Ruger Blackhawk Convertible .45AP/.45LC


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guitarguy314
March 4, 2012, 03:32 AM
I have been thinking about buying the above revolver. But I had a few questions, and hope someone here may be able to help me.

1. I have read many 5-star reviews of this gun, but I have also heard a few bad things. Does anyone own one? Have you ever had problems with it?

-----A lot of what I have heard as far as problems go usually had to do with one of the conversion calibers firing oddly. ((Something about the barrel needing to be sent back to Ruger and bored out?)) If it matters, I do not shoot nearly enough to make a reloader cost effective, so only factory loads will be used.

2. I have been looking, and the cheapest that I have found it is 499.99 at Bud's. Does anyone know any other online store that may have it cheaper?

Thanks a lot!

L

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Bassleg
March 4, 2012, 03:42 AM
I have had one of 45 colt 45 acp Ruger Blackhawk Convertible for 28 years and have shot
1000s and 1000s of rounds and it's a great gun mine it a 7'' barrel I think it is my favorite.
They are about $525 here in Oregon so that price sounds good.

Dnaltrop
March 4, 2012, 04:20 AM
I just this week bought a 1987/88 ' ish Convertible with a 4" barrel and some of the nicest stag grips I've held at Shooter's Service Center here in Portland (great shop for repairs, Small but honestly priced selection+ Odd hours)

As the youngest is nearly potty trained in full, I can stop carrying my M&P .40 for fear of getting "waste products" in a less suitable gun, and I have a Shoulder rig on order with Ted Blocker (4-6 weeks... just missed the last production cycle for them, all made to order)

ACP cylinder appears to have been the primary one, but both have a light line on them, gun is silky smooth, Good bore, and I'd be taking it out tomorrow morning If I didn't have to buy the younger girls a Bunk bed instead...

I've run a series of primer-only wax rounds with zero light strikes, and spent the evening loading up some varied Universal +Oregon Trail cast loads. Nothing too Hot, but I've got a lot of time to spend with this revolver now.

Trying a new powder a week right now, Just because I can :D

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac294/greymtns/IMAG1886.jpg

$499 isn't too bad in my book, but I paid slightly more for this used one based on the value of the grips... I'd have never splurged on them individually, couldn't resist.

Dnaltrop
March 4, 2012, 04:21 AM
Delete please, double post.

BCRider
March 4, 2012, 05:14 AM
All I've read of the .45 version has been good. It's the 9mm/.357Mag version that has some possible accuracy issues due to the bullet size between 9mm and .357 being a couple of thou different. But the .45acp and .45Colt share the exact same bullet diameters so the barrel bore is perfect for either cartridge.

Over time you may well find that it shoots more accurately with some specific bullet type, weight and power level. But that'll be a fairly small thing in the grand scheme of things.

Stainz
March 4, 2012, 10:23 AM
A fair warning re the .45 convertible Blackhawk. If you are buying it to blast away with a leftover stash of inexpensive .45 ACP ball ammo, as I did many years ago... be aware of it's evil conniving. It will lure you in with that .45 Colt cylinder. "Try me..." is it's siren's song. I did... then I had to have everything in .45 Colt. My first S&W, 9/02, would be a .45 Colt 625 Mountain Gun. By 11/02, I had amassed over 2,700 .45 Colt cases in ziploc bags under my bench.

I swore I'd never reload. Oops. I bought a Dillon 550 11/02 'just' to reload .45 Colts. I soon added other calibers - some of which I had never owned. Everyone, reloaders included, donates brass to you when you start reloading. Another hobby - as if I needed it! I blame the .45 convertible. Be forewarned!

Really, it is a fun piece. My infection morphed into S&W DA-capable revolvers - like the 625JM in .45 ACP. I could probably claim the .45 convertible was causal there, too!

Stainz

hogshead
March 4, 2012, 10:29 AM
I have one and love it. Never had a problem with it. Sounds like a fair price to me. They are to find used and I would not sell mine.

guitarguy314
March 4, 2012, 01:09 PM
Thanks so much guys!

L

((Double post? Did this thread post twice? Are you referring to my thread in the WTB section?))

@ Bassleg - I am unable to find a 7'' convertible. I have found 7'' .45 Colt that you can buy the extra cylinder for for two hundred or so dollars. The longest SA convertible Ruger has on their site is a 5.5''. Where did you get the 7''? ((If you don't mind my asking?))

