but good practice using the tools/scale/ect. , so in the big picture, worth the effort I'd think.

Zeke/PA
February 19, 2012, 01:56 PM
Personally, I DO NOT trust any one else's reloads.
If it were me, I would dispose of the reloads into a local farm pond a handful at a time.
Brass?
It's cheap enough, start over.

jeeptim
February 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Well thanx for all the replys headed to the range today and they got bucketts for live and spent cases gonna fill at least two bucketts.
Thanx

Patriot1/3
February 19, 2012, 03:07 PM
Buddy of mine once purchased a lot of ammo such as you speak about. We advised him to pull each bullet and power charge. For SAFETY reasons only. He did NOT take the advise and one load was to lite and sqwebbed a round in the barrel. He fired again and the weapon exploded loosing index finger,along with severe face lacerations. It's your choice.

jcwit
February 19, 2012, 03:12 PM
You're actually gonna dump em?

gamestalker
February 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
I have been given quite a large amount of reloaded ammo on more than one occasion and although I reluctantly tried some out on the first occasion with bad results, one of my Son's decided he was going to try the last couple boat loads we came into. His experience was no better than mine, of which both of our experiences included blown primers, squibs, and just all around really poor and unpredictable performance.

animator
February 19, 2012, 03:35 PM
Hell, if you're gonna dump em, send them my way instead. I'll pay shipping.


I'll find something to do with them... :)

kingmt
February 19, 2012, 08:40 PM
Any unwanted ammo should be sent immediately to me for proper disposal. It is the safest & environmental thing to do.

jack44
February 19, 2012, 08:44 PM
I would take it apart.

Ky Larry
February 19, 2012, 08:57 PM
I would not, under any circumstance, shoot any of it. Life is short enough.

mott
February 19, 2012, 09:31 PM
I couldn't put my guns on the line for cheap ammo.
I question my own loads & pull them sometimes.

mott

Hondo 60
February 19, 2012, 09:59 PM
+1 on posts 4 & 5

pull 'em & dump the powder on the lawn (away from the dog's area).

Scimmia
February 19, 2012, 11:30 PM
Seriously, if you're just gonna dump them, let me know how many flat rate boxes it'll take and I'll pay shipping plus a bit if you'd like. Hell, I'll even send you the boxes if you don't have them. There should be something useful in there, and time isn't a big problem for me right now.

XxBulletBendeRXx
February 19, 2012, 11:38 PM
Sell Them on the internet or wherever you feel comfortable. Disclose the info you have obtained by pulling a few. If you didnt pull a few then disclose that and let someone else do it, pocket some change and buy what you want to reload for yourself. Just be honest with the purchaser and no hard feelings.

Fishslayer
February 20, 2012, 12:38 AM
Well thanx for all the replys headed to the range today and they got bucketts for live and spent cases gonna fill at least two bucketts.
Thanx

What caliber? I'm sure there are plenty of people (like myself) who would gladly pay the shipping for the right stuff. .357 Magnum brass is gold!

What part of The People's Republik ya at?

medalguy
February 20, 2012, 12:59 AM
I'm in the same situation. A friend passed away last year and his wife gave me several thousand rounds of .45 ACP reloads he had made. He was a chemical engineer so I would assume he knew what he was doing when he reloaded all this ammo. I was working on what to do with them, so I pulled 10 rounds out of a box of 50. They were reasonably all the same load, and it looked to be within safe limits, so today I took a couple of boxes out and tried it out. Out of 150 rounds, I had 1 squib and two duds. Pulled the bullets and the powder was unburned, so I assume something was wrong with the primers-- oil or something.

So, I have decided to not try to shoot any more of them. I'm going to try to pull the bullets and reload them with my known safe load. I have about 2,000 rounds, so it will take a while but I have the time and there's no rush. No way I would sell them to anyone else and risk them having an accident.

twohightech
February 20, 2012, 01:03 AM
Box them up and send them to me for testing....... I did have a Kaboom in a glock 19 with some reloads that was gave to me so do be carefull.

