What guns would you go for in a raffle?


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Monkeyleg
March 6, 2012, 05:35 PM
I may be helping a friend conduct a raffle. I'm trying to research which guns would be the most desirable.

If you were at a raffle, which gun would you buy a lot of tickets for? It can be a handgun, rifle or shotgun. Figure on a gun that cost under $1500, just to keep it realistic.

Multiple votes for the same gun are welcome, as such votes show the popularity of that gun.

Thanks for any replies.

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ThorinNNY
March 6, 2012, 05:48 PM
When I buy a raffle ticket(s) I consider it a donation to the organization that`s holding the raffle.My liking the organization has far more to do with my buying tickets than the prize they`re offering.
Having said that, the prize that would really ring the bell for me would be any quality lever action rifle in .45-70 govt. A Winchester model 95 in 30-06 Springfield would also be welcomed.

Rat Robb
March 6, 2012, 05:56 PM
A nice 1911 (STI Trojan or Colt Gold Cup) or an AR (Smith and Wesson M&P15 or Stag Model 8) would get my attention but it depends on your demographic.

-Robb

Dnaltrop
March 6, 2012, 06:10 PM
Um...

Sequential SN Ruger 1911's? ( or brand of choice, just first one that came to mind)

Matched Revolvers?

Single guns with a Gift Certificate for one of the nicer rigs at the local holster shop? (or the holster itself if you want to play the Belt size/leftie-rightie Lottery.)

JWF III
March 6, 2012, 06:11 PM
What organization will the raffle be benefitting? That would have a lot of say in what guns would be most appropriate. (Appropriate may be the wrong word to use there but I can seem to think of one that would be more appropriate.:neener:)

IOW, an AR or AK wouldn't be the best choice (not that a lot of people wouldn't like them), but they wouldn't be the best choice for a NWTF or DU banquet. Hunting firearms, especially (but not limited to) shotguns would be more typical firearms for that crowd.

Other than wanting to pick up a new "beater" deer rifle, there are probably no new guns that really tickle my fancy. So I wouldn't be the best to judge by. I like older Smiths (revos and 3rd gen. autos), mil-surps of all ages and old original Winchesters/Trapdoors/etc.

Wyman

OARNGESI
March 6, 2012, 06:12 PM
how about splitting the money maybe a lower end ak like a century arms ak74=400 a glock=500 a s&w j frame 38=400 and a maverick 88 12 gaug=175 that way a little something for everyone and you can get people to enter 4 times rather than just once.

rm23
March 6, 2012, 06:23 PM
I'd look for quality. Not sure I'd part with a dollar for some gun I don't want.

Monkeyleg
March 6, 2012, 06:24 PM
The top end of $1500 is for each gun, not for all of the guns.

The raffle would be for a pro-gun group, so there's a real cross-section of gun owner types. I'd say that there's not as many hunters or trap shooters in attendance as other types of shooters, but they'll still be there.

RM23, there's no requirement for people to buy tickets. I'm just trying to figure out what would sell the most tickets.

jim243
March 6, 2012, 07:37 PM
I may be helping a friend conduct a raffle.

Be careful, unless you friend is a 501 C 3, 4 or 5 organization. It is a felony called gambling not a raffle.

Jim

HankB
March 6, 2012, 07:45 PM
New guns, under $1500 each?

S&W M&P 15-22
Browning P-35
S&W 1911Sc two-tone with round butt

Are used guns in the mix?

A nice Luger
A "Special Grade" CMP M1 Garand
almost any pre-lock, pre-MIM S&W K, L, or N frame revolver

Monkeyleg
March 6, 2012, 07:46 PM
jim243, it's for a political action committee, which is legal. I went round and round with the gaming commission in WI when we had fund-raisers for CCW. That's why my friend tapped me. ;)

Spaceman Spiff
March 6, 2012, 08:19 PM
howdy kids, first post @ THR, i apologize in advance for my lack of caps and abuse of the ellipse (...)

1,500 clams seems to be plenty of room for a quality basic AR (as rightly suggested by many above)...you could also go with one of the newer entry-level 1911s (remington, ruger, etc.)...a wheelgun (or two) might not be a bad option, like a gp-100 or smith 686...or if you really want to get ridiculous you could offer a trio of glocks @ $500 each...

i would personally buy a few tickets to a glock 17/19/26 raffle for sure ;) it's not clear if the guns you offer need to be made in america, though, due to the political nature of the raffle...