MikeJackmin
March 4, 2012, 02:09 PM
Have a 5.5 inch, love it.

Two tips:

1) You can use a magazine from a .45 auto as a sort of speedloader (don't laugh, it works quite well).

2) Assuming your gun is one of the older, larger frame variety, you can use the heavy-duty 'ruger only' .45 colt loads from Buffalo Bore. These will safely meet, and sometimes exceed, .44 magnum performance levels.

Dnaltrop
March 4, 2012, 02:20 PM
No, my own double post underneath the image of my recent acquisition. Lag put 2 copies of my response up, and It looks ugly, hence my request to any passing Moderator to delete my mistake to cover my shame.

;)

guitarguy314
March 4, 2012, 02:25 PM
@ Dnaltrop oh. haha. I never even noticed.

@ mikejackmin Yeah. I was looking to get the 5.5 inch myself. I don't have a .45 auto, so I'm afraid i won't be able to take advantage of that. It sounds cool though. And really... .44 mag power?

madwell
March 4, 2012, 05:33 PM
I have a 7" blackhawk convertible in 45. I think it was made in 1972 it is an older three screw model. shoots great. I haven't shot much long colt from it but I can put 6 bullets in a clover leaf with 45acp at 15 yards.

Driftwood Johnson
March 4, 2012, 05:49 PM
Howdy

I bought mine way back in 1975. Have always been pleased with it. I shoot it far more often with the 45 Colt cylinder than the 45ACP cylinder.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Driftwood_Johnson/rugers/BlackhawkConvertible.jpg

I think you are a bit mistaken about having barrels drilled out. I seriously doubt that anybody has ever 'drilled out' a barrel. What I believe you are referring to is chamber throats in the cylinder. The chamber throat is the narrowest part of the chamber, all the way at the front of the cylinder. It is true that in the past Ruger sent out some cylinders with chamber throats that were too tight. Standard rifling groove diameter for both 45 Colt and 45 ACP is .451. Ideally, you want a chamber throat of the same diameter, or just a tad over that. Around .452 or .4525 is pretty much ideal for both calibers. In the past, some chamber throats were coming through too tight. That meant that the bullet was swaged down in diameter as it passed through the chamber throat, and then it was sized down a bit too small to be grabbed effectively by the rifling. The solution for this is quite simple, a gunsmith reams out the chamber throat just a bit to the proper diameter.

Unfortunately, revolver manufacturers do not always get chamber throat diameters matched up perfectly with rifling groove diameter. Sometimes they are a bit too tight. Sometimes they are a bit too wide, which can be worse, allowing hot expanding powder gasses to squirt past the bullet, softening the sides of the bullet, which can be a principle cause of leading. 2nd Gen Colts were famous for oversized chamber throats.

I really cannot tell you what the story is with chamber throats these days as they leave Ruger. But I can tell you how to choose the correct bullet diameter for your chambers if you reload. Lead 45 Colt bullets generally come in two different diameters, .452 and .454. .452 is the correct diameter for all 45 Colt revolvers made after WWII. Previous to WWII 45 Colt rifling groove diameter was .454, that is what .454 bullets were meant for.

Take the cylinder out and point it at the ground. Obtain a couple of bullets each of .452 and .454 diameter. Drop a bullet into a chamber. What happens? The correct diameter bullet for any given chamber throat will hang up slightly in the chamber throat, and it will only take light finger pressure to push it through. Try this test with both diameter bullets in all six chambers. If a bullet falls right through, it is too small. If it hangs up and requires a lot of force to push it through, it is too big. The cylinder will tell you what size bullets it wants, and this will also tell you how close to spec the chamber throats are. If a .452 bullet hangs up in the chamber throat and needs a lot of force to be shoved through, it is a pretty good candidate for reaming to proper size. If a .452 bullet hangs up and slight pressure pushes it through, every thing is fine. If you have to go to a .454 bullet to get the same results, your chamber throats are slightly oversized, but probably not the end of the world. If a .454 bullet falls right through and hits the floor, the gun should probably be returned to be fitted with a new cylinder.

guitarguy314
March 4, 2012, 06:59 PM
Thanks so much! That is exactly what I was talking about! Do you think I should worry about this when buying mine? I will most likely buy new unless I can find an older one for a good price.