XxBulletBendeRXx
February 20, 2012, 01:39 AM
I'm in the same situation. A friend passed away last year and his wife gave me several thousand rounds of .45 ACP reloads he had made. He was a chemical engineer so I would assume he knew what he was doing when he reloaded all this ammo. I was working on what to do with them, so I pulled 10 rounds out of a box of 50. They were reasonably all the same load, and it looked to be within safe limits, so today I took a couple of boxes out and tried it out. Out of 150 rounds, I had 1 squib and two duds. Pulled the bullets and the powder was unburned, so I assume something was wrong with the primers-- oil or something.

So, I have decided to not try to shoot any more of them. I'm going to try to pull the bullets and reload them with my known safe load. I have about 2,000 rounds, so it will take a while but I have the time and there's no rush. No way I would sell them to anyone else and risk them having an accident.
Damn, squibs are no joke. Esspecially if you dont catch it..
ANYWAY. So someone has given you unknown ammo for free with no knowledge of what they are as far as the entire lot goes, But safe to test out/shoot a few and see how it goes.... But selling them and informing the recipient that the contents of the rounds are unknown and please do not shoot them is worse, than just pulling the rounds and reuse the components?
Granted in this situation you knew where the loads came from, an educated man that probably "knew what he was doing." And even pulling a few to be on the safe side, then to ultimately find out they are not. But that did not stop problems with the ammo, so seems irrelevent. HMMmm..? Interesting when you look at it from this point of view. At least to me it is... Reason why I say sell it if you can. THen it would be Over done with Gone. IMO.
Dont get me wrong sir, I am not implying anything in a negative nor positive notion. I am just simply looking at what is really the safest course of action, without having to do a lot of extra work with unknown ammo. Is it to use/ shoot the unknown ammo, or sell it and tell the person you sell it to, to Please ONLY use it for components, ONLY, and they are not recomended to shoot due to the unknown load? I would think the later one would be safer, and much easier, esspecially if you did not want to pull all of them and choose to sell as I would.
Of course one could say rid of them through some means of safe disposal, buy why waste good components when someone wants to buy them? I may just be a cheap skate and too lazy to pull that many rounds... LOL..
This is just a thought and my opinion and hoping to stimulate the topic a little more.

4895
February 20, 2012, 02:05 AM
I wouldn't mess with the headache of pulling that much ammo, really 3k rounds would take me at least 20 hours of my life. You could just take it to a range that rents firearms and shoot it there with their stuff while wearing gloves. Of course, there is the old piece of string and a tree trick. Tie if off, pull the trigger with a string a safe distance away. I guess I would keep it to pull and save the primers, brass, and bullets. Powder is cheap enough,for target rounds, that you would be money ahead. Really depends how much time you have. Maybe you can pawn it off on somebody for $100 or so. That wouldnt be a horrible deal for someone who knew they had to dismantle the ammo.

XxBulletBendeRXx
February 20, 2012, 02:26 AM
LOL.. Imagine shooting 3k rounds with a string? :what: Not that, that is what you meant. I just happened to think of it that way at this moment in time... And well, that momment has passed...:uhoh: and Ill never get it back...

joed
February 20, 2012, 10:33 AM
Damn, squibs are no joke. Esspecially if you dont catch it..

The very reason I got rid of a Dillon 550. The first squib that press gave me I checked everything to make sure the press was working correctly. The second squib I called Dillon asking for advice. On the third squib that press was boxed and sold and a new 650xl with powder check die was ordered. I will not put up with equipment that I can't trust what it produces.

Since then I also no longer use flake powders such as Unique in progressive presses.

Unless I knew the person that loaded the ammo or someone could vouch for them I wouldn't shoot it.

mcofboise
February 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
I once paid through the nose for 300 rounds of .30 Mauser that a local dealer acquired from an estate sale. Brass was unavailable, I was desperate to shoot a Bolo C-96 that had been given to me, and I didn't know at the time about forming brass from .223. Every round was reloaded and had been meticulously documented on a card in each box. I pulled every round and re-reloaded it myself. The guy had done an awesome job, every round was consistent, every primer fired, but there was no way I was going to scatter my German jigsaw puzzle all over the desert because of someone else's powder or bullet anomaly.

