CapitalOne is Anti-Military and Anti-2nd-Amendment


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CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 12:46 PM
I've been trying to get an image approved for my credit card at CapitalOne for awhile and they keep denying it. I finally got to speak with someone today that said that any firearm in an image will cause it to be denied, not just the "illegal firearm use" as specified in their public rules. Here's the image that I tried to get on my card:

http://www.spambob.net/collinleon/m1911-anniversary-3.jpg

I usually charge about $2K on the card each month. When they told me that they would not approve it, I told them that it was an insult to veterans who had served with the M1911 and as such they could cancel my card immediately.

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pikid89
February 29, 2012, 12:49 PM
good on you...protesting with your wallet is usually a good angle...

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 01:22 PM
If they had not provided the capability to submit your own image on the card, that would be one thing, but to provide the capability and then to deny certain images like this is completely unacceptable... Here's another one that CapitalOne denied for someone else:

http://www.spambob.net/collinleon/m203-being-shot-(640).jpg

Hammerdown77
February 29, 2012, 01:23 PM
Maybe they just don't like Kimbers

:D

Sam Cade
February 29, 2012, 02:06 PM
CapitalOne is Anti-Military and Anti-2nd-Amendment

No, CapitalOne is anti-controversy.

They deny all sorts of images.

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 03:29 PM
No, CapitalOne is anti-controversy.

They deny all sorts of images.
Considering the fact that my card normally just used for online orders and through the customer-swipe terminals at stores / gas stations, it shouldn't generate any controversy no matter what I had on it. As a veteran, I consider it an insult and figure that I should make it public.

NeveraVictimAgain
February 29, 2012, 03:40 PM
I'm glad you told us.

If you canceled the card the good for you!

thunder173
February 29, 2012, 03:40 PM
I canceled my Capital One credit card a long time back. For many reasons. This being but one of several. I will never have another Capital One card in my pocket. Of that you can be very very certain. YMMV

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 03:51 PM
They only gave 1% cash back on the transactions anyway and I have other credit cards that give that much of a rebate, so it really wasn't much of a loss to do it. I just had to go to the trouble of changing all of my automatic payments from going to the CapitalOne card to another card...

Each month I had approximately the following going there:

$400 -- Electricity
$400 -- Health insurance
$50 -- internet
$50 -- satellite tv
$50 -- natural gas
$200 -- water bill for two properties

That's $1150... Plus gasoline, restaurants, air fares, etc... It adds up after awhile...

Bob M.
February 29, 2012, 03:53 PM
I get offers for their card regularly in the mail. I wasn't considering them, but now I know for sure I never will. :)

FLCowboy49
February 29, 2012, 03:54 PM
Anti-Gun, perhaps, but more likely just too afraid to cause a news story...as far as anti-military, i don't see it...no offense intended...

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 03:54 PM
I get offers for their card regularly in the mail. I wasn't considering them, but now I know for sure I never will. :)
You should call them up and tell them why...

Sam Cade
February 29, 2012, 03:55 PM
As a veteran, I consider it an insult and figure that I should make it public.

As a veteran, you should read the fine print before getting huffy.

� Copyrighted or trademarked material not owned by a Capital One partner � if you didn't take the photo or own the image, we cannot accept it. View examples.
� Branded products (except those associated with a Capital One Partner)
� Provocative, lewd, or sexual content � including nude or semi-nude pictures of people of any age
� Celebrities/musicians/public figures/athletes/cartoons, etc. (except for those associated with approved Capital One partner)
� Violence, violent acts or any type of death imagery (e.g. images of skulls)
� Socially unacceptable or discriminatory behavior or signs (e.g. gangs, hatred, drug/alcohol abuse, graffiti)
� Profanity or other obscene behavior or gestures
� Images of money from any country (including the United States) where money is the central focus of the photo
� Images of flags. (Our gallery contains flag related imagery � please review those images if you are interested in having a flag on your card.)
� Controversial subject matter such as political or religious statements and/or images
� Phone numbers (e.g. 800 or 900 #'s) and URL addresses (e.g. www.capitalone.com)
� Competitive marks/names (e.g. Discover, American Express, etc.)
� Any references to the Olympic Games or events :p
� Any photo that might result in non-acceptance or other problems at the point of sale
� Any printing or process that interferes with the required security features of the card

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 03:57 PM
Anti-Gun, perhaps, but more likely just too afraid to cause a news story...as far as anti-military, i don't see it...no offense intended...
OK, if I owned an original M1911 or -A1, it would have been a bit more obvious that they were anti-military, but the Kimber was the closest that I had and I figured that after a bit of photo manipulation, it wouldn't be too noticeable especially at the size that it was going to be printed... The denying of the M1911 along with the text of "Duty, Honor, Country" is what I consider anti-military...

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 03:58 PM
As a veteran, you should read the fine print before getting huffy.
So, "Duty, Honor, Country" is considered "controversial subject matter"?

Only for the leftists out there...

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 04:02 PM
They also disapproved this one:

http://www.spambob.net/collinleon/phalanx-2.jpg

leadcounsel
February 29, 2012, 04:04 PM
I absolutely hate Captial One. They ar a terrible company to work with. But I have to admit that I have their card - it's my only credit card. I only keep it due to the low locked in interest rate at 6%.