I plan to shoot "cowboy loads" in .45LC. Does the cowboy part refer to the diameter, or just the powder charge? Should I find some other kind of .45 LC round to shoot? Please excuse my lack of knowledge. haha

Driftwood Johnson
March 4, 2012, 07:24 PM
Howdy Again

Cowboy ammo simply means they are relatively lightly loaded. Not mousefarts, but a bit lighter than SAAMI spec MAX loads. There is no official SAAMI spec for Cowboy loads. Official Single Action Shooting Society rules state that muzzle velocity for pistols be no more than 1000 fps and for rifles no more than 1400 fps. Most cowboy loads will be considerably under that.

No, I would not worry too much about chamber throat diameter. Buy it and shoot it. If there is a problem, Ruger will make it right.

Dnaltrop
March 4, 2012, 07:25 PM
An "average" cowboy load for .45 colt is a Lead, round nosed 250 grain bullet pushed somewhere between 700-900 fps

I just bought a box of Oregon Trail Laser cast 200's to push a little faster and have some fun with my new toy, but for hunting rounds (non volume shooting) I'll move up to 250/300 grain hard cast lead.

Berry's 200 grain plated worked really nicely with 5.6 grains of titegroup in my Schofield, (very mild on the Split-frame design) and I'm working my way down the ladder with slower-burning powders for the Ruger now.

If you aren't reloading, you'll be using the ACP cylinder mostly... Blazer sells aluminum cased single-use rounds for under $20 a box around here. (about $0.38 a round)

If you want to shoot .45 Colt, Off the shelf Cowboy stuff starts between $32-$50 per box of 50, ($0.64-$1 or more!)

It's the caliber that turned me into a Mandatory reloader. You can buy a Lee loader, it's a little single caliber loader you literally hammer on to assemble rounds. but it's portable and can be taken into the field far more easily than a Turret press. They typically go for $30+. 20-30 shells a night and you'll make more than you can probably comfortably shoot each week.

http://www.amazon.com/90263-Lee-Classic-Loader-Long/dp/B00162THL4

I use a 4 hole turret myself, Best investment I've made in years.

There is a hand press version ( no hammering) for $40+, but you have to buy the die sets per caliber.

http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Hand-Press-90685/dp/B000NOQIFO

I say this now, for large bore shooting ANY reloading setup you go with will pay for itself in short order

This weeks math,
$65/500bullets = $0.13ea (Oregon Trail Laser Cast 200 gr RNFP)
Large Pistol Primers $35/1000 $0.035ea (last purchase for me at least)
Brass= negligble. Collected from shooting before buying my Reloading rig. Have a few hundred around in good shape.
Starline Brass New = 500 for $95 currently. Buying new = $0.19 per round, and you can use it till the primer pocket wears out.
Powder= 15-20 a can, Hundreds of rounds per can, never measured but lets arbitrarily call it a Nickle a shot unless someone with better experience throws a number out.

Per round Guesstimate this week for me... $0.22 a round. Cold start from new brass.. $0.41 , Compare that to $1+ a shot if you're at the mercy of bad ammo supplies and poor merchant pricing.

Especially if you turn into a Colt junkie like some of us poor souls.

Gunner4h1r3
March 4, 2012, 07:26 PM
I too own a convertible .45LC/.45ACP Blackhawk. Mine is the 5.5" Stainless variant that sported faux ivory grips (put those on my blued Blackhawk .44 and have the rosewood panels on the .45 now). Shot both .45 ACP and .45 LC out of it and it has been pretty dead on. Just got all the reloading supplies for .45 LC and made 50 rounds of 250 gr LRNFP over HP38. Will have to wait until I get back from this underway to test 'em out. The reloading manual says it should run around 900 fps or so. We will see.

Regardless it is an extremely fun sixgun to shoot, and you get funny looks when you start loading ACP rounds into a sixgun at the range.

243winxb
March 4, 2012, 07:30 PM
Had to return a 357/9mm Blackhawk Convertible to Ruger. The 1 chamber on the 9 was cut to deep. Misfired every time. All the 45lc/45acp were OK.

guitarguy314
March 4, 2012, 09:33 PM
Thanks for the reloading links, but I just don't think I shoot enough to make it worth it. I may go once or twice a month...so max 200 rounds a month. It sounds cool though. Maybe it would make me go shooting more. XD

I have now definitely made up my mind on the convertible. Now I just need the moolah.