Hunterdad
March 6, 2012, 08:31 PM
Definitely need a shotgun in there. Maybe a nice Wingmaster?

Tim the student
March 6, 2012, 11:08 PM
A dang lot of folks either want a nice M1, or want another nice M1.

Maybe a nice M1 carbine as a partner. I bet you can get both for 1500, if you shop judiciously.

allaroundhunter
March 7, 2012, 01:08 AM
Maybe a Dan Wesson 1911?

TxSteve713
March 7, 2012, 01:17 AM
The guy with multiple guns for that much sounds much more fun for everyone.

metalart
March 7, 2012, 01:20 AM
I would certainly participate for a nice 1911. Perhaps a nice lever gun? However you may get more participation if you put up something more "tactical" Like a midrange AR.

50 cal
March 7, 2012, 01:22 AM
AR lower recievers:)

ms6852
March 7, 2012, 03:17 AM
I have to agree with ThorinNNY it is about the organization. On the other hand it has to be a firearm in a practical caliber. I doubt I would donate for a 338, 375, or a 50BMG. If my 30-06 can not handle it I do not want to shoot it.

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 7, 2012, 04:33 AM
I'd have to buy at least one ticket, maybe more, if there were any of these:

-M1a
-nice 1911: Colt, Smith, Ruger, Dan W, Sig, even a .38 super or 10mm, but those calibers might no appeal to most.
-one of the newer Smith Schofields! I'd then proceed to get the moon-clip 'TK' conversion for it seen on gunblast :)
-semi-auto Tommy gun
-AR in .308
-Browning Hi-power
-I really liked the sound of the 3 glock package, and I'm not a 'glock-guy,' I don't own one ...yet
-Smith .460 (shoots .454 and .45lc too...)
-rem 870 wingmaster, with short and long barrels
-Henry Goldenboy! such a fun rifle
-classy lookin' S&W j-frame, shiny blued with sweet grips?
-Browning Buckmark
-m14
-CZ-97b, or CZ75
-S&W 1006, it'd probably be used, but those are so sweet
-Kriss Vector! That thing looks awesome!
-GP-100, I already own one, but two would be nice!
-I'd be more likely to buy a raffle ticket for a Desert Eagle, than to ever actually buy a Desert Eagle... and I'd be very happy if I won one!

I'm not very experienced in the realm of suppressors, but could a suppressor with tax stamp be legally raffled??


maybe consider a $1000 gun with a $500 engraving job? :)

I'll probably think of 5 more I'd rather have than a few of the ones I mentioned, right after I click submit reply...

keep us posted on what you decide to go with please! :) and let us know if tickets are available to THR users :D

valnar
March 7, 2012, 06:32 AM
A nice 1911. I agree with Dan Wesson as a solid choice.

Since it's a raffle, depending on the organization, you might be able to get Les Baer or Ed Brown to come down on one of their models and 'donate' the difference to put it within $1500.

Isaac-1
March 7, 2012, 11:44 AM
Ok, here are my thoughts (again depends on the group, if tickets will be sold to the general public, etc.), I would pick a long gun of some type, that way you open up sales to the 18-21 crowd. Second pick something nice with a broad appeal for use, for example one that has some appeal to the tacticool crowd, but can still be a practical shooter, my first thought here is a Mini-14 in stainless with a wood stock. The key here is something nice, don't try to do what so many people do and raffle off the cheapest gun you can find at the local Wal-Mart. Something with limited production would be nice too, just don't get too far away from the mainstream.

jbkebert
March 7, 2012, 12:31 PM
I currently serve as the president of the hunter education instructor association for Shawnee county Kansas. (Topeka area) We have been doing gun raffles for the past four years as a means of raising monies for various projects.

In the past since we are hunting orientated the guns have been a centerfire hunting rifle and a shotgun. Last year we had a .270 winchester cz 550 american and a cz o/u 20ga shotgun. Both great guns and could be used by youth hunters our primary focus.

