Really? A double barrel 1911? Really?


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Rockfish61
March 10, 2012, 10:44 AM
Well I am not sure about this yet, but it looks like they really are going to make this. The questions are just to many to put here so Ill leave it to THR, WOW, just WOW?

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/03/09/its-real-the-double-barrel-arsenal-1911/

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eldon519
March 10, 2012, 10:57 AM
Tribute or abomination? May have some collector value some day though...

Wishoot
March 10, 2012, 10:59 AM
Ugh.

jim243
March 10, 2012, 11:01 AM
It's for the guy that loves his double barrel shotgun. (LOL)

petrey10
March 10, 2012, 11:04 AM
Thats dumb

MachIVshooter
March 10, 2012, 11:06 AM
It's for the guy that loves his double barrel shotgun.

It's for somebody.

Definitely not me, though :barf:

Rockfish61
March 10, 2012, 11:14 AM
Well I am going to try and be objective so: My first comment is that it has NFA written all over it. One trigger pull=multiple rounds.

Odd Job
March 10, 2012, 11:15 AM
It won't be ideal for IWB carry...

19-3Ben
March 10, 2012, 11:16 AM
I can't imagine it balancing or pointing naturally, but I think the idea is really neat and I think the gun is just plain cool. Instant doubletaps!

MachIVshooter
March 10, 2012, 11:16 AM
My first comment is that it has NFA written all over it. One trigger pull=multiple rounds.

If the two triggers function independently, it would not be title II.

19-3Ben
March 10, 2012, 11:19 AM
My first comment is that it has NFA written all over it. One trigger pull=multiple rounds.

But but really because it has two separate triggers. It looks like it's two separate guns with separate guts inside. Sure the frames are welded together so it is only one gun. But if it has two triggers, each one for independently operating mechanisms how is that any different than a double triggered SXS shotgun?

MrCleanOK
March 10, 2012, 11:24 AM
Because either trigger will operate the single hammer, and the gun has a single slide. There is no way to fire the barrels sequentially.

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Lawdawg45
March 10, 2012, 11:33 AM
File this one under "Taurus Judge Crap-like":rolleyes:

LD

M2 Carbine
March 10, 2012, 11:33 AM
I'm a sucker for te unusual but I don't think I want one of these.

BamAlmighty
March 10, 2012, 11:45 AM
just because you can build it, doesn't mean you should...

Manson
March 10, 2012, 11:56 AM
Just plain ugly. In this tribute to the 1911 they took most of what is so good about them and destroyed it. Balance, feel, and beauty aren't even an afterthought.

Rockfish61
March 10, 2012, 11:57 AM
Here is a Video LINK!

http://youtu.be/BM-DGaNmtA0

jerkface11
March 10, 2012, 12:04 PM
It finally answers the question of "which is better in .45acp hardball or hollow points"

Pyro
March 10, 2012, 12:08 PM
That's pretty cool.
You can carry JHP's on one side and FMJ on the other.

Nushif
March 10, 2012, 12:13 PM
I love how everyone and their mom is poo-pooing what is basically a gunsmith's gee-whiz project. Have none of you ever just built something because you could?

scaatylobo
March 10, 2012, 12:25 PM
I was impressed and if all I had was a pistol - that is the one I want in a real fight.

Too bad he had to use gloves to shoot it.

Guess an ankle rig model is out of the question.

But imagine that your in a world of hurt and that is your 'backup' gun.

Bet you would feel a bit confident.

During the infamous "Miami Shootout" if an agent had that === he would have been VERY happy.

forindooruseonly
March 10, 2012, 12:48 PM
I wonder how well the two barrels are regulated?

adobewalls
March 10, 2012, 12:50 PM
How about side-by-side Madsen M-50 submachine guns?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Challenge_(1970_film)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hEwcanGim4

MachIVshooter
March 10, 2012, 01:00 PM
Because either trigger will operate the single hammer, and the gun has a single slide. There is no way to fire the barrels sequentially.

Ohhh, the hammers are connected. Didn't notice that before.

Yup, it's NFA.

Justin
March 10, 2012, 01:16 PM
This was the first thing that came to mind. (http://qkme.me/36j7kt)

I'd like to ask the membership's apology for my blatant use of a lame internet meme.

:D

JSpear
March 10, 2012, 01:37 PM
I find it interesting, I would like to shoot.

NacsMXer
March 10, 2012, 01:45 PM
I agree some need to lighten up. Yeah it's an abomination from a purist 1911 perspective, etc, etc.

