Remington golden bullet explosion


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Trip1976
March 2, 2012, 09:05 PM
I was shooting my Buckmark today, used cci standard, federal bulk no problem. Tried remington golden 550 6 th round exploded when I pulled the trigger. Destroyed rear sight base, guide rod, firing pin, block that holds firing pin, and powder burnt the heck out of my support hand. Recoil was stout for a .22. Picked up spent brass 4 ok, fith was cracked and head was bulged, the one that exploded left nothing but head in my mag well. Looked like case head separation on a centerfire case. Any one everbhavethis happen? I have had failure to fires and under powered .22, but never over pressure.

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Countryboy7
March 2, 2012, 09:26 PM
I have found a couple golden bullets that were dented so bad in the case that they probably wouldn't even chamber, heck I know they wouldn't chamber

230RN
March 2, 2012, 09:32 PM
Squib load stuck in the barrel on the 4th shot? Stuck again on the 5th, and 6th was too much?

Remington ammo recalls:

http://www.dogpile.com/search/web?fcoid=417&fcop=topnav&fpid=27&q=remington+ammunition+recall&ql=

Take clear closeups of gun damage and the remains of the cartridges and the ammo boxes with the lot numbers and send it all to Remington by return receipt mail.

Or call the 800 number. If this is a new problem, they'll want to know about it yesterday.

Corporate Headquarters

Remington Arms Company, LLC
870 Remington Drive
P.O. Box 700
Madison, NC 27025-0700
TEL: 1-800-243-9700
Fax: 1-336-548-7801

This reinforces the dictum that when anything unusual happens --report, recoil, failure to eject/extract, smells funny, whatever --stop shooting and investigate throughly.

Thoroughly.

Did I say thoroughly?

Terry, 230RN

T Bran
March 2, 2012, 09:38 PM
Yep saw some pics of Rem bulk pack bullets on another forum that were bulged so badly that there wasnt even a rim left. Others just disintegrated in the chamber. They seem to have left the quality out of QC and many people wont use them.
Please post the lot number on the box if you can.
Sorry to hear about your pistol glad you werent hurt badly injured.
T

ghfljf
March 2, 2012, 09:48 PM
I've had it happen in my Glock 17 with a Ceiner 22 conversion unit. The back of the case blew off leaving the rest in the barrel. Mentioned it at the indoor range and they said they have been seeing it lately.

Trip1976
March 3, 2012, 06:50 AM
No bullet stuck in barrel, no squibs. Contacted Remington they are with me and seemed to be quick to take blame. I have them the lot number, they said it was made last August. Also said that they were changing powder and cases on that run. They said they would also pay for all repairs.

Trip1976
March 3, 2012, 06:52 AM
No bullet stuck in barrel, no squibs. Contacted Remington they are with me and seemed to be quick to take blame. I have them the lot number, they said it was made last August. Also said that they were changing powder and cases on that run. They said they would also pay for all repairs. Will post lot number when I get home at work now.

newbuckeye
March 3, 2012, 07:12 AM
Can you post some pics too??

rust collector
March 3, 2012, 10:26 PM
Remington golden bullet 22 once was on par with super X and Federal, but lately the bulk packed variety hasn't been very reliable. It was likely a bulged case that wouldn't fully chamber, but the disconnector should have preventing firing while out of battery.

Sorry to hear about the gun, but glad no one was hurt and impressed with Remington stepping up.

exavid
March 3, 2012, 10:46 PM
One of the fellows at my gun club had a similar experience. He was firing Remington ammo in his Buckmark during a Bullseye session when the rim ruptured on the cartridge. It blew off the extractor. Don't know what caused it the report didn't sound any different than his previous shots. There were about 12 of us on the line at the time with myself and about five others firing Buckmarks. I don't know if it was a problem with the ammo or the gun but we've fired thousands of rounds through Buckmarks there with no problem before or since this one.

Dnaltrop
March 3, 2012, 10:48 PM
Glad to hear that they're taking care of you Trip.

And welcome to THR! hope you find the place informative and less drama-filled than many other corners of the net.

50 cal
March 3, 2012, 11:01 PM
Maybe they should start calling them "Remington Golden Explosion".

