HK Mark 23 Club!


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el Godfather
February 21, 2012, 06:54 AM
Dear THR
I want to start this thread to invite all HK Mark 23 owners to check in and discuss their experiences here, and share photos if possible. I recently purchased my Mk23, and I am really enjoying the weapon. It has become my regular car gun. Accuracy is amazing and reliability is top notch. It is built tough to last abuse and use. For the first time I feel confident having a handgun that I don't worry about cleaning often or malfunctioning due to dirt etc.

It is not for everyone. Especially, not for those who wish to conceal carry it unless you are a lot bigger then average man. By design it was not meant for conceal carry.

So far I have no issues with it. The only thing I am looking for it is a holster. Such holster that keeps it covered while on floor mat of my car.

Looking forward to your comments/experiences.

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Hk Dan
February 21, 2012, 09:00 AM
Love mine, and I'd NEVER put it on the floor mat. It's big, but most internet types would have you believe that it's an M60 with a bayonet and a 203 attached; it's not. It's light and it corners well, in addition to being soft shooting and wonderfully accurate. Mine has outshot Wilson match pistols and bullseye guns, out of the box!

Love it. And I would NOT put it on the floor of my freakin car.
Dan

Oceanbob
February 21, 2012, 09:52 AM
Don' t have one. If I did It wouldn't be a car gun. Nor would I holster it. It would be a collector piece in pristine condition. (with box, papers and all the extras)

The Mk 23 is no longer in production. I like it for collector value and how cool the weapon is; but personally the weapon is too big for carry.

My car gun is a GLOCK 20SF.

My EDC is a GLOCK 29SF.

FIVETWOSEVEN
February 21, 2012, 01:47 PM
It's on my list of guns to get but it's quite a ways from the top. If I got one and liked it enough, it would become my open carry piece.

el Godfather
February 21, 2012, 03:39 PM
HK DAN.... I admire your love for Mk23.
The reason I put it on mat is to show its strength and durability. The gun is for my use and caters to that specific need that no other gun can come close.

fennecfrank
February 21, 2012, 05:17 PM
love mine. I'll try to get some photos done and share them.

I'm using a holster from Raven Concealment System with MD cut. I'll try to get a picture of that as well.

RX-178
February 21, 2012, 05:21 PM
Almost got one. It felt too big.

Got a USP Tactical instead. I still carry it.

FIVETWOSEVEN
February 21, 2012, 11:12 PM
I'm using a holster from Raven Concealment System with MD cut. I'll try to get a picture of that as well.

Do you actually carry that thing on a daily basis?

rjrivero
February 21, 2012, 11:20 PM
I have one. Never shot it. Wonder what it would be worth today......

el Godfather
February 22, 2012, 02:08 AM
best mk23 - usp comparison thread on hkpro
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/37855-hk-mark23-vs-45-tactical-head-head-comparison.html

gun addict
February 22, 2012, 02:12 AM
what's the point of it really? For the price i mean, it's a fun pistol but to me they are no better than a Glock 21 or Springfield xd45 which has a much thinner grip and a 13 round magazine no less.

MachIVshooter
February 22, 2012, 03:26 AM
The gun is for my use and caters to that specific need that no other gun can come close.

Sounds like internal justification for having spent $2,300 on a cult handgun when any number of $500-$700 guns would have worked just fine.

Seriously, I'm glad you like your toy, and it's a fine peice. But the "It's the greatest gun in the whole wide world and nothing else can compare" proclamations of the fanboys make those of us who don't particularly like HK move into the realm of very much disliking them.

I had a USP stainless .45, lusted after one since I was a middle schooler. Well, after a few months of ownership, I came to the realization that, while it was a decent handgun, there are may others that perform just as well, fit the hand better, and cost significantly less.

Oceanbob
February 22, 2012, 10:35 AM
I've noticed that the maritime finish (which is baked on) does CHIP off on the slide. So be careful about throwing the 23 on the floor of your car. :uhoh:

Used ones I've inspected at the Gun Store also have finish and wear issues.