Sometimes things need to be admired from a perspective of pure novelty, and this is one of them IMO. Firing two .45 ACP slugs in one BOOM, how is that not cool? Given an opportunity, don't tell me you wouldn't want to try that thing out haha.

Shytheed Dumas
March 10, 2012, 01:57 PM
Seems cheesy and completely pointless to me, especially considering what could only be a freakishly expensive price. I predict anyone wanting to buy one will be spending another $200 and 6 months on a tax stamp to boot.

On the lighter side, if it floats your boat and you got it to spend, then by all means have at it! ...and let me fire off a couple of rounds, if you don't mind. :)

Jaymo
March 10, 2012, 02:43 PM
Hmm, NFA or not. It does fire 2 rounds at once. But it fires them from 2 separate barrels using 2 separate firing pins.
I'd like to have one, just 'cuz.
Make a carbine out of it and it'd be sweet.
I'm not a fan of that Para Ord-esque "uberfett" grip frame. Too much like gripping a brick.

Manson
March 10, 2012, 02:45 PM
Not for me. Crap is crap no matter how much of it you pile it up.

Flintknapper
March 10, 2012, 03:23 PM
Love to see someone try to clear a double feed on that one. :D

I guess a Negligent Discharge would be "twice" as fun though.


Not for me. And somebody please skeletonize that hammer!

Wondering if ammunition needs to closely matched, I would think so.

OARNGESI
March 10, 2012, 06:16 PM
I want one

jk2008
March 10, 2012, 06:43 PM
Perhaps this is the start of a trend. At one time razors only had one blade, then some smart guy thought two would be better... now look what adorns our stores' shelves. :D

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 10, 2012, 06:44 PM
To the OP: THANK YOU! This just made my day.

Justin, that might be the best use of the Xibit meme I've ever witnessed... so +100!!!

+1 to the IWB comment too, my mind went there immediately as well x-D

If THAT's not a BBQ gun, I don't know what is! Better hope there's a range of sorts at said BBQ however, because EVERYONE (with large enough hands) is going to want to shoot it.

Holy moly, the grip does look somewhat awful to my hands, but I must say, that if I had the $$$, I would buy this in a heartbeat without hesitation! The laughs and strange reactions alone would be priceless! I happen to be a 1911-lover that has been in love with 1911s since long before I was (legally) old enough to drive, and I'm almost 30 now, so that could have something to do with it too. It just looks like a total hoot, and not something you see every day, or week, or year...

Practical? No way.
Hilarious and awesome? Yes

Feel free to send me one for a range report :D:evil:

DammitBoy
March 10, 2012, 06:50 PM
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/wp-content/blogs.dir/5/files/arsenal-second-century-1911/wdouble1.jpg

that is ugly

wickedsprint
March 10, 2012, 06:55 PM
It won't be ideal for IWB carry...

Maybe have half IWB and half OWB?? Ha!

dcarch
March 10, 2012, 07:22 PM
Oy. Looks like something I drew up once... when I was ten. I'll pass.

Tomcat47
March 10, 2012, 07:42 PM
Kinda like a Desert Eagle Abomination...........!


Where can I buy one........:evil:


This has Movie written all over it!


Die Hard 26....Or Final Total Recall......Oh man ...this thing and Kate Beckinsale....:what:


Well....not available on Gunbroker......:(

armoredman
March 10, 2012, 08:17 PM
I agree, it will definitely be some bad guys gun in Rambo 8;The Geriatric Years.
I can't imagine anyone with normal size hands wanting to shoot that puppy. On the other hand, aren't you glad he didn't do that with twin Beretta M9s?

Rockfish61
March 10, 2012, 08:25 PM
I wonder if firing one round will operate the slide or does it have to have two to function correctly? What if the loads were different, would it cause a malfunction? It will be interesting to see the disclaimers in the manual, Hey maybe the manual will be double size too?

Bob M.
March 10, 2012, 08:29 PM
Looks like something Capt. America would carry. :D

Demitrios
March 10, 2012, 08:40 PM
My question is how much will it cost? Is going to be double the cost of a single 1911-A1? Does that make it $700 to $900 or since it's a custom job will that make it upwards of $1200?

Tomcat47
March 10, 2012, 08:58 PM
Taurus will now come out with a double barrel 16 shot revolver!


(Not dissing Taurus mind you...but just wait til SHOT show!)

Rockfish61
March 10, 2012, 08:59 PM
Hmm, dissasembly looks strange, If you look at the barrel bushings they don't look like they will work correctly. One lefty and one righty?