Tickets were sold at the price of $5 each or 5 tickets for $20. The drawing was held at our final hunter education class for the year. The first name drawn received the rifle and the second name drawn received the shotgun. The previous year it was one ticket received both guns. Tickets were $10 each or 3 tickets for $20.

Since this has been my baby from the start 4 years ago. I might share some things that I have learned.

1. Ticket price- Keep it low as possible you will sell more tickets and the money raised will be higher in the end.

2. Chances to win- We made a pretty fair amount of money off the raffle two years ago when the winner received both guns. However last year giving everyone two chances to win increased the number of willing ticket buyers. At $5 each or 5 for $20 with the same initial cost of guns. We ended up not quite double the monies from the previous year.

3. Help- Several folks will be all about the raffle idea and even offer to help. Figure the number of helpers that offer maybe a 1/3 will.

4. Records- Keep records of the number of tickets given to any member of you organization to sell. Expect the money, tickets and unused tickets returned in a timely manner. I wasn't so much worried about theft as forgetfulness. I assure you keeping records of actual ticket sales and profit is a pain. The more folks involved the more of pain it becomes.

5. Look to gun manufactures- Several gun companies offer generous discounts to a organization for a fundraiser. CZ gave us a very good price. The first year remington gave us extreamly good pricing. Call the companies and ask. This year we are going through Henry.

We decided to change it up this year. We will sell chances at hunter education classes only. A local pro-shop donated a bow set-up and we have purchased so far three henry H001 rifles. Every class we will draw a winner right before cards are handed out. The student gets their choice of either a new bow or .22 rifle. Will be selling the tickets for $2 each. Not alot of money but we do not have tons of money invested either.

6. Tickets- You can run extreams with this. Circus tickets are cheap but hard to write on and even harder to read. Professional tickets can get costly. We bought a pack of tickets at office depot I think its 440 tickets for $23. You go to their website and use the template and design your own. The are numbered but we didn't use the numbers. You can print yourself or have them print for $0.15 per page. So the 440 cost you $32 printed up not bad.

7. Check into legalities of transfering a gun won in a raffle. Every state is different.

8. Set your rules in advance- Does ticket holder have to present to win at time of drawning. (I assure you that will severly limit ticket sales) What will you do if winner doesn't return calls. (had this happen. I called at least 12-15 times and left messages before getting through 3 weeks later).

9. Who will order and accept responsibilty for the guns. Someone has to fill out the paperwork. It cannot in my understanding be sold to a organization without a ton of paperwork. So a individual has their name on the gun or guns until the raffle. At that time how will a transfer be done to also transfer the name of ownership of the firearm. Its easy in Kansas but lord knows in other states.

10. Receiving the gun- If you ask a gun company for a reduced price. That is great. Typically you order the firearm directly from the manufacture and they will send to the FFL or your choice. However I assure you that gun company if full-filling it orders to wholesalers first. I waited two and half months for one gun. Yes I got it for a discount but the wait really messed with plans. Make sure lead times are clear. Saving a couple hundred bucks on the gun might of cost us 2-3 times that savings in the end. (my fault for not addressing this just didn't think it would be an issue)


Just some things to think about if you have not already.

panhead58ak
March 7, 2012, 01:07 PM
high end guns deffinatly attract attention however I have done very well at a couple of rural area benifits with henry leveraction 22 rifles thay can be bought new for less than 250 and they are irresitible every one can use an extra 22 for a truck gun ,kids,grandkids etc. you sell tickets $5 for 1 or 5 for $20 it doesnt take long to start making profit

exospex
March 7, 2012, 04:18 PM
Our club does not actually raffle the gun. but a gift certicicate to Gander Mountain for the cost of the gun including taxes. Gander handles all the transfer paperwork. It works pretty good (even though I havent won yet)

Golderpuff
March 7, 2012, 04:33 PM
As stated above list your rules carefuly and stick to them. For our current gun raffle we have:
1. S&W AR-15 (5.56)
2. Beretta Px4 Storm 40 or 45
3. Henry Golden Boy 22LR Lever Action
4. Ruger LC9 9mm
5. Remington 870 12 or 20 guage

A new gun is added for every hundred tickets sold after the original 500 tickets up to 32 guns this is for the Volunteer Fire Department I am on. We poll people that come to our feeds and anytime there are a group of locals together to see what they would like to see on the list the next couple of guns to be added are going to drive some sales I will say that.

