Gun Sales Skyrocketing?


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rugerman07
February 22, 2012, 10:28 PM
What have you been hearing about current gun sales? Are sales up, are they skyrocketing? Are you having any problems in locating a certain gun you want? One thing I do know is I don't see as many SKS's and Moison Nagant's in gun shops and gun shows than I did last year. What do you think? :what:

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mbopp
February 22, 2012, 10:41 PM
I shoot with a guy who works at a gun shop. He says AR's are selling as soon as they come off the truck.

M2 Carbine
February 22, 2012, 10:57 PM
The last several gun shows have been packed.

I took a couple new lady shooters to the show to buy a couple guns. After they picked out what they wanted the salesman told them it would be an hour before they could do the paperwork because the dealer was so busy. The dealer had five people just doing the paperwork.

I could stay busy just teaching new people to shoot.

Blame it on what you want but people think it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Bentley4700
February 22, 2012, 11:02 PM
My LGS is selling out of AR's and handguns. I think it's a combination of an election year, tax refunds and the 2012 "end of the world" BS. Plus, guns are fun.

Statureman
February 22, 2012, 11:36 PM
Good point Bentley4700. I remember the ammo shortage in 09. Tough stuff.

SilentStalker
February 23, 2012, 12:00 AM
All I can say is, I wish I was one of these gun manufacturers or ammo manufacturers or hell even a dealer. I am sure they are making a ton-o-money. I walked into a local store a couple of weeks ago to buy some grips and I bet there was over 120 people there, at least. They would not even help me because they were too busy selling over priced AR's to a bunch of people that have probably never owned or fired a weapon before but they had money so you know. I was like remember the little guys that keep you in business as well LOL. However, the help was terrible anyways as their sales guys had no clue what they were talking about.

cyclopsshooter
February 23, 2012, 12:24 AM
It is so freaking busy we are looking to hire a new employee

writerinmo
February 23, 2012, 12:28 AM
I'm pretty sure they are up, just because I finally got a tax refund that didn't have to go to bills, so I ran out and bought me three new guns!

SilentStalker
February 23, 2012, 12:35 AM
3 new guns LOL? Geez what kind of job do you have to get that kind of a refund LOL? What did you get? Pics?

doc2rn
February 23, 2012, 12:38 AM
Ruger's annual profit margin was up 500%, last yr it was up 300%. Hope that gives ya an idea!

Fishslayer
February 23, 2012, 04:53 PM
My LGS is selling out of AR's and handguns. I think it's a combination of an election year, tax refunds and the 2012 "end of the world" BS. Plus, guns are fun.

Yup. In addition to the ladies getting in on it, I think a lot of the '08 o'bama first gun panic buyers have discovered just that. Guns & shooting are fun.

I'm sure that most of the first timers are happy with the single Glock nine in the sock drawer but also a good percentage have moved on to "accumulating." ;)

Back in the '80s when the Rich Urban Biker (RUB) thing was getting going everybody thought we would soon have a flood of low mile Evo Harleys on the market when the RUBs got bored & moved on to their next toys.
Never happened. :D

Bubbles
February 23, 2012, 06:24 PM
People are spending their tax refunds on guns and ammo. I expect it to slack off a bit over the summer, then increase again coming up to the election.

Ignition Override
February 23, 2012, 11:35 PM
If gasoline reaches about $4.50-$5.00/gal. this summer, either people will drive less, or there will be fewer gun sales.

mgkdrgn
February 23, 2012, 11:37 PM
I don't know about "skyrocketing" ... but so far Feb has been pretty good! :D

PapaG
February 23, 2012, 11:41 PM
Last three months have been the best in a long while. Lots of stuff we can't get including many Glocks and some of the cheaper revolvers.
Kimber Solos still are as scarce as hen's teeth in our area.

16in50calNavalRifle
February 24, 2012, 03:43 AM
Was in one LGS today and asked about business. They said it's been picking up - but also, to confirm what has been said above, it's not all first-time buyers. The expansion of gun ownership that spiked in the last few years seems to be paying off in additional purchases and a lot more recreational shooters. A welcome development foreseen and hoped for by some of the savvy veteran commenters on this site.