On the other-hand I've gone swimming with my glock and it still looks the same. :D

FIVETWOSEVEN
February 22, 2012, 05:31 PM
On the other-hand I've gone swimming with my glock and it still looks the same.

I'm assuming by your name you were swimming in the Ocean. I wonder how well a SIG P226 Navy or a MK25 would hold up in the same enviroment.

Hk Dan
February 22, 2012, 05:41 PM
Actually when they say it's not in production, they mean "this year". The Mark 23 goes in and out of production every couple of years and when the inventory depletes, they make more.

And Mach IV, that was a complete, if not particularly articulate explanation of your dislike of HK. I am a "fan boy" because I've shot them. AND if you paid $2300 for a MArk 23, you need to have me get you one. I'll save ya $600 or $700 dollars, perhaps as much as a grand.

There is not a new gun out there that will do what it does for $500, period.

gun addict
February 22, 2012, 07:44 PM
Glock 21 or xd45 with threaded barrel

giggitygiggity
February 22, 2012, 07:56 PM
I will not despute that the Mark 23 is a good weapon. However, I think the problem with HK's is that I can get a Glock to match or exceed HK's reliability and durability at a fraction of the cost. Furthermore, most Glocks have greater magazine capacities and less expensive, more readily available parts. Furthermore, they are more streamlined and do not have as many levers or sharp corners as the HK's.

HK's have an edge over Glocks with regards to accuracy, especially the Mark 23. However, for practical shooting purposes and for most people the difference is slight and sometimes not even noticable. I am sure that if I really wanted to, I could close the accuracy gap with modifications and customizations on a Glock and still be well short of the price of a Mark 23.

fennecfrank
February 22, 2012, 08:16 PM
here are some pictures:

in case you're wondering why the Mark 23 has no threaded barrel, here is the California regulation:

The term “assault weapon” also means any firearm that falls under one of the following definitions pursuant to Penal Code section 12276.1:

.....(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip,
or silencer.......

unfortunately, I live in CA and if I have the threaded barrel on the gun, it's deemed as an assault weapon......


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with Raven Concealment System holster, MD cut

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As you can see, the holster from Raven Concealment System is very slim. It's possible to conceal carry the Mark 23 if you wear a sweater to cover it. I don't carry my Mark 23 because I don't have a CCW, unfortunately.

Onmilo
February 22, 2012, 11:16 PM
I bought a USP Elite for the reason fennicfrank stated.
Suppressors aren't legal in Illinois either so I didn't need a threaded barrel.
The Elite was also nine hundred bucks less expensive than the Mk23
http://www.fototime.com/41FB65E6FF0982F/standard.jpg

drunkensobriety
February 23, 2012, 12:38 AM
Do not attempt to adjust the color, I'm only green with Envy, and I hate you all.... bastards. :D

fennecfrank
February 23, 2012, 01:23 AM
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/qwm6o.jpg

PabloJ
February 23, 2012, 01:31 AM
That was my first handgun. I wanted .45auto that I could shoot well with little or no practice. It filled that bill perfectly. Two thumbs up. There were only two frustrations inability to find good belt holster at that time and that it did not come with night sights which for $1600 it should have been equipped with.

el Godfather
February 23, 2012, 05:06 AM
I am not sure what people who don't have Mk23 or never had one for whatever reason, feel the urgue to bash it. I am some what surprised to read a few comments comparing it to a Glock! Not even the same league.

This thread is for those who have/had it not those who don't or can't. Accuracy, trigger, durability not matter how you compare it to Glock, Mk23 comes ahead. I have Glock 21 as well, but you really need to own a MK23 to know what its about.

FIVETWOSEVEN
February 23, 2012, 11:38 AM
IMO you can get a handgun that will do about the same thing for over $1,000 less but that doesn't mean it isn't a good handgun. I still want one.