Tickets are 10 dollars each.

wannabeagunsmith
March 7, 2012, 05:36 PM
Any Glock, and a Mini 14.

captain awesome
March 7, 2012, 05:55 PM
I would buy one for a nice M1A national match. AR10, I like the 460 performance center smith idea also, high quality 1911s are always a good choice as well.

35Rem
March 7, 2012, 08:26 PM
Might double check the gambling thing. If you aren't from here, it's been a PRETTY BIG issue the last couple years.
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/alcode/13A/12/2/1/13A-12-20

Monkeyleg
March 7, 2012, 10:50 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'm a little surprised by the choices of guns. I guess I was expecting some replies with guns that were a little more unusual, exotic, whatever. The suggestions so far seem pretty mainstream.

Isaac-1
March 8, 2012, 02:45 AM
mainstream is what will appeal to the most people

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 8, 2012, 04:58 AM
i KNEW i'd forget something... Coonan .357mag 1911!!!

OARNGESI
March 8, 2012, 07:14 AM
cop 357

Golderpuff
March 8, 2012, 07:52 AM
The store that supplies the guns for our raffle has also let us put it in writting that if anyone would like the value of the prize put towards another gun they can do it. So it is what ever we paid for the gun can be placed toward a different gun.

Golderpuff
March 8, 2012, 07:54 AM
@35 Rem we are a registered non profit and put this on a permit just like bingo and pull tickets at churches.

35Rem
March 8, 2012, 09:42 AM
Is this going to be in Alabama, as indicated? We aren't Ohio, and gambling is a big issue in AL lately.

I think you have to ask for a "donation" and not be a real "raffle". Ask an attorney in Alabama.

I put this out there so it doesn't get shot down later by do-gooders. I think it's silly, really, but it's real.

Something I would be interested in would be a S&W or Colt .22 LR AR style rifle. I think that would appeal to a lot. Shotguns are good bets, usually. Benelli and Beretta are attention catching names.

You need to pick guns that will appeal to your target base. If in a rural area, hunting guns will sell more tickets. Target shooters want target type guns. City folks may like self defense stuff more.

docnyt
March 8, 2012, 10:15 AM
Colt 1911 and Colt AR would be a nice pair if you could swing it.

Benelli M4.

A nice BHP if you can find one.

Malachi Leviticus Blue
March 8, 2012, 08:07 PM
For me? a Rossi Ranch Hand in 44 mag or 357 or a Henry Mares leg would get my attention.

AK_Maine_iac
March 8, 2012, 08:56 PM
How about a good 50 caliber black powder in-line muzzle loader. This way you can cut out the middle man. No FFL, No transfers needed, No back ground checks.
Just my thoughts on this. For that price you could have one rifle and a matching caliber revolver.

Another plus is if the winner happens to live out of town or state. The gun can be mailed to his or her front door no questions asked.

Monkeyleg
March 8, 2012, 11:57 PM
35Rem, it's not here in AL. I appreciate the stance against gambling here (and in other southern states).

whalerman
March 9, 2012, 01:15 AM
There is no point in me thinking about what guns I might go after. The money is gone and I will never see anything for it. I never win anything. The Good Lord hates me. I don't see how that could be as every time I go to a raffle or a dinner I pray like mad for me to win something.

Monkeyleg
March 9, 2012, 01:21 AM
The Good Lord hates me. I don't see how that could be as every time I go to a raffle or a dinner I pray like mad for me to win something.