Tubby513
February 24, 2012, 01:10 PM
My gun shop has said they can barely keep some of the stuff in stock. They get a shipment in and it's either already spoken for, or sold out instantly. When I bought my M&P 9mm, I had to wait for a few days for it to come in.

Onward Allusion
February 24, 2012, 01:57 PM
Local gun shops have been packed. Ranges have been packed. So, I guess sales are up. However, I've also observed the online used market is saturated with low-priced little-used pieces. Probably from the economic downturn. I have to admit though, deals are not as prevalent as they were in 2010 - 2011.

Ala Dan
February 24, 2012, 02:47 PM
The "evil black rifles" are once again picking up the pace~! Look for prices to
increase on these, in the near future~! :uhoh: ;)

Cosmoline
February 24, 2012, 02:50 PM
Word from the local shops is the sales have been DOWN all of last year. I think the AK market is probably a bit over-saturated at the moment though so I don't know how much you can extrapolate from that.

Black Butte
February 24, 2012, 04:28 PM
The reason guns are flying off the shelves like Wonka Bars is that people are afraid of future restrictions imposed by this anti-Second-Amendment administration. For example, the UN is due to have its Arms Trade Treaty completed this summer, and Obama has made it perfectly clear that he fully supports curtailing Americans' firearm freedoms.

Skyshot
February 24, 2012, 04:32 PM
Obama is one of the best firearms salesman the industry ever had.:evil:

sawdeanz
February 24, 2012, 04:36 PM
This is not good news for me, i'm just trying to get into the sport but only because I've finally come of age after a long wait, not because I'm some paranoid doomsdayer.

StrutStopper
February 24, 2012, 04:40 PM
Obama is one of the best firearms salesman the industry ever had.:evil:
Absolutely. My neighbor owns a LGS. I was speaking with his wife a while back and she said that buisness went crazy just before the last election. Since Mr. O has announced he is confident he will be in office for another 5 years, I'm not surprised that the shop always seems crowded. Myself? I'm planning to buy a 1911 as soon as I get a decent deal on the right gun. No reason other than it's next on my list.

SleazyRider
February 24, 2012, 04:48 PM
But what about sales of traditional hunting rifles? Are they up too?

wtxj
February 24, 2012, 04:50 PM
Any of you people get the
Buds e mail on sales?

Said they broke all time sales record from 2003.

GoingQuiet
February 24, 2012, 04:53 PM
There's a big problem here.

I can't keep a lot of popular items in stock.

What this means: I can't reorder them either. So instead of making X profit on a gun 5 times, I have to make X profit on a gun ONCE.

CoRoMo
February 24, 2012, 05:16 PM
Another thing, I never recall seeing stuff like the Wise Food Storage (http://wisefoodstorage.com/) and MRE companies until the last several years or so. These type companies are booming these days!

People are thinking.

Ryanxia
February 24, 2012, 05:24 PM
Between the economy and the fact that it's election year there has been a considerable rise.

I love it :)

macadore
February 24, 2012, 05:41 PM
Do you think the politicians are noticing this? This sends a stronger message than anything I could think about. No ambiguous polls, no propaganda, just raw undisputed, factual, economic power. Bad day for the gun control crowd.

Birdmang
February 24, 2012, 05:46 PM
I sell at least 1 rock river operator/LMT/AK47 century variant per four hour shift at a large non corporate gun store in the Chicagoland area.

Also 1-2 handguns per 4 hour shift, mostly striker fired semi autos.

A lot of people are purchasing SD marketed shotguns and smaller sized revolvers, smith j frames, taurus .38/357 and LCRs.

Not sure on the ammo sales as its in a different area but they move it quickly.

Certaindeaf
February 24, 2012, 05:49 PM
People need something to do ever since Oprah left the airwaves. Color me purple but what are you going to do?

hogrdr
February 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
around here in east tn gun sales are slow, all the shops are stocked, at least the ones i patron, and the rk shows people are mostly only selling, not buying. you could buy a pick-up load of ar's just from the individuals. can't sell a gun unless you give it away. i couldn't get 650.00 for a commander stainless box and papers at the last show.