I charge very little per month and I immediately pay it off, so the interest rate is largely irrelevant. While I realize the interest rate is irrelevant I intend on getting rid of it and getting a card through a different carrier.

I DO NOT LIKE CAPITAL ONE!

Sam Cade
February 29, 2012, 04:05 PM
So, "Duty, Honor, Country" is considered "controversial subject matter"?

Only for the leftists out there...

It's MacArthur right? It's political speech, so verboten.



Only for the leftists out there...

Eh?
The military rhetoric of "Duty, Honor, Country" is ancient,universal and predates any fallacious left/right political divides.

Sam Cade
February 29, 2012, 04:08 PM
They also disapproved this one

..and this

http://www.intermonet.com/prints/m1768003.jpg

FLCowboy49
February 29, 2012, 04:09 PM
For the untrained person, that CIWS is just another scary big gun...
-I know I seem to be playing devils advocate here, but I STRONGLY dislike pulling the "ANTI-MILITARY" card unless the evidence is clear...

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 05:44 PM
It's MacArthur right? It's political speech, so verboten.




Eh?
The military rhetoric of "Duty, Honor, Country" is ancient,universal and predates any fallacious left/right political divides.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Duty,_honor,_country

It was a great speech for accepting an award at West Point.

Was he the first to use the phrase?

Nope...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/U.S._Military_Academy_COA.png

Was West Point the first?

Johannes_Paulsen
February 29, 2012, 05:48 PM
I'm glad you stopped doing business with them. I agree - you should vote with your wallet.

I usually charge about $2K on the card each month. When they told me that they would not approve it, I told them that it was an insult to veterans who had served with the M1911 and as such they could cancel my card immediately.

Just an observation...when I worked for a major credit card-issuing bank in Delaware in the mid-1990s, the general rule was that it took someone to charge in excess of $36,000/year for the account to be profitable -- unless, of course, they were carrying a balance. (And that was in 1996 dollars.)

Hammerdown77
February 29, 2012, 06:34 PM
OK, if I owned an original M1911 or -A1, it would have been a bit more obvious that they were anti-military, but the Kimber was the closest that I had and I figured that after a bit of photo manipulation, it wouldn't be too noticeable especially at the size that it was going to be printed... The denying of the M1911 along with the text of "Duty, Honor, Country" is what I consider anti-military...
You expect some minimum wage worker at CapitalOne to know anything about a M1911A1 and its history???

Anti-gun maybe, but anti-military, based on the picture you submitted, is a FAR stretch of the imagination.

Now if you'd submitted a Marine Corps or Army Rangers emblem, and they rejected it, maybe...

hso
February 29, 2012, 06:44 PM
That's a stretch to get to the conclusion that they're anti anything.

Sam Cade
February 29, 2012, 06:54 PM
The West Point motto is off limits because it is trademarked.

http://tarr.uspto.gov/tarr?regser=serial&entry=77613384&action=Request+Status

On Thursday, November 13, 2008, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for DUTY HONOR COUNTRY by DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY, Arlington, VA 222031837. The USPTO has given the DUTY HONOR COUNTRY trademark serial number of 77613384. The current federal status of this trademark filing is REGISTERED. The correspondent listed for DUTY HONOR COUNTRY is LAURA HELLER of OFFICE OF THE STAFF JUDGE ADVOCATE, UNIT, 646 SWIFT ROAD, ATTN: MAJA-AL WEST POINT, NY 10996 . The DUTY HONOR COUNTRY trademark is filed in the category of Non-Metallic Building Material Products , Fabrics , Lace, Ribbons, Embroidery and Fancy Goods , Education and Entertainment Services .

beatledog7
February 29, 2012, 07:33 PM
I suppose a cute picture of a cuddly kitten would be ok?

No thanks. I'll take mine plain (but not from CapOne). Same as the bumpers of my vehicles.

archigos
February 29, 2012, 08:23 PM
I stopped using my card as a result of this policy about a year ago. Unfortunately, my only other card is a Discover, so I occasionally wind up using it anyway.

CollinLeon
February 29, 2012, 08:31 PM
I stopped using my card as a result of this policy about a year ago. Unfortunately, my only other card is a Discover, so I occasionally wind up using it anyway.
I canceled my Discover card the other day. Turns out that I wasn't using it enough, so they reduced my credit limit to only $500 (from around $7K, IIRC). I had gotten to where I only used it at Sam's Club anyway, but when Sam's started taking MasterCard, I didn't need it anymore. I decided that they really didn't want my business, so I just canceled it. I had a couple of automated payments going to it and some cashback points which I had to use up on an Amazon purchase first though. So, between CapitalOne and Discover, that's 2 less pieces of plastic in my wallet... Need to get rid of some more so that I can actually *close* the wallet though... :)

Sergeant Sabre
February 29, 2012, 08:38 PM
No, CapitalOne is anti-controversy.

They deny all sorts of images.

This is the correct answer. They don't want "CapitalOne" and their logo printed right next to the picture of a pistol, thereby associating the two. They have a vested interest in how the logo representing their company is displayed.

If you submitted a picture of a scantily-clad woman and it was denied, would you post on the internet that they are anti-hetrosexuality? Contrary to what is a popular theme here, not everything revolves around whether a person, movie, company, country, or fictional character is pro-gun or anti-gun.

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