Birthday shoot


March 8, 2012, 09:53 PM
Today is my 18th birthday, my mom asked me what I wanted to do today so I said we should go shoot up some of that ammo I've got. I sure had fun today! I fired about 550 rounds of bulk .22 LR plus a box of stingers, 50 rounds of my blackpowder .22s, about 7 or 8 cylinders from my .44 New Model Army, about 5 cylinders each from my NAA blackpowder mini revolvers, I had a bag of 60 balls for my .50 rifle and now the bag is empty! I shot them all, all of them!

I got my brother to shoot my New Model Army too, he was scared by it because I loaded it hot. But after he got over it he was loving shooting it! I need to get him to come with me more often!

I also got some longer shots in on a bad guy target at 100 yards. I loved the challenge, and managed to touch it a couple times with the .44 and the .50 muzzleloading rifle.
I even stretched out that Super Companion of mine to 100 yards. I was using smokeless powder and the supplied 30 grain bullets with a little lube and a Remington #11 cap. I outfitted mine for accuracy and actually touched the bad guy sized target at 100 yards two times. I don't know if God was just giving me a little surprise in the form of accuracy, but I'd like to think that I helped! Although I did outfit mine for the maximum accuracy achievable by a pistol like that with a rear sight and oversize grips. :neener:
I probably just "Forrest Gumped" that one.

All in all it was a good day, I finished off my Pyrodex (although I think they bought me more for my birthday) and I finished off more ammo than I probably should. I also got my brother and mother to enjoy the shooting sports, that's definitely a good thing! It sux being out of rimfire ammo though. But my college is near a Big 5, I can stock up on all the ammo I need now that I'm 18 and don't need my parents to help buy it. How delightful! I also saw another gun shop nearby, they had powder! I'm totally stocking up on some stuff I need! I love being able to buy what I need.


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DoubleDeuce 1
March 8, 2012, 09:56 PM
Happy Birthday! Enjoy your day. :cool:

March 8, 2012, 09:57 PM
Thank you!

March 8, 2012, 11:00 PM
Happy Birthday,Eli. Live long, prosper and MOST IMPORTANT continue to make loud booms and billowing clouds of smoke ! Thor

March 9, 2012, 01:34 AM
Thank you! Today was amazing. I feel like a lot of spiritually good things happened today as well, I feel closer to God actually. I almost had the opportunity to shoot a rabbit with my .44, that would have made such a great dinner! I need to go shoot dinner with my Remington New Model army sometime, I would love to have my handgun actually feed me dinner many times.

After we got home I opened presents with the family, I got nothing but shooting supplies and my very own rifle! :D I got a pound of Pyrodex, some really good hearing protection, blackpowder solvent, and a J.C. Higgins single shot .22 rifle sold by Sears. I kind of slipped them a hint the other night about that, it went something like me polishing it by the fire and really treating it well.

Then after that I went out and legally bought a pocket knife, a Zippo lighter, a lottery ticket, and a decent cigar. :) I'll post pictures of my new Freedom saver tomorrow!


March 9, 2012, 06:51 AM
WOW, congrats on a super fine birthday. Im happy everything went your way on your birthday. It sounds like you have a pretty tight nit family as well. Thats a wonderful thing also. Anyway, happy birthday sir!!

March 9, 2012, 08:55 AM
Congratulations and a Happy Birthday Levi! :p

March 9, 2012, 09:32 AM
Happy birthday!

Foto Joe
March 9, 2012, 11:16 AM

Keep up the good work. You're living a life that few people ever got the chance to, most teenage brains are damaged as you well know. As my grandfather used to tell me "enjoy your time as a kid, you'll miss it some day". I never understood what he meant until I was in my 40's. You on the other hand seem to be enjoying your youth, carry on and the rest of us will live vicariously through your adventures.

March 9, 2012, 02:07 PM
Oh, sorry. I thought I read Birthday Suit.

March 9, 2012, 02:12 PM
Thank you guys!