I used to disassemble reloads for a local gun shop that ended up with them on trades. I got a collet puller and whatever components I could use out of the deal. The other components went back in the bins at the store. I got time, better spent pulling components than watching TV. Send the stuff to me. We can work this out.

mike

Clark
February 20, 2012, 03:44 PM
I do not shoot other people's reloads.

Someone got hurt shooting one of my wimpy 223 reloads, as the case was stretched by a machine gun before I got the brass.
The guy ran out of ammo while shooting rodents, scrounged around and found some of MY ammo. My Ruger #1 would have protected me from the gas, but the guy has a Rem700, got gas in the eye, and had to go to the doctor. Now he will not use anyone else's reloads OR anyone else's used brass.

I got that brass as part of 7 gallons of 223 brass for $62. It had every brand of brass under the sun.

JohnM
February 20, 2012, 03:57 PM
I've shot reloads by someone else a number of times.
If I know them and know they do it right.
I also know a few guys who's reloads I wouldn't shoot.

XxBulletBendeRXx
February 20, 2012, 04:21 PM
The very reason I got rid of a Dillon 550. The first squib that press gave me I checked everything to make sure the press was working correctly. The second squib I called Dillon asking for advice. On the third squib that press was boxed and sold and a new 650xl with powder check die was ordered. I will not put up with equipment that I can't trust what it produces.

Since then I also no longer use flake powders such as Unique in progressive presses.

Unless I knew the person that loaded the ammo or someone could vouch for them I wouldn't shoot it.
No doubt about it. Speed is nice when building large quantities, however saftey seems to becomes the second priority on the list when getting a progressive to run fast. I load all on a single stage. I can do 150 pistol rounds per hour at a steady pace while triple checking the charges, whether through the final visual check or weighing every 10th round or so... I am using the lee pro auto disk for pistol and hand weigh each rifle load. As far as rifle goes, I can only do about 50-75 per hour but hey, It fun and relaxing, and nice to have ammo that is accurate when even out just blasting away....

RainDodger
February 20, 2012, 04:36 PM
That's why, when I fill an ammo can with reloads, I always put in a label that lists all componenets, and the powder charge. When I croak, it will all go to other shooters that know me well, and trust my work. The added benefit is, when I opent the can next year, I'll know what the load is...

RE-15
February 20, 2012, 10:40 PM
How was the other equipment? Was it in good order, neat and clean? If so I would take a chance, it may be better than your loads. Was the equipment Dillon or Lee products? We all know nothing good was ever loaded on Lee equipment.

kingmt
February 21, 2012, 12:09 AM
" We all know nothing good was ever loaded on Lee equipment."

They don't need any help.

jcwit
February 21, 2012, 03:07 AM
opps

JohnM
February 21, 2012, 09:29 AM
How was the other equipment? Was it in good order, neat and clean? If so I would take a chance, it may be better than your loads. Was the equipment Dillon or Lee products? We all know nothing good was ever loaded on Lee equipment.

What kind of absolute garbage is this? :mad::barf:

kingmt
February 21, 2012, 10:35 AM
I think it was ment as sarcasm. Just needs a jester to point it out.

A Pause for the Coz
February 21, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sell Them on the internet or wherever you feel comfortable. Disclose the info you have obtained by pulling a few. If you didnt pull a few then disclose that and let someone else do it, pocket some change and buy what you want to reload for yourself. Just be honest with the purchaser and no hard feelings.
I would not do this. As soon as you sell them you are the responsible party. it does not matter what you said. It matters what some slime ball Lawyer can convince a Jury of. I would not want my future to depend on who has the better slime ball.

Arkansas Paul
February 21, 2012, 11:51 AM
I won't shoot reloads with an unknown origin ......


Me either. EVER.
There are a very few people that I trust to shoot their handloads. These are people I know personally and have loaded with them and observed their practices and methods. I know they do things the right way. Anyone else, no way.

oneounceload
February 21, 2012, 12:01 PM
What to do with some elses reloads

That would completely depend on whether or not I knew the person who reloaded them and how comfortable I felt that they did a meticulous job. If yes, then I would shoot them, if no, then you get out your kinetic puller and pound away

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