B!ngo
February 24, 2012, 09:00 PM
The reason guns are flying off the shelves like Wonka Bars is that people are afraid of future restrictions imposed by this anti-Second-Amendment administration. For example, the UN is due to have its Arms Trade Treaty completed this summer, and Obama has made it perfectly clear that he fully supports curtailing Americans' firearm freedoms.
I don't think so. Just like the fear that went with Obama's election driving gun sales but proving to be pointless, I really don't think this is where fear lies. At least not with the majority of buyers.
But I do think that fear is driving the trend for two reasons. As america's median age increases, more and more people are becoming concerned about defending themselves and their belonging. They have more stuff to defend, are less physically able, and have and spend more time worrying about it.
Also, the recent fear of economic failure, in some cases doomsday scenarios but more frequently just the general angst of a very weak economy, so many unemployed, and the very dark and dire news that is constantly broadcasted has people fearing for themselves and the future.
In both cases, this fear is driving gun sales as well.

B!ngo
February 24, 2012, 09:06 PM
I sell at least 1 rock river operator/LMT/AK47 century variant per four hour shift at a large non corporate gun store in the Chicagoland area.

Also 1-2 handguns per 4 hour shift, mostly striker fired semi autos.

A lot of people are purchasing SD marketed shotguns and smaller sized revolvers, smith j frames, taurus .38/357 and LCRs.

Not sure on the ammo sales as its in a different area but they move it quickly.
This is actually quite helpful. You're probably one of the best qualified to provide an answer regarding the roots of this trend. So just to probe a bit, do you have a sense of what all of these people plan to do with them? You probably have to cut through their rhetoric half the time, but do you think its home defense? For their 'bug out bags' (I'm laughing but I'm not kidding), for their cars? Are they deploying and they want to buy something that isn't being issued? Or do they just want to head to the range and/or knock off a bucket list item?

WALKERs210
February 24, 2012, 10:12 PM
My favorite gun shop almost looks like they are going out of business with empty shelf's and gun racks. Another Pawn/Gun shop has same issue as far as ordering and don't have a clue when they will be restocked. Glad I got all mine now.

Sauer Grapes
February 24, 2012, 10:20 PM
We've had record numbers of people joining our gun club in the last 6 months. Orientation on Sunday usually has 6-8 people thinking about joining. Last 6 months, a typical Sunday will have 20-30 people.
I see a lot of new faces at the pistol range with brand spanking new handguns on a regular basis.

kb58
February 24, 2012, 10:31 PM
Local gun shops have been packed. Ranges have been packed. So, I guess sales are up.
Meh... I recently joined a local private gun range and found out that they have a 10% turnover rate per month. That's pretty high.

kb58
February 24, 2012, 10:34 PM
...and the very dark and dire news that is constantly broadcasted has people fearing for themselves and the future...
We disconnected our cable TV feed 11 years ago and still don't miss the local "crime report" that passes for news. It's all about shock value and contrived drama - love that gloom and doom they do...

Black Butte
February 24, 2012, 11:09 PM
in some cases doomsday scenarios

Well reasoning people recognize that restrictive regulations regarding firearms is much more probable than Armageddon. They buy that AK now because if they wait three years they might not be able to get it or afford it because of new laws and regulations, not because a meteor might slam into the Earth or the government might collapse.

DoubleTapDrew
February 24, 2012, 11:27 PM
Kind of expect this in an election year, especially when people are getting their tax returns. I hope it doesn't get as bad as it was when Obama was elected the first time. If he gets in again, I have a horrible feeling it will be worse, with conservatives fearing the lame duck prez burying the hatchet on gun rights.

TennJed
February 25, 2012, 02:33 AM
I read this thread with mixed emotions.

Bad for my hobby

Good for my rights.

Gun prices going up hurts my already too thin wallet but if guns are more popular, more people on our side.

I would like to say though, that this is a critical time for the more experienced of the "gun crowd" to be helpful to the newbies. I see too many people making fun of and trying to avoid the "mall ninjas and video gamers". With so many new people getting into firearms we need to do what we can to train them correctly.

Someone posted that it is a bad day for the anti gun folks, and I agree. I just hope there is not an increase in bad publicity from people uneducated with guns having accidents (ND). This may be the one thing the antis can han their hat on. Some of you saw that idiot on the TV show "Doomsday Preppers" shoot his finger off. That is the kind of stuff that comes along with a sudden increase in gun ownership.