Well, here's my new smokepole! A J.C. Higgins single shot rifle.
I know it's not a sharps, I know it's not a Winchester, but it's the EXACT rifle that I have always wanted. I know I've got bigger guns that could kill anything on this continent, but I always wanted to have a single shot .22 given to me by my parents. Perhaps I have read too many novels, I read about that thing all the time it seems.

So now I've got something to shoot my homemade blackpowder .22 LR ammo with!


4v50 Gary
March 9, 2012, 02:15 PM
Happy Birthday. Today in history the USS Monitor fought the CSN Virginia at the historic battle of Hampton Roads. It was the first clash between ironclads. Also on this day legislation authorizing the raising of the French Foreign Legion was proposed. It was approved on the tenth.

March 9, 2012, 02:21 PM
Thank you! I like history!

March 9, 2012, 03:33 PM
happy bday! enjoy!
I am 30yrs older than you....mine is 3/7.

March 9, 2012, 07:04 PM
Happy Birthday, a day late.
I like the old .22 rifles a lot.
My first firearm was a 1940s Mossberg .22 semiauto that my grandfather gave me.

March 9, 2012, 07:19 PM
Thanks Jaymo!
Among the firearms we bought we also have an old Stevens single shot bolt action kid gun. I liked that one, but the action felt a little too "tinny" for my taste. It sounded like I was messing with some spoons when I worked the bolt. But it does shoot well, I have fired it many times. I chose the J.C. Higgins because it reminds me of the first gun that I ever shot. We were shooting paper targets and .22 spinners out at 100 yards, and I hit the berm most of the time as well. But I definitely loved shooting, and I guess I was hooked from there on. That might explain why I love shooting berms as a backstop, it's probably why I've got one in my backyard for CB .22s and airguns.


March 9, 2012, 11:38 PM
Happy (belated) Birthday Levi - sounds like you had the "perfect" celebration! I turned 50 less than two months ago (4 days less, to be exact); and I'm supremely jealous of your fun.

I MUST jump off-topic and ask about the "J.C. Higgins".... That knob on the back of the bolt; after sending the bolt home on a fresh unfired round, do you have to pull the knob back actually cock the piece? The reason that I ask is that it looks remarkably similar to the Remington 'Model 33' that I somehow "acquired" from person or location unknown. Seriously, I'm thinking that I was asked to "Be a pal and hold onto this for me"; but I can't for the life of me remember WHO it was or WHAT the circumstances were! :uhoh:

Regardless; my son Matthew found it in the back of the gunsafe and we've since been having a blast (no pun intended) with it! While the Model 33 was an inexspensively built "loss-leader" firearm, with very rudimentary sights; this particular example is very precise when firing the "milk-carton containing 1350 rounds" of Federal .22LR at nearly all ranges. And the whole "pull back the bolt to expel the spent brass, ease in another round, send the bolt home, pull back on the knob and caress the trigger" manual of arms tends to set one back to a 'less stressful time"; and the targets reflect this. We're both consistantly more accurate with it than when firing "our own" .22's - whether his Ruger 10/22 or my own "Glenfield 75" (a Marlin, marked up in K-Mart livery) autoloaders. Both rifles were part of a long-standing tradition in my family; the Marlin was my 12th birthday present from my Dad; the Ruger was my 12th birthday present to my son.
But this little Remington is such a pleasure to shoot; both Matt and I fear for the day when somebody shows up and asks for his/her .22 back! It's just that much fun to shoot. I hope your "J.C.Higgins" turns out to give you much the same joy.

Acorn Mush
March 10, 2012, 02:15 AM
Happy Birthday Levi, and here's to many more. :D

Reading about you loading .22LR ammo with black powder reminded me of an old friend who many years ago related stories to me about him and his brothers as kids on their farm shooting black powder .22 shorts. I believe he said his dad bought them through the NRA, for 5 cents a box. But, that was a looooong time ago.