"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz..." :)

Dmitri Popov
March 9, 2012, 01:59 AM
My preferences in no particular order:

1. M1 Garand or Carbine
2. AR-15/10
3. Ruger Vaquero
4. A Glock...
5. AK-47/74
5. I know it sounds goofy but, a nice SKS
6. M1903a3
7. 1911
8. A nice .22 plinking/target pistol (Mk.II,Buckmark)
9. A nice, old muzzleloader (Enfield or somethin')

Spaceman Spiff
March 9, 2012, 03:46 AM
Thanks for the replies. I'm a little surprised by the choices of guns. I guess I was expecting some replies with guns that were a little more unusual, exotic, whatever. The suggestions so far seem pretty mainstream.
the suggestions are mainstream because for a raffle you want to have a prize that would appeal to the greatest number of eyeballs that come across your flyer or email...marketing 101 stuff...

kenken
March 10, 2012, 10:02 AM
I am in the volunteer fire dept here in my home town also. We do a fund raiser 2 times a year and have outstanding results with our gun raffles. In fact we are known for our gun raffles. We always have at least 30 guns for a one night gathering at the fire house. We cook and sell plate lunches and play bingo for prizes and sell raffle tickets. We always get a few shotguns(870's and such), some leveraction(Henry 22's), some bolt action rimfires, AR's, pistols(smith&wesson,ruger) and we always have some real nice centerfire rifles such as a Browning, Winchester and Thompson Center. We have even had some crossbows.

We even have 2 guns that are designated for the kids. No purchase necessary. Every kid that comes gets a ticket and at the end of the night when everyone is getting excited we call out one boys ticket number and one girls ticket number. Each one gets a little 22 such as a cricket. In october we gave away 2 little shotguns. One was camo and the other was black.

The one we had in October of 2011 we broke 80k in one night counting everything. The people here really support the fire dept.

kenken

wyohome
March 10, 2012, 04:49 PM
Pairs of things are ticket sellers. A pair of 870s (12 & 20), a Ruger Redhawk and Blackhawk, a pair of 22 rifles that could be given to grandkids, etc. Except for the resale value, I have no use for a black rifle or a Garand. I would buy tickets for nice common weapons that I could gift...or at least convince my wife that was the plan. ;)

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 10, 2012, 04:58 PM
KenKen, that whole evening sounds VERY awesome!

oneounceload
March 10, 2012, 06:33 PM
Just about anything that isn't some cheap Ruger, Mossberg, Maverick, Remington, basic type of gun. A nice Browning or Beretta shotgun, a Smith revolver, or one of the name brand 1911's or even a decent polymer "package" with extra mags, etc......

Monkeyleg
March 10, 2012, 07:21 PM
Okay, let's change this a bit. Don't think about what audience this is playing to, or who might be buying, or how diverse a group it may be. Just think about you and only you.

If there was a raffle you were going to participate in, what would you love to have the chance of winning? Don't think about anyone else, just think about you. A 1970's vintage Colt .38 Super? A Daniels Defense M4? A pre-'64 Winchester model 70?

What would get you to buy handfuls of tickets?

AK_Maine_iac
March 10, 2012, 07:40 PM
A Daniels Defense M4? A pre-'64 Winchester model 70?

Both would be high on MY LIST. I will save you some time. Where do i send the ticket money and you can send me one of each.:eek: I WON I WON

conrad427
March 10, 2012, 07:40 PM
a ruger no.1 in 220 swift. a real pimp gun nickel pearl .38 super
anything in .264 or .221 and a win mod 71 would be a raffle i would buy tickets for even if PETA was putting it on.

BIGGBAY90
March 10, 2012, 07:53 PM
Some type of .45 cal hg

dubya450
March 25, 2012, 09:17 AM
That's easy! A new FN made Winchester model 70 supergrade in a common caliber like 270 or 30-06. Its a well known and popular hunting rifle and the supergrade is an eye catcher, high grade walnut stock and deeply polished blue. Personally I know just about every one of my buddies and I would buy multiple tix for a nice hunting rifle like that.

dubya450
March 25, 2012, 09:22 AM
I'm not sure about all the various calibers being stated but I think you'd do best with a more common caliber that is generally well known no matter what gun you decide on. .22 lr, 9mm, 45 acp, 270 win, 30-06 Springfield. Or any of the shotguns. Just my 2

Manny
March 26, 2012, 07:55 AM
I'll tell you what doesn't interest me, when they put in lots of low end cheap guns. A local volunteer fire dept has hosted a steak fry/gun raffle for years and always had some nice quality guns and maybe a few lower end but still nice guns in the mix. The last couple years it's pretty much exclusively low end stuff and now TV's. Not interested at all anymore.