Try to take a newbie under your wing and teach them right

xfyrfiter
February 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
Some people just can't be educated about guns. Case in point, my son, just went out yesterday and bought a Hi-point 9mm. Pistol did not make it out of the box without breaking, rear sight broke off the mount. Man that is a piece of junk.

BIGGBAY90
February 25, 2012, 01:35 PM
Gun prices going up and so is ammo, but what isn't

Bloggerguy
February 25, 2012, 04:14 PM
129,166 such background checks were performed on Black Friday, Nov. 25. I would say that the sales of guns are up.

http://usagunblog.com/129166-such-background-checks-were-performed-on-black-friday-nov-25/

Also, woman are becoming for comfortable with owning a firearm.

http://usagunblog.com/oklahoma-womens-interest-in-firearms-rising/



The nation is starting to understand....

Just my .02

Zip06
February 25, 2012, 05:11 PM
I don't know what is causing it but something has stimulated the market. Ammo here in the Northwest is dwindling and the demand for firearms is definitely up.

xd9mmsc
February 25, 2012, 10:00 PM
Any of you people get the
Buds e mail on sales?

Said they broke all time sales record from 2003.

Got an email from them stating that they're anticipating yet another run-on-the-market. And to consider buying ahead as shortages are anticipated.

Is it a ploy to promote sales, or something else?

22-rimfire
February 25, 2012, 10:38 PM
If gasoline reaches about $4.50-$5.00/gal. this summer, either people will drive less, or there will be fewer gun sales.

It has already gone over $4.00/gallon in some parts of the country. The price locally went up about $0.10 today. Man. That is a lot! I did something I never do and that is I got home from work after seeing most gas stations up 8-10 cents today, I drove my other vehicle down and filled it up. Need it tomorrow and from the way things are going, the price will be up again in the morning... It's killing me!

The gas price thing is going to drag the entire economy down in a couple months if prices do not start going back down soon. Everything is going to get more expensive by 5-10%. There is tremendous pressure to raise prices now.

I missed a local gun show last weekend. I heard it was quite busy. I wanted to go, but had to work. I would rather make money than spend money which is what I almost always do at shows.

deadasslast2004
February 25, 2012, 10:41 PM
went 3pm on a saturday wall to wall people did my shopping and got the hell out of there quick, could not stand it. could not see touch anything!

CZguy
February 25, 2012, 11:30 PM
I don't pretend to know what's causing the surge, but I'm definitely seeing it at my LGS. Even in the middle of a workday the counter is full. I don't even think about going on a weekend.

Salty1
February 25, 2012, 11:49 PM
We are seeing a surge in AR's and HD shotguns, handguns are remaining the same, customers are asking me what they should get, my response is ammo for what you already have. I truly expect another ammo shortage later in the year and prices will go up and remain there. My sugestion is to have a minimum/maximum inventory once you reach the minimum restock.... Riht now Walmart has Federal 100 pack 9mm for under $20.00... I wiped out their inventory tonight, 6 boxes, that is cheaper than I can buy it wholesale for.....

Bubbles
February 25, 2012, 11:51 PM
In looking over my Title I bound book for the last few months I'd say most of the guns we've transferred through are either concealable pistols or stripped lower AR receivers. On the Title II side, suppressor sales have skyrocketed in the last year.

Poor economy aside, the folks with secure jobs are out there and buying precision high-end rifles. Lead time from our suppliers is 6-12 months for the barrels, stocks, and actions.

JO JO BANG
February 26, 2012, 08:46 AM
Gas, oil,milk and of course guns & ammo

Redlg155
February 26, 2012, 10:56 AM
We had a gun show in Panama City, Fl a couple of weeks ago. Prices were way down on ARs, averaging from 750ish for Olys to 1000 for Armalites. I decided to not purchase a Walnut SA loaded for $1350 (NIB) because I was really looking for a Scout. In fact, at the previous Tallahassee gun show I saw only 2 M1a's and one Cicom M14 type. The Chinese rifle was 700 and he was still having no real buyers.

Folks were buying lots of defensive carry handguns. The Kahr CM series were very popular as well. I'm thinking Kahr shot themselves in the foot over on the PM series but made up for it on the CM series. No one wants to pay $700+ for a handgun when you can get close to the same features for $400 out the door.

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