March 10, 2012, 04:40 PM
Wow! What a righteous 18th birthday! Sounds like it really couldn't have been any better! I like how you used all your pyrodex, and then received more as a b-day present :)

I'm really glad there are other younger guys out there who really enjoy black powder shooting! I've been shooting since the age of 12, but when I started owning my own guns I started with nothing but cap n' balls for the first two years. I do not regret that one bit, gave me much appreciation for all elements of shooting.

happy belated!

March 10, 2012, 05:40 PM
Thank you! I'm really glad I got more powder, I finished a can and then got a fresh can afterward! What's not to like? I also made a little bullet keeper that I tied to the trigger guard. I took a piece of leather and cut .22-ish sized holes in it, then put a 12 inch leather thong on it to loop onto my gun. It holds seven rounds, the rim stops them from sliding out, but you can easily pull off a round without much force. I liked having ammo at my fingertips, it's so convenient!

I definitely am enjoying that new .22 rifle I got. I made some CB ammo from primed .22 LR hulls and Crossman .22 airgun pellets. They are so darn quiet I hardly can hear anything but the firing pin. First round I shot I wondered if I even put a fresh round in, I racked the bolt and a smoking shell came out. I pulled the bolt and looked in the barrel and saw no pellet. It's for sure a good way to save money, I can convert cheap bulk ammo into .22 CB's without any problems. It's so easy a child could do it!

Something is relaxing about a single shot .22 that you have to cock. I like that relaxation factor, for me it's more enjoyable than a 10/22. I love how simple it is as well, it's real easy to clean and maintain. I've always been a slow shooter, my entire family likes repeaters or semi-autos. I like old single shot rifles and black powder smoke. It's an American thing!


March 10, 2012, 09:05 PM
Levi i have been traveling all week for work. Just saw i missed your birthday. Well Happy Birthday. Sounds like you had a good birthday

March 10, 2012, 10:17 PM
Congrats on reaching 18! Don't forget to register to vote.

March 10, 2012, 10:26 PM
Happy Birthady and many more.

March 10, 2012, 10:44 PM
he has to register for the draft too

Head down to your local post office. usually on the back counter there is a selective service card. you fill it out and turn it in. in about a month you will get some card in the mail. it seems like nothing because it would take an act of congress to bring back the draft however. depending on what you do in life you may need that stupid card. I know about 20 years ago when my brother joined LASD los angeles sheriff department he needed that stupid card. Spent all weekend looking for it at our parents house. So depending on what you do in your future sometimes you will need that card.

March 10, 2012, 11:05 PM
Thanks guys!

Don't think for a second that I'm going to hesitate to register to vote, I'm taking FULL advantage of my God-given right to vote now. I'm going to help vote the b******s out, California really needs it. I'm going to go and register for the draft ASAP as well! Next week I'm buying a good shotgun too, I got birthday cash. And what I have left over from the shotgun will go to the NRA. Believe me, I'm taking full advantage of this.

Funny story, yesterday I was at Rite Aid pharmacy, I was going to get a new wick for my Zippo. Now you wouldn't believe this, but they wouldn't sell me a THREE INCH PIECE OF STRING too small to garrote a mouse with. The lady at the counter said it was tobacciana, and that I can't buy it because I didn't have my I.D. with me.

Lighter fluid I can kinda understand, you don't want kids setting themselves on fire. They'll do that, I've seen it before. They apparently like to put lighter fluid on their arms, hands, tongue, or shoes and light it up while trying to put it out. It's apparently hip with the kids to do that, and it's probably a side effect of the marihuanna poisoning or something.

But I still can't get over how I can't buy a three inch piece of string without an I.D., what kind of spiritually dead human being would actually put an age limit on a three inch piece of string. WOW! That just ain't right. I didn't get carded for that knife, Zippo, lottery ticket, or cigar I bought the other night, but then again it was one of those Mexican markets, not sure if other states have them, it's probably just a ********** thing.