Does anyone have any recommendations as to where to buy the rosewood grips for a blackhawk?

451 Detonics
March 4, 2012, 09:54 PM
My Old Model convertible which I have owned since 1971 (first year production for the 45) has been a shooting machine for many years without a bobble.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z271/reloader1959/handguns/bhrussell.jpg

MikeJackmin
March 4, 2012, 10:28 PM
> And really... .44 mag power?

Yep:

http://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=41

That's a 300 gr. bullet at 1,170 ft/s.

Ross Seyfried wrote an important article on this topic for Handloader magazine some years back. I can't find it, but here's a closely-related discussion:

http://www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm

The short version of the story is that .45 colt brass is awfully strong, and older Blackhawks (not the newer, smaller-frame variety vaqs) are similarly tough. There's no reason why they can't be safely loaded to these levels, which surprises many people. Of course, many other guns, including original peacemakers, are not nearly as strong and must not be used with these rounds.

Dnaltrop
March 4, 2012, 11:19 PM
I love that Linebaugh article, found it a few weeks ago myself when I first started considering buying my first Blackhawk, and while it's nice to "know" the guns are stronger, Reading someone who's really put them through their paces with precise controls puts me nicely into my Warm, Happy place.

He makes his .45's by boring out the .44 mag to tighter tolerances, and the brass is little more than a Gasket.

"The cartridge case in any firearm is simply a gasket to seal the hot gases away from the shooter and the firearm. Yes, it's critical that this component be of best quality and design. But overall the firearm itself contains the pressure. The reason the .45 Colt case bulges is the chambers in NEARLY ALL modern .45 Colts are grossly oversize."

It convinced me that I really didn't need to step up to the .44 magnum Blackhawk, which keeps me loading fewer calibers more efficiently.

pendennis
March 5, 2012, 12:06 AM
I've owned this one for over two-and-a-half years, and never a problem. It eats up everything from mild .45 ACP and .45 Colt, to some fairly "warm" .45 Colt handloads. Best of both worlds.

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu331/pendennis1947/RugerNewModelBlackhawkLFT.jpg

guitarguy314
March 5, 2012, 12:19 AM
Awesome! I'm very interested in hearing from someone who owns the new model. I'm more partial to the 5.5'' barrel but...have you had any problems with yours?

BCRider
March 5, 2012, 12:42 AM
Guitarguy, given the cost of .45Colt ammo you'll soon see the advantages of getting into reloading. It would be cheaper if you buy .45acp. But even that ammo can be reloaded for considerably less than buying factory ammo.

The great thing is that you can load up to various power levels and try different bullet weights. Over time and by recording the target results you'll get a feel for the recipe that lets the gun perform to it's maximum accuracy. Not to mention that it opens up the option to produce light bullet/weak charge "poofy" loads for recoil sensitive beginners yet still make sporty plinking loads and maybe even a box of some close to max pressure "arm shortening" rounds for some end of the day fun now and then.

It seems that the bigger the caliber the more flexible it is for reloading to produce exactly the results you want. Not to mention hunting for powder and bullet options that generate the biggest and most impressive fireball effects.... :D

highlander 5
March 5, 2012, 12:46 AM
Ruger had a bad habit of cutting their chamber mouths tight like .450". I have a Ruger Bisley in 45 Colt that I had to have the throats opened up to get decent accuracy. The newer versions are better but still a bit tight. I purchased a reamer kit from Browwnell's to open up the mouths on the last Blackhawk I bought in 45 Colt. The kit had a pilot included and using a tap wrench I opened the throats up to .4525. You'll have fun with your Blackhawk and if no one mentioned it you can fire 45 S&W from the revolver as well.

Bassleg
March 5, 2012, 01:52 AM
Guitarguy314,I picked up my 7" in 1985 or so but I don't remember where sorry.

BullRunBear
March 5, 2012, 04:29 AM
I got my Blackhawk 45 convertible second hand almost 30 years ago and have had no problems, even after firing thousands of rounds. The Bud's price you mentioned sounds good but don't forget to add in the shipping and FFL transfer fee. That could bring the cost up to what you would pay in a local gun store. Might be worth checking out.

