Revolver for training


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papawjohnb
March 4, 2012, 10:48 PM
I am new to firearms and have some training on a sig p250 compact 9mm and a Taurus 357 magnum ( 2inch barrel ) and like the feel of the revolver but need something to train with on the revolver line to help me with the larger caliber. I am using 38sp in the magnum and seem to fair better with it. like I said i am new to this and have got the fever but not the budget. Any suggestion on some choices?

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2zulu1
March 4, 2012, 11:33 PM
Welcome to the forum. :)

More years ago than I care to admit, I bought a Ruger Blackhawk and began shooting the 357 mag. After more than four decades later I still have that Blackhawk and a number of other 357 mags; Colt, S&W and Dan Wesson.

Are you thinking new or used? Buying local or internet?

I don't have one, but GP 100s are well built and it has a strong following. The Blackhawk is always a good consideration as are used Dan Wessons built at Monson, MA.

I took up handloading early on to afford my shooting habit. :) Reloading components for the mag cost about the same as the 9mm. While component costs are less expensive than a number of other calibers, don't expect to save money because you'll probably be shooting more rounds down range.

Let us know how your search goes. :)

hermannr
March 4, 2012, 11:38 PM
If you are looking for an inexpensive 22 revolver, used, High Standard made some pretty nice ones that are still inexpensive. Look for made in Connecticut rather than later ones made in TX.

When you said you were on a budget, I though the most gun for the money...hence the High Standard.

JTHunter
March 5, 2012, 01:03 AM
You might also consider a Ruger .22 Convertible revolver. It has two cylinders; one for all .22's (shorts, longs, and long rifle) and the other for .22 Magnum only. This gun, with the 6" barrel, can be used for either target practice or for hunting out to about 100 feet (less than 50' better). And, while the Magnum could be used for home defense, it really is too small unless you are very close or become a phenominal shot.
A .38 Special is probably the minimal revolver for home defense but you can get a .357 Magnum and shoot the Specials in it for less kick. A Ruger GP101 is a reasonably priced pistol available in both sizes.
Good luck in your shopping.

Bubba613
March 5, 2012, 02:55 AM
.38spc is one of teh cheapest centerfire cartridges out there. What's wrong with shooting .38s out of the 2", period? I dont think you gain much using 357s and many many people shoot and carry 38s in their 357.

doc2rn
March 5, 2012, 03:04 AM
Look for an old S&W mod 10 police trade in at Bud's Guns. They run $270ish and where mostly carried lots and fired little. These are strictly .38 spec only, with a 4" barrel. Great range guns and I dont feel under-armed if I carry one.

hariph creek
March 5, 2012, 03:31 PM
Is this for defense? If not, get a .22. Cheap to shoot, no recoil. The only bad thing about .22lr revolvers is, they often cost as much as their centerfire counterparts.

If it's for home defense, but not concealed carry, get a 4"-6" revolver. They're a heck of alot easier to shoot than a snub nose. .357mag's are nice because you can practice with .38special. There's nothing wrong with a dedicated .38, either. The recommended S&W model 10's are fantastic.

If you want one for concealed carry, a 2"-3" barrel is really the way to go. I love snub nose revolvers. I do, personally, feel that .357 is more trouble than it's worth in a 2"-3" barrel. I don't deny that it's more powerfull than a .38. I just prefer a .38.

Don't forget used. It takes alot to wear out a decent gun. A little abuse goes along way, though. But, this is usually easy to spot.
Smith & Wesson, Colt, Ruger, Taurus, High Standard, etc... Find one you like, HANDLE IT, if it's in your budget get it.
Try not to buy on impulse or under pressure. That ''amazing deal'' won't be the last one you'll see.
Once you pick a couple likely canidates, research them. Just remember, alot of ''internet ninjas'' have an ''ax to grind.'' Take bad reviews with a grain of salt. Unless something gets ONLY bad feedback. Normally I figure each good experience is worth 5-10 bad opinions. If you find something, you can always ask here on the THR, too.

papawjohnb
March 7, 2012, 08:49 PM
.38spc is one of teh cheapest centerfire cartridges out there. What's wrong with shooting .38s out of the 2", period? I dont think you gain much using 357s and many many people shoot and carry 38s in their 357.
What ar your thougths on a 327 magnum with a 3 0r 4 inch barrel?

oldfool
March 8, 2012, 08:01 AM
327s are real nice, but if you don't like the cost of store bought generic whitebox 38sp ammo, you are going to suffer shock and awe at the price of 327 (and/or 32 H&R mag, or even 32 S&W/L) ammo

Look for a 22 rimfire in a configuration as close as can find to the centerfire gun you most favor. 22 rimfires are the #1 best training aid ever was, no kidding. The 'better/best' flavors of rimfire guns are not dirt cheap, but the ammo is.

good luck

papawjohnb
March 8, 2012, 10:30 PM
Thank you for the info. I will research this and get back with you with some posible choices to see if I am on the right path.
Again, Thank you for you for your incite.