Anyway, sorry if I tend to go on rants sometimes!


March 11, 2012, 04:44 AM
Rant-on Levi, that is silly indeed!

March 11, 2012, 11:29 AM
They wouldn't sell you a wick for your Zippo??? My son Matt -still a little over a month from his 16th birthday- has ALREADY bought two Zippo's (and he has no interest in smoking) and YOU COULDN'T BUY A WICK WITHOUT YOUR ID??????

I must apologise, but that, sadly, is funny. But I can see the humor only because the Mighty Colorado River (5 yards wide and an average of 4 feet deep in my area) separates me from the Police State in which you live. If I had to live in The Pipple's Repooblick of Czechoslofornia, two miles north of my present home; I'd probably be very frustrated, indeed.

March 11, 2012, 11:52 AM
Head down to your local post office. usually on the back counter there is a selective service card. you fill it out and turn it in. in about a month you will get some card in the mail. it seems like nothing because it would take an act of congress to bring back the draft however. depending on what you do in life you may need that stupid card. I know about 20 years ago when my brother joined LASD los angeles sheriff department he needed that stupid card. Spent all weekend looking for it at our parents house. So depending on what you do in your future sometimes you will need that card.

March 11, 2012, 04:08 PM
Sure thing Scrat!

Yumakid, you've got every right to laugh. The joke is on the chimps who decided minors are too irresponsible to buy a three inch piece of string. I collect Zippos, so if I wanted to get that little piece of string to do something dastardly with then I'd just get some pliers and pull it out of one of my newer lighters.

Today I was feeling a bit goofy so I messed with that cashier, I went to the Rite Aid and then headed to the craft section and got a bag of pipe cleaners. The lady rung me up and didn't ask for my I.D. or anything, then after I got my change and the pipe cleaners I say "You know what I'm going to use these for?" then she said "I dunno, arts and crafts or something?" so then I say "I'm going to use these to clean my tobacco pipe, it smokes wet and I'm going to remedy that! You saved me a trip to the tobacconist my friend!" :P It was funny as hell! She wouldn't sell me a three inch piece of string but I got her to sell me re-labeled pipe smoking paraphernalia. :D What kind of mentally lacking "save the children" state do I live in? I mean I'm tall and have facial hair, haven't shaved in weeks, obviously an adult, and they wouldn't sell me a three inch piece of string. WOW. I just don't understand it.

As I said teenagers often light parts of their body on fire with the fluid for Zippos, and that's pretty brain dead if you ask me. I can understand lighter fluid. I can understand booze, I can understand tobacco products and cigarettes, I can even understand handguns up until the age of 18.

But what really gets me is someone ACTUALLY said to themselves "Hmm, how can we keep teenagers from smoking and setting stuff on fire? Oooh, I know! We'll keep them from buying a new wick for their zippo!"

And the funny part, when I was 10 or so I'd go in there and buy pocket knives ALL THE TIME with no ID whatsoever. I bought a ten inch blade fillet knife, no I.D. whatsoever. Can you actually believe that? It's like I'm dealing with chimpanzees here!


March 11, 2012, 09:13 PM
Failed to mention, that lottery ticket was a winner! I won another lottery ticket! Sadly that one wasn't a winner, fun nonetheless! I don't think I'll be doing that again, but instead I will be getting myself some more ammo! :D

Foto Joe
March 11, 2012, 10:12 PM
I attribute this quote to Thomas Jefferson, I could be wrong.

When asked about the possibility of a national lottery to pay the costs of the Revolutionary War the response was...

A lottery, a tax on the willing.

March 11, 2012, 10:47 PM
Many projects were funded by local lotteries including as early as 1612 to help fund the building of Jamestown, Virginia.
In 1748, Ben Franklin organized a lottery to fund a battery of cannons to protect Philadelphia.
And George Washington purchased the first Federal lottery ticket in 1793 to help fund the building of Federal City in the District of Columbia, and its record is a treasured item in the Library of Congress.