Like so many others, I suggest you look into reloading eventually, especially for the 45 Colt cartridge. The cost is probably less than you think, especially if you deal with Midwayusa or Cabelas. A basic Lee Single stage press is less than 30 bucks. The other basic tools: a reloading manual (the one by Richard Lee is comprehensive, instructional and inexpensive), Lee powder scoop set, safety scale, powder funnel, hand primer with shell holder, Lee carbide dies, and a tray to hold the cases upright, don't cost much (I would guess under 100 dollars) and are one time purchases. With the possible exception of the hand primer tool, they can all last a lifetime. If you decide to reload for 45acp as well, the only other things needed are the appropriate carbide dies and a shell holder for the hand primer.

If you decide to try reloading, or just get curious about it, chances are your local library has books and manuals available. Also, the reloading forum here on the TheHighRoad has a wealth of information and knowledgeable people.

Hope this helps.

Jeff

PapaG
March 5, 2012, 10:45 AM
Have a 4 3/4 convertible and it is my favorite SA. Shoots great. Had a little contest with #2 son some time back..his rifled, scoped 20 gauge deer shotgun at fifty yards. Five shots with his, five with my Ruger using my CorBon deer loads. I got him, groupwise by a good inch...(my five were inside three inches). I know...a good slug gun should do better than that...but he's taken three deer with three shots in three years so i don't worry.

Racebannon
March 5, 2012, 01:36 PM
The Ruger 45 Colt/45 ACP combo is great. This one has an EPS Patton #5 holster.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/WilliamTheConqueror/momandkev008.jpg

340PD
March 5, 2012, 06:42 PM
I had one with target sights and a trigger job. Using 45 long colt handloads it was the most accurate revolver I have ever shot. The .45 acp cylinder was a very close second. Why I sold it I still do not know. I really regret that sale.

SG1
March 6, 2012, 12:12 AM
I picked up a Lipsey's Ruger Blackhawk Flattop convertible .45 Colt/.45 ACP a couple weeks ago. 4.5" barrel, stainless, simulated ivory grips. I love it! I've only shot ACP out of it so far but it instantly became my favorite pistol. I can't wait to try out some .45 Colt.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg585/blackhawk5106/BlackhawkFlattopandBuck.jpg

Had to show it off :D

BullRunBear
March 6, 2012, 12:52 AM
SG1, That is a great looking piece. If I didn't already have the Blackhawk and a New Vaquero in 45 Colt, I'd be saving up for that one.

Jeff

guitarguy314
March 6, 2012, 12:58 AM
Thanks again for all of the replies guys! So What I am hearing is that the blackhawk is an awesome gun but...sometimes the throats may need to be reamed out.

How will I know if my gun needs reamed out? Could it explode if not properly reamed?
Would ruger ream the throats out? A gunsmith? Who should I get to do the work?

Bassleg
March 6, 2012, 02:37 AM
If you have a problem with your gun if it needs to be reamed Ruger will do it and make it right, that just the way they are.

Lost Sheep
March 6, 2012, 03:19 AM
I have been thinking about buying the above revolver. But I had a few questions, and hope someone here may be able to help me.

1. I have read many 5-star reviews of this gun, but I have also heard a few bad things. Does anyone own one? Have you ever had problems with it?

-----A lot of what I have heard as far as problems go usually had to do with one of the conversion calibers firing oddly. ((Something about the barrel needing to be sent back to Ruger and bored out?)) If it matters, I do not shoot nearly enough to make a reloader cost effective, so only factory loads will be used.

2. I have been looking, and the cheapest that I have found it is 499.99 at Bud's. Does anyone know any other online store that may have it cheaper?

Thanks a lot!

L
The most common accuracy problem with the 45 Colt revolvers (both convertibles and dedicated Colt/Long Colt chamberings) is matching the chamber throat diameters with the forcing cone and bore diameter. The usual cure is to ream the chamber throats, not boring the barrel.

All this is my guess from your post, since I don't know exactly what you have heard, but that is the most common source of accuracy complaint and is based on the history of the 45 Colt cartridge which started out with a .454" diameter bullet, but as the 45 ACP and convertible guns became more popular, the .451" diameter of the 45 ACP has now become the standard. But there is still a lot of confusion about lead vs jacketed and .451" vs .454".

