Going to church can cost you in Maine!!!


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Logistics
February 10, 2004, 11:27 PM
Maine resident fined $10,000 for crossing the border illegally to attend church.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040210/od_nm/crime_canada_border_dc

>>>Albert has appealed the fine, but he has not attended a Sunday mass since.


"I feel like I'm living in a jail," he said. <<<


:fire: :fire: :fire: :barf: :barf: :barf:

Don't worry........you ARE living in jail! It's for "the children" you know.

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7.62FullMetalJacket
February 10, 2004, 11:35 PM
I don't see that any of the aliens from the south getting nailed like this! And he is one of ours! He also lives next door to the Customs post! Outrageous. I guess our borders are only open to non-US citizens.

HunterGatherer
February 11, 2004, 05:41 AM
Grrrrrrrr! *** has happened to this country? If they caught him on camera, and they knew where to find him, then they know who he freaking is! And if he isn't Yo Mama Osama, then what is the problem?

Screw going to Mars! What would it cost to send Tom Ridge and Norman "Pinhead" Minneta into space?

:banghead: :cuss: :fire: :cuss:

Double Naught Spy
February 11, 2004, 05:59 AM
Stupid, inflammatory article. It has nothing to do with attending church. Logistics, read a little closer. The fine is for illegal border crossing. The guy just happened to be doing it to attend church.

He feels like he is living in jail? He has the whole rest of the USA he can go to, but because he can't go to Canada, he feels like he is in jail? Apparently he has not been in jail. It is a lot smaller than the 48 contiguous states.

Stand_Watie
February 11, 2004, 06:08 AM
Stupid, inflammatory article. It has nothing to do with attending church...

Yup. There's plenty to debate about whether crossing the Canadian border "illegally" (wink, wink) should receive a 10,000 dollar fine, but the news reporter should be ashamed of such a sensationalistic and only marginally honest headline.

griz
February 11, 2004, 09:16 AM
Aside from the selective enforcement, I find it interesting that border security is critical.... but only during business hours. It sounds like the cameras are for catching reasonable people, not terrorists.:scrutiny:

HankB
February 11, 2004, 09:42 AM
Hmmm . . . how many illegal aliens are hit with $5000 fines for illegally crossing the border? Is this a case of selective enforcement?

And what if he just refused to pay, and demanded a jury trial?

El Tejon
February 11, 2004, 10:12 AM
Wait, I thought we wanted "protect our sacred borders"?:confused:

And they say eye colour has nothing to do with immigration law!:D

HunterGatherer
February 13, 2004, 02:55 AM
Wait, I thought we wanted "protect our sacred borders"?Oh, but we do, we do! But this bs ain't protecting squat. Osama bin Blowedup would do a better job of protecting this country than Tom (insert explitive here) Ridge.

twoblink
February 13, 2004, 06:16 AM
Right, the church goer is the enemy.. I mean he was so sophisticated that he "broke" into the US by driving around a gate...

Nice...

:barf:


Stupidity knows no bounds, although the government would like to test that theory daily..

Double Naught Spy
February 13, 2004, 08:57 AM
No doubt the fine is excessive and amazingly out of character given the issue at hand. Even so, it is still is crime of sorts. What the guy did while out of the country, attending church, isn't exactly salient. It is a character sideline issue used by the press to play on the emotions of readers to make the article sound much more interesting and more of consequence. Since the guy wasn't doing anything illegal out of the country and since he wasn't carrying contraband into the country (that we know of), his activities outside of the actual infraction are not relevant.

Readers are quick to become emotionally involved in such stories and lose objectivity of the salient issues...and that is what the press would like in this case so as to make the story more interesting.

We all complain about this sort of stupid reporting when the press sensationalizes aspects pertaining to guns that we don't feel are relevant, especially when they play on what we perceive as negative emotional ploys.

Either way, it is an emotional ploy, and it dupes people into getting overly involved in the non-salient issues surrounding a story.

Evil_Ed
February 13, 2004, 01:27 PM
How many of you have been to rural Maine? Parts of Maine, especially up around the border have large empty spaces between the outposts of civilization. The people in those townships sometimes don't have any choice but to cross the border for basic services/shopping. When you have a choice of driving an hour or 2 to get to church or the store in the US or driving 10 minutes to the store or church across the border it's no contest. Life has been like that for many many years and to suddenly change it like this especially with a ridiculous fine like they have is another example of ineffective, oppressive government interference.

RobW
February 13, 2004, 04:40 PM
Just another example of criminalizing the easy prey, and let the fingers off the violent carrieer criminals.

The politicos and their accomplices sink deeper and deeper...

What you witness is the fall of an empire, as good as ancient Greece, or Rome. It all starts with totally corrupt "leaders".

nualle
February 13, 2004, 06:04 PM
Gotta admit that to me, this one looks more like revenue generation than security concern. If the concern is about border crossing, they need to staff the border post.

jimpeel
February 13, 2004, 08:27 PM
"Since 9/11, we've enhanced our security and, yes, some of the situations require inconvenience to people, so we have to go along with what the regulations are," said Janet Rapaport, a public affairs officer with the bureau.In fact, they have increased security so much that they leave the crossing completely unguarded every Sunday just like clockwork. Be it not for a terrorist to figure out that complicated schedule.
Two days later, Albert was summoned to the customs office, where an officer told him he had been caught on camera crossing the border illegally. Just think, it would be so nice of a terrorist to sit there rather than putting as much distance as they could between themselves and the crossing in the two days allotted to them by Customs.

jimpeel
February 13, 2004, 08:36 PM
Does anyone here have any idea of how much fun it would be to be made up, and dress up, like Usama Bin Laden and walk across the border crossing on a Sunday mugging at the camera the entire time?

HunterGatherer
February 14, 2004, 12:47 AM
Salient schmalient.

I know folks from Northern Maine. The poor bastards drift in and out of canuck French into English and back again. Half of them can't remember what friggin' side of the border they were born on.

What really is salient is that Tom Ridge et al. coudn't successfully guard a bucket of pork ribs in a room filled with Orthodox Jews.

The man, the numbheads that work for him, the chuckleheads that work with him, need to pool their funds and buy a damned clue.

The car captured on tape was/is easily identified. A 4 year old could figure out that the occupant wasn't Osama bin Blowedup. And yet they find a fine of 10,000 dollars appropriate. Pray tell me, how would fining Muhamed Atta 10,000 have done anything other than reduce the death-cult psycho fund by 10,000?

I guess the good news is that now the death-cult psychos have enough information to know that they have to disable the cameras before crossing. Lest JBT Fife send them an invoice for $10,000.

jimpeel
February 14, 2004, 01:27 AM
I guess the good news is that now the death-cult psychos have enough information to know that they have to disable the cameras before crossing.Or simply walk up the line a mile or so and cross there.

7.62FullMetalJacket
February 14, 2004, 01:41 AM
I think you are missing the point. UBL could walk across the line in full view of the camera. In two days he could be anywhere. I doubt he will return to the Customs post when called.

c_yeager
February 14, 2004, 05:00 AM
You know a lot of hard working honest Americans are losing their jobs to illegal immigrants from CANADA. It sounds like im joking but, im not. I wonder why noone complains about that? I think that border needs to be just as tight as down south.

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