March 11, 2012, 11:53 PM
Well that's definitely one way to think of it, I have decided I'd rather spend my money on something that I know I will get instead of something that I've only got a slight chance of getting. Cool link Arcticap! I enjoyed reading that! I knew lotteries were old, but I didn't know they had them in the founding days! Then again I think they mention having them in the Bible, they call it "casting lots"

I just found out that I was born on the same day as Elmer Kieth, March 8th. Perhaps that explains why I like my handguns to be large and powerful!


March 12, 2012, 12:29 AM
Happy Birthday Levi. I also started young and never regretted or looked back.

March 12, 2012, 01:30 AM
Thank you! You started what young?

March 12, 2012, 08:20 AM
I started young too. Being born was such a shock to me, that I couldn't walk or talk for more than a year! :what:

March 12, 2012, 01:04 PM
Yep. We all were born with this terminal condition called life! Haha!

March 12, 2012, 02:41 PM
You get carded for a knife? Is that a California thing? The only time I was questioned about buying a blade was when I was ten and wanted to buy a shuriken. It was just like that episode of Southpark. The old guy at the knife store counter asked me if it was okay with my mom. I had my grandmother tell him it was okay to sell me anything I wanted. From then on I was able to buy as throwing stars, Case knives, and even nunchucks. :)
They don't regulate rolling papers, pipe cleaners or any of that stuff in MS, just cigarettes, and that depends on what shop you go to.

March 12, 2012, 08:16 PM
They didn't card me, it was just one of those markets that is run by foreign people. They'll sell you anything if you don't have an I.D. I had mine, but they didn't card me for the stuff. But then again they know me, they are fine if I buy stuff as long as it's not... well... adult magazines or alcohol. Heck I buy lighter fluid, flints, knives, matches, etc. from them without problems, I have ever since I was 14 without any problems.

I don't think that the folks at Rite Aid would sell me the pipe cleaners behind the counter next to the tobacco pipes without my I.D. but the craft kind of pipe cleaners are what I have always used for cleaning a pipe and they don't create any problems. I've kinda gotten back into pipes lately after a long dry spell, I kinda go through times where I do and times where I don't.

I know other states are pretty relaxed and don't regulate things as harshly as Kali does, but here in ********** we don't sell pipe cleaners, pipe tools, lighter flints, lighter wicks, empty match cases, or anything of that nature to anyone who doesn't have an I.D. with them. In ********** we check your I.D. if you buy say... a cleaning jag for a .22 rifle. They did with me when I was at Big 5 sporting goods today, and we all know that a gun won't fire if you don't run a cleaning jag down the bore first. How many shootings do you think they've prevented? How many guns do you think haven't been cleaned and have fired thousands of shots?


March 13, 2012, 01:30 AM
Happy belated birthday busy! Just be glad you're an older lookin feller. I'm 25 and I get carded everytime from ammo to beer to lottery tickets to cigarrettes.

March 13, 2012, 09:59 AM
Levi, sorry to miss the birthday; you have my belated congratulations. I have enjoyed reading your enthusiastic posts about all things firearms related. I grew up in the city and my family wasn't into guns, so I didn't get started until my early 30s, after marrying a fine woman whose Dad is a great outdoorsman. He turned me on to hunting, my wife bought me my first gun (a Mossberg 500 combo) and the rest, as they say, is history.

May you enjoy many more years of fun and safe shooting.

March 13, 2012, 02:47 PM
I meant, does California require a person to be carded for a knife? Are minors not allowed to buy knives in California?

March 13, 2012, 04:18 PM
Minors technically aren't supposed to buy knives in Kommiefornia. The law is that you have to be 18 to buy one, but then again I don't know any minors that don't have knives. I'm pretty sure that a minor can legally own/carry a knife. Then again some stores will sell minors a knife, and some gas stations won't card you for lighters and such. It's all very confusing.