Winkman822
February 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
I'd love to have me an HK Mk23, but I just can't justify the cost in light of the fact that it's a little too big a gun for me to carry concealed. For me $2,300 for a range gun is a little excessive, but somehow, I had not problem shelling that much out for the Wilson Combat 1911 that I carry daily. :/

tgward17
July 7, 2012, 01:27 AM
Dear HK Dan

I am seriously in the market for an H&K Mark 23. I was wondering if you can get me a great deal on one. Thanks. Please contact me at tyberw505@aol.com and put in the subject H&K Mark 23. Thank you

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 7, 2012, 01:45 AM
I handled one of these at my LGS the other day. Man those things are huge!

PabloJ
July 7, 2012, 01:50 AM
Dear THR
I want to start this thread to invite all HK Mark 23 owners to check in and discuss their experiences here, and share photos if possible. I recently purchased my Mk23, and I am really enjoying the weapon. It has become my regular car gun. Accuracy is amazing and reliability is top notch. It is built tough to last abuse and use. For the first time I feel confident having a handgun that I don't worry about cleaning often or malfunctioning due to dirt etc.

It is not for everyone. Especially, not for those who wish to conceal carry it unless you are a lot bigger then average man. By design it was not meant for conceal carry.

So far I have no issues with it. The only thing I am looking for it is a holster. Such holster that keeps it covered while on floor mat of my car.

Looking forward to your comments/experiences.
I feel warm and fuzzy about it because it was the first handgun I have owned. The laser in light module had IR beam which was kinda kool. Being special dude that I am got it for $500 over government contract price through Quantico Arms. Most of you will pay twice the "Big Daddy price." Other then large size I have nothing bad to say about it. Good luck.

PabloJ
July 7, 2012, 01:55 AM
I handled one of these at my LGS the other day. Man those things are huge!
Huge but light for it's size because only heavy part was it's large slide.

Rexster
July 7, 2012, 02:47 AM
I love the concept of the Mk 23, because I actually believe in the idea of the Offensive Pistol, but though I have large palms, my thumbs and fingers are medium to short in length, so I have never come close to purchasing.

Curare
July 7, 2012, 08:50 AM
A Mk 23 club? Always thought that it would make an excellent impact weapon.

ku4hx
July 7, 2012, 09:18 AM
Got rid of mine at a small profit; just too big and clunky. As to any gun being the best in the world, when I pick up any one of mine and don my Johnny Jumpup Super Detective and part time Hero badge, the gun in my hand becomes the superwhamodyne solution to all my needs.

PabloJ
July 7, 2012, 09:46 AM
Got rid of mine at a small profit; just too big and clunky. As to any gun being the best in the world, when I pick up any one of mine and don my Johnny Jumpup Super Detective and part time Hero badge, the gun in my hand becomes the superwhamodyne solution to all my needs.
These do have a following. I consigned mine at LGS and surprisingly it sold in <2 weeks despite high price. That was precious.

Hk Dan
July 8, 2012, 03:21 PM
1) They aren't $2300. Yeah, they're expensive, but they aren't that much.
2) You WON'T find cheaper handguns that do what the Mark 23 does, period. Not even a USP Tactical, not a GLOCK 21, not a Springfield RO. They just can't match up. Probably a Wilson or a Nighthawk could, but you're talking about $800 more for a gun with half the capacity.
3) This is not to cast aspersions on those guns. I own most of them. They are fine guns and I love them too. But they won'd do what a Mark 23 will.

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 8, 2012, 03:37 PM
2) You WON'T find cheaper handguns that do what the Mark 23 does, period. Not even a USP Tactical, not a GLOCK 21, not a Springfield RO. They just can't match up. Probably a Wilson or a Nighthawk could, but you're talking about $800 more for a gun with half the capacity.

Uh oh, here comes the HK fanboy claims. Okay, what does the MK23 do that the other handguns listed can't? Oh, 9 is half of 13? Am I missing something here?