NG VI
March 3, 2012, 11:11 PM
Whatever happens with QC, no manufactured good can be completely controlled, but they're showing best practices possible as far as taking care of the resulting situation.

Salmoneye
March 4, 2012, 07:43 AM
Picked up spent brass 4 ok, fith was cracked and head was bulged,

No bullet stuck in barrel, no squibs.

Sure sounds to me like the fifth round was stuck in your barrel, and you fired another...

Yo Mama
March 4, 2012, 11:21 AM
I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with a "repair". Once a gun blows apart, I'd rather a new gun?

intercooler
March 4, 2012, 11:24 AM
Shame you didn't search here. Please do now as I started a thread a while back about the same thing. More chimed in and replied but the short story is I got a refund and my 22A wasn't damaged. They did say my 22A fired out of battery in the letter but it is total BS. Never had or have since an issue with other ammo.

Run fast from this stuff! They got a problem and need to fess up.

351 WINCHESTER
March 4, 2012, 01:19 PM
Anybody know of the lot numbers? Get the word out.

TenDriver
March 4, 2012, 02:02 PM
Whatever happens with QC, no manufactured good can be completely controlled, but they're showing best practices possible as far as taking care of the resulting situation.
Excellent corrective action, but where's the preventative action?

intercooler
March 4, 2012, 02:15 PM
My lot was posted. Their should be a posted bulletin issued.


Just stay away and use federal.

raveneap
March 4, 2012, 02:19 PM
My Ruger Mark III had numerous FTF with Remington Golden. As it was a brand new gun, I called Ruger and was told that the Mark III didn't like Remington Golden. In fact, they told me what the ammo was that was causing the problem BEFORE I told them. Worked ok in my .22 revolvers but Federal Bulk from WallyWorld has never flinched in the Ruger so pretty much use that in all of my .22s now.

Carl N. Brown
March 4, 2012, 02:29 PM
As with rust collector in post #9, I remember Remington Golden used to be a great .22 ammunition better'n Winchester SuperX in my youth (long ago). I don't know what happened to them, but I suspect either Remington is using worn-out equipment past the "replace by date" or the management has followed the usual modern "efficency" model of firing the expensive employees who knew what they were doing and hiring minimum wage slugs in their place.

BIGGBAY90
March 4, 2012, 02:44 PM
sad but good thing it was just a .22cal which still should not happen

skoro
March 4, 2012, 06:53 PM
I used to buy RGB for my Remington 552, on the assumption that Remington ammo would be best for a Remington firearm.

Boy, was that a mistake.


I experienced every kind of ammo related failure there is with that junk. And this was a dozen years ago. Other ammo worked fine. I'll never buy Remington 22LR ammo again. As you all have witnessed with this thread, it's still junk. :rolleyes:

Trip1976
March 5, 2012, 05:47 PM
Sorry it has taken so long to get back to the post, I have been working 16 hr. days and it doesn't leave a lot of time to do much but get a few hours of sleep. THE LOT # IS AS FOLLOWS M22LC1237. I did not write in all caps. because I am yelling, ha ha ha. Thanks for all of your kind posts. I am pretty sure that no bullet lodged in barrel I was shooting at about 10 yards and was watching bullet strikes on target. I will try to post some pics of my poor gun, I am new to this and will have to fiddle with it a bit. Thanks again.

Trip1976
March 5, 2012, 06:13 PM
Here are some pics I hope that this works.

Trip1976
March 5, 2012, 06:15 PM
OK the first one is of the block that holds firing pin and recoil guide rod, the second is self explanatory, the third is the end of the block & the fourth is of my black thumb and the offending ammo.

intercooler
March 5, 2012, 06:32 PM
I really hope they pull this line and figure it out. How much damage does it take? I spread the word where I can.

newbuckeye
March 5, 2012, 11:19 PM
I still find it amazing that such a small round as a 22lr can do that to a gun! Glad you still have all yer digits!

Fishslayer
March 6, 2012, 01:27 AM
I still find it amazing that such a small round as a 22lr can do that to a gun! Glad you still have all yer digits!


I was thinking the same thing.:eek:

Here's another thread. Apparently it's still out there.:uhoh:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1049946

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