It reminds me of that scene from "That 70's show"

Knives and lighters just aren't staying out of the hands of kids.


March 13, 2012, 04:51 PM
In many municipalities the length of the blade is the criterion that determines if and who may carry a knife, concealed or otherwise. Generally that's 6 inches, i believe, but I've heard of places that set it at 4 inches.

March 13, 2012, 06:10 PM
I'm not sure of the California legal length, all my friends say that if it's less than the width of your palm then you can carry it. I asked a police officer last week and he said that as long as it folds you are legal to carry it. I guess since that's the case my 9" stiletto is fine but my 2" blade patch knife ain't good for nothin' but killing.

March 14, 2012, 03:19 AM
15 or so years ago we went to the St. Louis Arch and visited the museum of the Western Plains underneath. They had a metal detector, so I had to hand the park rangers my pocket knife. They checked the blade against a gauge taped to the counter to see if it was longer than 4". It was a Spyderco with a 3.75" blade, so they handed it back. I guess they would have busted me for having a concealed weapon if it were longer. That was 15 years ago, pre-9/11.

MS state law allows us to have up to a 4" blade on a folding knife, any longer than that and we're carrying a concealed dangerous weapon, unless we have a CCW permit. Swichblades are forbidden, there's not even a medical excuse clause, but spring assisted knives and knives with assisted opening is legal, which makes no sense, but that's the law. Thanks, Henry Fonda.

We're allowed to carry sheath knives of any sort while hunting or camping or at appropriate sporting events. Otherwise, we're not allowed to carry a "Bowie knife", "dirk" or "butcher knife" on our persons, but they don't have a legal definition of those things. Would I be busted with a chef's knife, since they're not carving knives? Swords aren't mentioned (other than sword canes), but I don't want to try my luck. They can't wait to use their shiny new Tasers on folks.

There's no regulations at all about pipe cleaners, rolling papers, or cigarette lighters. Propane refill cans are regulated because of huffing, same as crazy glue and spray paint. Walmart is all politically correct, they self-regulate certain air rifle and paintball gun items, anyone can buy bb's, pellets, and paintballs, but the guns and CO2 cartridges are for 16 and up.

A bright spot to it all is our high school has an archery team and the kids are allowed to bring their bows and arrows to the principal's office for practice.

I graduated HS in '88, back then, they had a designated smoking area outside where teachers and students both could smoke, if the student had a permission slip from their parents. It was that or keep having the toilets wrecked by students discarding their butts in the tank. When I was in middle school, the prinicipal would be preceded by a cloud of cigar smoke when he made the rounds. The teachers would smell him coming, so they would make sure we were at our best behavior in case he popped in for a visit.:)

Years ago, they hired a cop who had just moved here from California, he pulled his pistol on some kids and made them drop to the ground while he called for backup because one of them had a pocketknife. They fired him because he didn't know how things were done around here. :)

March 14, 2012, 06:40 AM
They held archery practice in the principal's office?

March 14, 2012, 09:32 PM
Well that's cool that there was an archery team in high school! I was in 4H years ago as a freshman, I did archery and shotgun shooting. It sure is good to know that the second amendment is still a part of youth's lives. Guns keep kids out of trouble, I remember how after I got my first firearm I became more mature and responsible. My parents allowing me to have my own firearm was probably one of the greatest things that they have ever done for me. Someday when I have kids I will buy my son/daughter their very first rifle before they get to their teen years, I don't want them to hang with the wrong people. Once a kid gets into the hunting/fishing crowd it's hard to leave. That is why I will invest in a boy's rifle to give to my kid(s) when they become old enough, I'm not holding out until they are 16 or so like my parents did.

I'm not sure, but I believe that you can carry a fixed blade in Kali, but it has to be visible and not hidden by your jacket or something. It's mighty tempting to stick my bowie knife on my belt when I'm riding the buss home from the college. That buss is full of freaks, I don't want to be seen as a potential victim but more as a sheepdog. There's just something about that buss, it smells like booze, wet dog, and sweat and everybody looks like they wanted to hurt me. I carry a blade, but still... not nearly enough. My New Model Army, now that's more like it. Too bad ********** doesn't accept the constitution. If they did I'd be traveling with a big iron on my hip.