19-3Ben
July 8, 2012, 03:59 PM
But they won'd do what a Mark 23 will.

Ok, so without the snarky subtext and insinuation of some of the others on this thread, I am actually genuinely asking; What does the Mark 23 do that (for instance) an M&P45 or Glock 21 won't do?

Is it just the better trigger? Is it more durable? More accurate? Something else I'm not thinking of? If so, how and in what way? I've only seen one Mark 23 in the few years since I got into guns. I was impressed by the size, but was really new to guns at the time so I didn't even really know what I was looking at.

I should add this: Hypothetically, if one had an M&P45 or Glock 21, with trigger kits, would they equal a Mark 23 in accuracy and trigger pull for about half the price?

( I realize that accuracy is mostly in the hands of the shooter. At this point, my M&P has more accuracy potential than I can realize, so I would probably not gain anything with a more objectively accurate platform.)

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 8, 2012, 05:24 PM
It is accurate but if that is what I was lookin for in a handgun then I would get a 1911 for the better trigger. For a service handgun I would get a smaller service sized handgun that would be more managable size wise. Apparently the HK45sc does all the MK23 does and more considering the SEALs replaced the MK23 with it.

psyopspec
July 8, 2012, 05:36 PM
Ok, so without the snarky subtext and insinuation of some of the others on this thread, I am actually genuinely asking; What does the Mark 23 do that (for instance) an M&P45 or Glock 21 won't do?

I'm also interested to learn what makes the pistol so head and shoulders above others. Please elaborate.

Also, not to tell you what's what in your club, but I've noticed in similar past threads the originators/contributors tend to have more interesting and beneficial discussion by sharing the good things about the model in question in a way that generates interest. This causes more people to be interested in the gun and possibly join. In contrast, elitism or bragging especially with nothing to back it up, benefits no one; least of all those spouting it.

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 17, 2012, 05:32 PM
I don't think we'll be hearing back guys. It's to bad too, I wanted to know what made it better.

Hk Dan
July 17, 2012, 08:07 PM
Oh calm down Fiver, I don't sign on here every day.

1) 1" at 50 yards accuracy.

2) Set up for a can out of the box.

3) Softest shooting 45 I've ever fired

4) Outstanding capacity with a deadly round.

5) Rugged It is the definition of rugged.

6) Balance and cornering. Fully loaded the balance is perfection and the gun corners like a dream. I can shoot a USPSA stage (in practice( as quicklywith my Mark 23 as I can with my juiced up Limited gun.

7) And for $1600? Forget about it, it's a deal.

FIVETWOSEVEN
July 17, 2012, 09:56 PM
1) 1" at 50 yards accuracy.


Rather have a 1911 for a better trigger. Everywhere I've read, it has 2 inches at 50 yards and you can get handguns for less that have that accuracy. The FNH FiveseveN comes to mind.

2) Set up for a can out of the box.

Many handguns come with threaded barrels factory.

3) Softest shooting 45 I've ever fired

I don't even know how to really define that but I don't see how a 1911 isn't soft shooting.

4) Outstanding capacity with a deadly round.

FNP-45 holds 14 round, Para-Ord. 1911s hold 14, Glock holds 13, the more desirable USP holds the same amount. I can go on.

5) Rugged It is the definition of rugged.

:rolleyes:
Proof?

6) Balance and cornering. Fully loaded the balance is perfection and the gun corners like a dream. I can shoot a USPSA stage (in practice( as quicklywith my Mark 23 as I can with my juiced up Limited gun.

I held one, too clunky for my tastes.

7) And for $1600? Forget about it, it's a deal.

Where do you get that? All I've seen is at least $1,800 for a new one.

Yes it comes with a few good features in one pistol but it's a real limited market. Also, SOCOM dropped the MK23. Don't know if you knew that but they don't issue it anymore and they replaced it.

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