By the way, my 45 Colt/45 ACP Bisley shoots just fine without any modifications. $500 is a GREAT price for a stainless (bought mine used for that) and not bad for a new blued one.

Lost Sheep

Lost Sheep

TennJed
March 7, 2012, 02:45 AM
I have a 4 5/8 blued Blackhawk and have no problems with it at all. I have only shot about 100 roounds of 45acp out of it though (1000+ 45lc). I did not notice any difference at all in accuracy with that 100 rounds.

the reason of the low 45acp count it that it is currenty the only gun I have in 45acp. I bought it to go with my other 45 colt and liked the idea of have the 45acp when I finaly pull the trigger in a 1911

cpt-t
March 8, 2012, 07:06 PM
GUITARGUY314:
I have been a RUGER fan for maney years and my Son and I have several. We have never had a problem with any Ruger we own. The first Ruger I bought in 1972 found two 2 45LC/ 45ACP pistole at the May`s city drug strore / Gun store in Joplin Mo. I was home on leave from VIET NAM so I brought both of them both a 4 1/2 and a 7 1/2 inch and I took the short barreled gun back to VIET NAM with me, I left the 45 LC cylinder at home. The little gun servied me very well. And so when I got ready to go home a friend ask to borrow it and he said he would return when he came home a few months later. He didn`t make it home so I didn`t get it back, and I have often wondered what happened to it. I hope who ever got it took care of it and is still enjoying it. I nevered replaced that gun but I still have the extra 45LC cylinder in the safe. The 7 1/2 ruger is like an old friend, I have carried it for alest a 100 miles mostley in a shoulder holster. T he only change I have ever made to it was a real nice set of Stag Grips. Back when I still had good eyes and was young I could shoot a ragget hole at 25 yds from a rest and the 45ACP would group about 1 to 2 inches higher than 45 LC. I could`t make a guess how many rounds have been fired thru it. I used it for the Hunter siluitte shoots when I lived in texas. I have plinked with this gun and I have hunted with gun for close to 40yrs, and she is like an old friend. I have shot a lot of varmits and a few hogs and deer whit the gun. Both were the old 3 screw models always carried 5 when hunting. Like I said when I was young and I did my part she would put 6 rounds in a circle about like a golf ball or less. It was always a comforting gun to carry no matter where i was. I can`t belive you won`t just fall for the gun like i did so many years ago and I still feel the same way. Good Luck To You: ken

Gary A
March 9, 2012, 12:14 AM
Cpt-t - that was a fine and bittersweet tale and I'm glad you told it. Thanks.

Dnaltrop
March 9, 2012, 11:24 AM
I've been spending all week ( 3 range trips in rapid fire) making up 25 shot workups with 200 and 250 grain Oregon Trail Cast rounds and getting fully acquainted with my new friend.

Finally went *just* over listed max Jacketed data (not a BIG +p, just one step above the listed value on the Autodisc) and the Universal I was about to abandon because of smoke, finally started combusting fully.

Currently running 9.3 grains under both weights, seemed the best test round from yesterday's series, Just enough snap to make sure you're awake.

I'm not aiming for "Ruger only". just finding where Recoil and accuracy meet comfort for this particular big galoot.

I really am loving this little gun. Off to the Range again with 100 more rounds :D

It's been a good week.

cpt-t
March 9, 2012, 12:17 PM
GARY A: When you get old and fat you are just in the way, and all you have left are just your storys. Thanks for your comments. ken

Master Blaster
March 9, 2012, 03:16 PM
I have one with the 4 5/8" barrel I bought used about 6 years ago its 2002? production, I shoot the .45 acp cylinder all the time, .45 colt hardly ever. But then I load .45 acp on a regular basis. The .45 acp cylinder in the gun is extremely accurate despite the long chambers. Its more accurate in my hands than my Gold Cup National Match.

Go for it you will love it.

guitarguy314
March 9, 2012, 08:07 PM
Thank you guys so much! Thanks so much for sharing your story Cpt-T. I'm pretty much dead set on the blackhawk now. Now all I have to do is save up the money. XD

bill97222
March 11, 2012, 06:23 PM
Everybody is correct... Unlike almost everything in life, the Ruger 45LC/ACP Convertible Blackhawk is no compromise.