The smoking zones are kinda funny at my college. Today I was puffing away at my homemade corncob pipe and sipping my coffee while there was another guy literally 10 feet away from me that got a ticket for smoking his death sticks. The cops can't say anything to you as long as you are 18 and on the other side of this wire fence or walking. I didn't like that guy too much either, he wore one of those baseball caps with the flattened out brim and the shiny stickers, and the baggy pants where the waistband is right at the kneecaps, and didn't enunciate when he spoke to that officer. And he kept looking over at me like I'm some kind of hillbilly for smoking a corncob pipe. Weirdos. They're everywhere.


4v50 Gary
March 14, 2012, 11:07 PM
Levi. I have watched as California degenerated from the Golden State to the Nanny State.

March 15, 2012, 12:11 AM
There are too many good reasons for me to to move, question is why haven't I hauled ass over to Arizona already?

You wouldn't believe this, but I ACTUALLY managed to have a peaceful and reasonable conversation with one of the occupy crybabies that infiltrated the campus. I just talked to him and wrote down what I heard into my notebook and reviewed those notes after the vein on my forehead stopped throbbing, after my blood pressure went down, and after I lost the complete urge to slap that European socialist senseless.

It seems like they think they can control socialism. It's like saying if you set one room ablaze in a house that you can only burn down that room and keep the entire house from burning. I hope that analogy makes sense. It's delusional, it's childish, and I hate it. There are very few things that I hate, but leftism is one of them. Just look what it did to the poor Golden State. So for now, I am going to study them. I feel the need to know my enemy well, inside and out. I'll try and record my findings and who knows, maybe I'll have enough someday to publish a book containing information on these disgusting creatures. We are overrun by them, it's worse than wild hogs.

After studying them I've noticed that it seems that if you want to know which direction the lefties say is to freedom and domestic tranquility, you'll get a compass rose. Maybe the mental disorder is bringing confusion upon them?

To arms in Freedom!

March 15, 2012, 01:12 PM
Argh, what I meant to say was, the kids in the high school archery team can bring their bows to school (in a case) and store them in the principal's office until practice. I'm not sure how they handle bus riders, I assume they keep their bow cases behind the bus driver's seat until they get to school. If they're in a shooting team, a minor can transport a gun (normally, under 18 you have to be with adult supervision.)

In MS, college students aren't allowed to carry knives, which is complete BS because visitors to a school aren't regulated. We can carry handguns and unloaded long guns in our vehicles, unless we make a stop at any school (dropping your kids off counts as transportation, but don't go to a parent-teacher conference with a (visible) gun in your car).

The other day, I helped with a 4H shooting program. This Saturday is going to be our first CMP first shots and practice match. Soon we'll be setting up Scholastic Steel Challenge and we'll be doing CMP muzzle loading and Tactical .22's. :) We're trying to get enough kids together to do a Junior IDPA team.

March 16, 2012, 03:42 PM
They do tactical stuff in 4H? I had no idea of that! I think more kids need to get into the shooting sports despite what the media says about firearms. I think that if a kid grows up shooting and hunting and fishing they are way less likely to fall into the brain damaged teenager crowd. It's silly that we've got so many problems in society, when they can be prevented with good discipline and responsible marksmanship training at a young age.

You are doing society tremendously good things by teaching kids how to shoot, the more kids learn marksmanship and gun safety at a young age the less gang-bangers we'll have later on! :) And that also means that we might just have more hunters and fishermen, more policemen and women who know of and defend the second amendment. I think I need to volunteer with the 4H shooting sports, that would be kinda fun to teach rifle, shotgun, and muzzleloading marksmanship to the younger generation!