Jim NE
March 9, 2012, 01:58 PM
Look for a 22 rimfire in a configuration as close as can find to the centerfire gun you most favor

Yes. And I like the RUger convertible idea even better. The problem is, some of the Rugers mentioned for training purposes are more expensive than the Taurus intended for final use.

I'd say just get a convertible Heritage .22 instead. It's single action instead of double action, but I got Heritage Rough Rider convertible from Bud's (blemished) for only $148. A great gun, and though I have .22's that I like better, I wouldn't mind if it was my only .22 handgun.

Also, if the original poster says he's "got the fever", there's no way he's going to avoid having a .22 in his collection, in the long run.

BCRider
March 9, 2012, 02:17 PM
Didn't one of the online dealers have a special on turn in stainless S&W's in .357 or .38 with fixed sights going on? Was it Bud's again? I'd look to see but their website seems to be down at the moment.

oldfool
March 9, 2012, 07:52 PM
probably J&G, BC
they seem to have a pretty steady supply of 'em
lots w/ bobbed hammers for DAO, but not all

BYJO4
March 9, 2012, 07:59 PM
I'm not sure from your post if you now own a revolver or have been shooting someone elses. Also need to know what you primarily plan to use the revolver for besides "training".

Hondo 60
March 9, 2012, 08:43 PM
J&G Sales current has S&W Model 64s (a stainless .38 spl) and Model 66s (stainless .357 mag).

http://www.jgsales.com/handguns-c-16_211_431.html

Arp32
March 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
I picked up one of those 64's at J&G, it's a smooth shooter. Solid gun, I take it out every time we go shooting.

papawjohnb
March 9, 2012, 11:12 PM
I'm not sure from your post if you now own a revolver or have been shooting someone elses. Also need to know what you primarily plan to use the revolver for besides "training".
I do own a Taurus T605 snubby 357 and was thinking about picking up a inexpensive revolver similar to this to improve accuracy and better feel. I do have a sig p250 compact 9mm which I like alot but the taurus feel great in my hand which is medium size.
Thank you for your reply.
Johnny B

papawjohnb
March 14, 2012, 09:52 PM
The s/w model 10 in used at Buds gun shop would be the way to go? They seem very reasonable in price. Is this what I am really looking for to help with improving the feel and accuacy. This would be a range gun and kept at home for protection, The snub I will carry. Is there anything that I need to look for or ask about when choosing this gun?
I know these are a lot of question but I have been reading reviews on every brand and caliber that I have found and still looking every evening after work, Your input is greatly appreciate it.
Thank You!
Johnny B

ArchAngelCD
March 14, 2012, 11:20 PM
IMO more important than which gun to buy is developing good trigger control. You can practice trigger control without even firing a round. Buy a set of snap caps and pull the trigger several Hundred times a night. Without recoil you will quickly see what you're firing wrong and be able to correct it. Positive muscle memory will come next.

Dry firing will cure the fever without breaking the budget. It's very good practice when done correctly and will improve your shooting and accuracy...

BCRider
March 15, 2012, 03:06 AM
Ideally you'd be able to ask for one of the tighter timing guns. But I suspect they just reach into a big box and pull one out and package it. So it'll likely be "luck o' the draw". The good news is that no one here, and there's been more than a few, have been anything less than very happy with their J&G or Bud's police or security company surplus S&W deals.

For myself I prefer blued guns so I'd go for one of the Bud's deals. If you have bigger hands go for the square butt model. If smaller hands get the round butt. Then find some grips that fit nicer than the Magna grips that come on them by the look of the pictures. Or if you prefer stainless than the J&G deals on similar 64's with round or square butt frames.

I see that they want a bunch more coin for the Model 66's. If you don't NEED to shoot .357Mag then the deals on the 10's or 64's is a much better option.

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