tarosean
March 26, 2012, 08:25 AM
last two raffles i entered.

first raffle was
1 stoger coach gun, 2 ruger vaqueros 357 and 44, and a Mares leg with large hoop.
the other was
Rem 700 SPS 7mm with Leopold

dubya450
April 9, 2012, 12:40 AM
+1 manny
I feel the same way. A few guys at work sere selling tix for various gun raffles and each one has cheap, common guns that many people already have. Ruger 10/22, mossberg pump 12 gauge, cheap single shots, ect. Not that they are bad guns, just that they are too common and uninteresting.

doc2rn
April 9, 2012, 01:10 AM
A pre-'64 Winchester model 70, something that shoots 1 MOA at a grand, or a custom Ruger 77 MK II with the v-bolt configuration (not the screw in barrel)! I would definately get a fist full of tickets for that event!

WIKD
April 14, 2012, 11:50 AM
I guess as long as the price of the raffle ticket is reasonable and the gun is one I could not easily pick up whenever I wanted I would purchase a ticket for a wide variety of guns.
In this area it seems like the ones that do the best are concealable handguns from the little bit of research I did when we did a raffle.

Legionnaire
April 14, 2012, 02:36 PM
I'm with ThorinNNY. I'm not a big raffle guy. If I've decided to make a contribution to an organization, I'll play along regardless of what is being raffled. If I'm not in the mood to make a donation, no gun is going to tempt me into buying tickets.

Then again, I don't play the lottery, either.

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buck460XVR
April 14, 2012, 02:53 PM
Okay, let's change this a bit. Don't think about what audience this is playing to, or who might be buying, or how diverse a group it may be. Just think about you and only you.



What would get you to buy handfuls of tickets?

For me, if it's for a good cause and there are guns to be won, I'll donate regardless of what guns are to be given away. Most of the times these raffles include common household name guns like Remmie 870s, Mossy 500s, Ruger 10/22s and S&W L/N frame revolvers. If it's one of those banquets where you buy an arms length of tickets and put them in a bucket for a particular gun, I'll generally go for something I'd like to own, but generally wouldn't buy for myself....i.e. custom/semi-cutom 1911, PC revolver or high dollar SxS or O/U.

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
April 14, 2012, 03:06 PM
Heeeeey Monkeyleg, are you going to tell us what guns your raffle ends up with? :)
Didn't include it in my last posts, but that FNP 45 looks purty sweet

Tcruse
April 14, 2012, 04:48 PM
FN 5.7 pistol
Glock Gen 4 (let winner pick model)
Ruger SR1911

csa77
April 14, 2012, 09:40 PM
for me to buy alot of tickets it would have to be special. a fully engraved nickel plated smith or a uncommon mil surp like a nice lee metford,no1mk1,or arisaka type 44.

303tom
April 16, 2012, 08:42 AM
Keep it simple, the easiest firearm to purchase & transfer would be a bolt action rifle or a shotgun............It really don`t matter I always buy a handful of tickets.

x_wrench
April 16, 2012, 07:25 PM
ANY and ALL! i am not a brand name or model specific person. i like many different makes and models of firearms. and most types as well. if there is a firearm raffle, and i have money in my wallet, i am in on it. i do not care if it is an ak-47, a Hi-Point 9mm, a Kimber bolt action, or a Holland and Holland double. i want them ALL. i just can not afford them all. now, at 55 years of age, is NOT a good time to realize that being a gun magazine writer may have been a better career choice!

B!ngo
April 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
Seems like, for the crowd you described, a well known, quality gun, with a classic U.S. label. I suspect I'll need some correcting on the last point at least but here goes:
1. A Colt or Springfield 1911 .45 ACP
2. Remington Versa-Max 12 gauge
3. Browning Buckmark .22 pistol
4. Ruger Scout Rifle .308
5. Henry Golden Boy 22LR Lever Action rifle
B

browningguy
April 16, 2012, 11:41 PM
We do quite a lot of these at shooting events for various oil and gas charities. The most liked seem to be higher end pieces, high quality AR's, pistols or shotguns. For example a Franchi, Beretta or Benelli shotgun, high end 1911's, quality hunting rifles such as Sako. Basically things average Joes can't go out and buy every week.

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