Mine fires both cartridges accurately.

I shot a few boxes of factory 45 LC to accumulate cases... then I got to handloading the 45 Colt.

Using 200 gr round nose flat points that I had onhand for my 1911's and 8 grains of Unique I went down to the range.

It's 50 feet... fired the first round... about 3/4" left of point of aim... Fired 2, 3, 4 and 5 into a ragged hole about the size of a quarter.

I'd love to tell you that I typically get those type of results... but that would not be the truth... LOL...

Suffice it to say the Ruger 45 Convertible is a heck of a single action revolver package.

ghitch75
March 11, 2012, 06:39 PM
i sure like mine....not a min's trouble....have a cylinder for my blued 4 5/8" Blackhawk too..

http://i53.tinypic.com/2873c02.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb368/ghitch75/S3010417.jpg

Lucas_Y
March 11, 2012, 09:20 PM
I've had my convertible for only a few years, but it has been a great gun. Blued, 5.5" barrel. I've got a few different loads for it from mild to wild in both 45 colt and 45 acp. Made some stabilized maple grips for it. I'd buy another one without thinking twice.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/96xj4ltr5sp/gun/IMG_5669.jpg

Usually carry it strong side, opposing my new model vaquero that rides crossdraw.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/96xj4ltr5sp/gun/holsters.jpg

Doubting Thomas
March 13, 2012, 11:35 PM
I got my 4 5/8" Convertible about 14 years ago; had both cylinders reamed out to .4525.
The .452 cast bullets in ACP lead the bore so other than some jacketted .45 ACP I use .454 cast bullets in the .45 Colt. Between an excellent 2# pull and the nice visible sights it is probably one of my best shooting guns. I load the 250 gr. Keith SWCs with 8.5 grains of Unique which is plenty of power and will shoot into one hole if I let it.

It's a big gun, but with the big holes and alloy grip frame and ejector housing, very light for its caliber. The big old plowhandle grip just soaks up recoil. My .44 Rugers have gotten very little use since I got it. I could get along very well with just this one gun.

Gary A
March 14, 2012, 12:09 AM
It's a big gun, but with the big holes and alloy grip frame and ejector housing, very light for its caliber.

I could get along very well with just this one gun.

Couldn't agree more with either statement. My favorite gun.

Highplainsman
April 11, 2012, 11:18 AM
About a week ago I traded for a Ruger 45 convertible with 7 1/2 inch barrel. Serial indicates it was made in 1980. I went out of the 1911 business preferring to carry my Glock 27 but have quite a bit of 45 ACP on hand and a little 45 colt. I just last evening read Jeff Quinns article on doing a poor boy trigger job on Rugers . I accomplished this on the 45 and a single six in about ten minutes. Makes a world of differance in the typical Ruger (heavy) trigger. I would reccomend Jeffs article to those of you wishing to improve the trigger on your Rugers without spending any money. Also read an interesting article about using 460 Roland reloading data in 45acp cases for your Rugers. Bought this gun and the single six to hopefully enjoy using during my upcoming retirement at the end of the year. Have enjoyed reading this series of posts on the 45 convertible. My thanks to the Highroad Org. for their site.

Highplainsman
April 11, 2012, 05:06 PM
Tried the 45 convertible out at about 12 yds from a rest with both cylinders. Manage a 4 shot almost one hole group with the 45 colt and a 5 shot with the acp. If you arnt impressed with the yardage please take into account that I'm 73 and my eyes and shaky hands arn't what they used to be, plus I have not done this type of shooting in well over twenty years. I do believe this gun is a shooter even if my skills are somewhat lacking.:)

Arkansas Paul
April 11, 2012, 05:18 PM
I considered a convertible, but ended up just getting the .45 Colt version. I handload, so I didn't figure I would save any money shooting .45 acp. I was right. I even cast now so I'm loading .45 Colt rounds for $7.40/100.

My advice would be, if you don't handload, get the convertible. You can save some money on ammo. If you do, just get the .45 Colt.

Just one feller's opinion.

MCgunner
April 12, 2012, 05:05 PM
Casting my own from range scrap, I can load .45 Colt for something under 3 dollars a box of 50. It's an easy caliber to load for, too, and very accurate.

I do also handload for .45ACP, but I'll stick with my KP90DC for that one. :D

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