First range shooting of CZ-75BD, Beretta 92FS & Browning HP


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2ifbyC
February 23, 2012, 04:17 PM
I shot each of the new aforementioned pistols today. Although the pistols functioned reliably and I shot in the black at 50 yards, albeit grouping was poor, I had some difficulty transitioning from one gun to the other. The sight pictures were different as was the heavy trigger pull on each. I only shot SA during these initial test firings.

As an aside, I also brought along my 6 S&W Model 19-3 that I recently put in some lighter springs. I had not shot the 19-3 in over 30 years but I was grouping 1.5 inch groups. The no take up, crisp, light trigger pull and the black sights were definitely a plus for me.

My question to those that shot multiple automatics is to learn of your technique for mastering multiple brands/models, especially those that I mentioned above, e.g., is it best to stay with one gun until you have its idiosyncrasies imbedded in your mind, do you bring multiple guns and make adjustments on the fly, etc. Thanks for any input.

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Pilot
February 23, 2012, 08:15 PM
Well comparing a tuned revolver to stock, military oriented, service side arms is asking for trigger envy.

I shoot a CZ-75B, and Browning Hi Power, both stock, side by side almost every trip to the range. They've had some rounds through them so maybe the triggers have smoothed out. I don't have problems switching, but I do shoot the CZ in SA mode mostly. While the BHP trigger is a little heavy, it is VERY crisp with little over travel. The CZ trigger in SA is not as crisp, but still very good.

You may have more issues going from that revolver to semi-auto then from switching from the BHP, CZ, and Beretta. Put the revolver down for a while and just shoot the semi autos and see what happens. I mean leave the revolver home for a few trips to the range.

csa77
February 24, 2012, 07:30 AM
for me I shot a 1911 as my range gun for years before going to a BHP, I think it hurt my accuracy with the browing. I tend to shoot center but low when using the browning.

Im too used to the light trigger on my 1911. the MKIII bhp that I have has an absurdly heavy trigger(very crisp tho) I swear its near 10lbs. I just got a recoil buffer and 18.5lbs spring for it tho so im gonna see how a softer mainspring lightens up the pull weight. if that doesnt bring it down enough im getting a cylinder&slide trigger/sear/hammer set.

PO2Hammer
February 24, 2012, 12:34 PM
You've never shot any of them before, but you're hitting the black at 50 yards?

BRE346
February 24, 2012, 12:52 PM
I'd feel good to do that at five yards.

jim243
February 24, 2012, 01:21 PM
I shot each of the new aforementioned pistols today.

Any and all new metal parts need to be worn in, including your car engine. Unless dry fired or shot you will notice a difference once they have been broken-in. The three guns you mentioned each have different systems within each. You will need to pick one and get proficient on that one. (sights, recoil spring, trigger)

Each has it's own charteristics, you will need to learn each to make your choice.
Jim

BCRider
February 24, 2012, 07:41 PM
You shot a 1.5" group at 50 yards? If so I'm assuming that it was rested. Seems like an odd way to shoot any handgun which is sort of assumed to be more of a hand operated gun than a rested gun. But if that's what you like then it's your nickel.

So did you shoot the other guns using the hand rest as well? You said you kept them in the black. But how big is the black? I ask these because I know that my revolvers are more inherently accurate than my semi guns. Not by a whole lot but enough to notice easily by the group size. I've only shot a couple of semi autos that were able to match my revolvers for size of group.

Because I enjoy and shoot a wide variety of handguns from revolver to pistol and .22LR to .44Mag as well as single vs double actions I find it's best to concentrate on the basics. I get a nice firm supportive hold and then just start building pressure on the trigger until it moves in its own time and manner while concentrating on holding the sight picture. Having a wide range of triggers to deal with means that I really can't afford to do anything else.

This seems to work for me since when someone hands me a new gun I can generally shoot it passably well. Well enough that I've on occasion embarrased the guy that owns the gun by shooting it better than they can.... :o Not that I'm anything special. My old guy eyes and nerves means I'm just maybe a little better than average at best.

Despite all this I do agree with my buddy's locally as well as the folks online that drag out the old line "beware the man with only one gun. He likely knows how to use it VERY well.". There is no doubt that if you concentrate on only one gun for some weeks and get lots of practice in with it that you'll tune into that one platform and do great things in competition of any sort. But I enjoy my variety FAR too much for that.

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