March 18, 2012, 02:19 PM
sorry I missed your birthday, I just now noticed!The first .22 I ever owned was a JC Higgins just like yours...enjoy!

March 18, 2012, 04:17 PM
Thanks buddy!

I just sighted this baby in, and at 7 yards I can put em' all in the same hole! Not really that impressive, but still it's a awesome .22 rifle that I'm holding onto for my entire life. I don't care that it's an inexpensive Sears rifle, it's my rifle and I love it! :)

I also bored out two holes behind the butt plate, I can stick an extra 8 rounds in there in case I am in a situation where I really need ammo. All I need to do it unscrew one of the screws in the butt plate with a coin or something and slide it to the side for some extra ammo.

I figure I could put high velocity shorts in one compartment so I can fit more rounds, and some CCI stingers in the other compartment. That way I can take a variety of game, if I come across a squirrel I can shoot him with the .22 short and if I come across a small hog I can shoot that with a stinger.

I'm going to the gun shop this week, I'll try and get some CB shorts so I can make a shooting video to show you guys. This is going to be fun!


March 18, 2012, 07:03 PM
Loved the photo of your JC Higgins .22! I have the same rifle. I got it in 1957 from my Dad when I was 6. Still have it and always will. Never felt undergunned in the woods with it either! Thanks for the memory trip!

March 18, 2012, 07:41 PM
You are welcome!

A good .22 rifle and a good .22 revolver (or two) is something every household in America should have handy. They are too affordable not to have and the ammo is super-cheap.

I think this J.C. Higgins is be far one of the coolest .22s I have ever seen. It reminds me of the first rifle (or firearm for that matter) besides a BB gun that I shot on that morning I got hooked.

It is simple, rugged, old, and made in America. What's not to love?


March 20, 2012, 10:51 PM
I've been thinking I want to pick up some more ammo, I'm getting low on that Winchester Super X stuff that I bought 1000 rounds of in February.

One question, do you guys think I could safely shoot CCI Stingers with this? I mean the bolt action is a pretty strong design, I don't see why not. This gun is old but it's definitely safe enough to fire and has fired hundreds of high velocity Winchester Super X rounds.

March 21, 2012, 03:46 AM
Stingers are usually not a problem as long as the bolt closes okay. Although some really dedicated Stinger shooters have special barrels with a slower twist rate.

March 21, 2012, 08:04 AM

Stingers will be just fine.

March 21, 2012, 03:17 PM
Thanks for the info guys! I'm glad they'll be safe enough to shoot with my gun. Isn't the bullet about the same weight as a .22 short bullet? My gun shoots shorts accurately, not as accurately as a regular .22 LR bullet but still accurate enough for killing cans. I have also shot my .22s loaded with Triple Seven FFFG, those have a 30 grain bullet at about 1000 FPS and I have been able to put them in the same hole. I sure wish I knew the twist rate of my gun, is there a way to find out the twist that a specific gun has?


March 21, 2012, 03:58 PM
Put a snug fitting cleaning patch on a jag. Insert into rifling from the muzzle. With a marker, put a line parallel to the bore on the top of the cleaning rod near the handle end and a line perpendicular to the bore at the muzzle. Slowly push the rod into the bore while watching the mark near the handle. When it makes one revolution, stop and make another mark at the muzzle. now extract the cleaning rod and patch. Measure the distance between the two muzzle marks. That is your twist. It will be something like 1 turn in 16 inches for a .22 RF. Simple, eh?

March 21, 2012, 04:36 PM
Thanks buddy! I just measured my twist rate, it's 1/16" twist. That should be good enough for Stingers and shorts I'd imagine.

I am going to pick up a box of those .22 CB shorts CCI makes, I got some for Christmas and burned through them like crazy. They are so quiet I can use them as parlor loads! I wish I could buy them in bulk, they are great quiet plinking ammo! Best part is that I can get my brother shooting by telling him I've got some "silent bullets" and that perks his attention.


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