TurkeyOak
March 10, 2012, 09:06 PM
Prettier than the tacticool Mossberg .30-30 but I dont see the value. The .45 is to be a one shot stopper, do you reallt need a double barrel?
I can see a double stack 15 round 1911, not this.

harqueb.us
March 10, 2012, 09:13 PM
Begin countdown until it starts appearing in movies.

MikeJackmin
March 10, 2012, 09:29 PM
I want one bad.

It's impractical, and it's going to be crazy-expensive, I'm sure, but I gotta say this was love at first sight for me.

hirundo82
March 10, 2012, 09:43 PM
I'll be shocked if this turns out to be anything more than a practical joke.

Tomcat47
March 10, 2012, 10:13 PM
....video link in post #17 would put very much doubt in my mind as it being a joke...?

I really do not get the double trigger set up however...it can not fire independent. So I suppose either or both triggers are same mechanism.

Beretta M9 Double Barrel....:what: 30 rounds.....2 Mags! 4 Inch wide Grip!
Definitely not for the small handed people....LOL

Ranger30-06
March 10, 2012, 11:00 PM
I actually think it's kinda neat... It'll probably be several times outside of my price range and nothing more than a range toy, so I'll probably never wind up with one.

Frozen North
March 10, 2012, 11:07 PM
That is not a handgun, it's a handsgun...

TennJed
March 10, 2012, 11:59 PM
I have never owned a derringer, but aren't there some that are double barreled with one hammer? Why would this be NFA and not the derringers?

RedAlert
March 11, 2012, 12:25 AM
I imagine it will have a fairly short lifespan. There is bound to be some variation in primer timing so you will have one round firing before the other. Granted it will be a minute difference but it will have one side shooting before the other and will experience some off balanced loads on the gun. I suspect rapid wearing.

DRZinn
March 11, 2012, 04:54 AM
TWO 1911's! (http://www.arsenalfirearms.com/products/af-2011-a1-double-barrel-pistol)

1911Tuner
March 11, 2012, 06:00 AM
Mall ninjas everywhere are drooling like a Redbone Hound that chomped down on a fat toad...secure in their beliefs that they finally have a weapon that will let them prevail in a wild firefight with terrorists or biker gangs that could take over their towns at any moment. What a glorious day that will be as the bodies are stacked like cordwood, and buxom women will fairly swoon as they emerge from the carnage and search for more targets...steely-eyed and determined...resolved to rid the gentle folk of the threat.

"What is it for?"

Why...to sell, of course!

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 11, 2012, 06:14 AM
Awesome link, but there is a whole thread already going-on about it in the semi-auto subforum :)

DRZinn
March 11, 2012, 06:29 AM
D'OH!

DRZinn
March 11, 2012, 06:32 AM
I'd even carry one!



































(from the truck to the shooting bench)

MyGreenGuns
March 11, 2012, 06:49 AM
All of these people having problems keeping their 1911 in firing order and you're gonna add another barrel to it?

I have fat hands so I could probably hang on to this big fella.

I'd buy one before I bought a Glock. :p

TG13
March 11, 2012, 07:08 AM
The AF2011-A1 ("Twenty Eleven" for aficionados) can be ordered either with 2 independent triggers and one sear group (left or right, with user-interchangeability for right or left operations) or with 2 triggers permanently joined and the choice of 1 or 2 sear groups.

the last paragraph in the video's description..

the problem is the option of firing both barrels with a single trigger pull..

if you have two independent triggers and two sears, there shouldn't be a problem in owning this.. i.e. it's two 1911s fused.. and you'd be able to fire both barrels pulling on two separate triggers..

to each his own.. i guess...

Rockfish61
March 11, 2012, 07:23 AM
Almost a truly ambidextrous firearm, but they forgot about the ambi-safety :what:

I guess that would have been to much for the IWB holster

el Godfather
March 11, 2012, 08:07 AM
A novelty gun. Good for collectors to keep as conversation piece.

IlikeSA
March 11, 2012, 08:36 AM
It looks a hair thinner than a Glock ;-)

Carl N. Brown
March 11, 2012, 09:58 AM
Is it smaller than the .45 Hi Point? :evil:

I would not like to get into an argument with LE over whether that is or is not a machinegun in "the meaning given such term in section 5845(b) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845(b))." If you follow FEDERAL FIREARMS REGULATIONS REFERENCE GUIDE 2005 (atf-p5300-4.pdf)
Machinegun. Any weapon which shoots ... automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.
it would be very easy for that to be reported as a machinegun, whether it is or isn't technically.

I notice previous posters have noted my reservations about the effect of a misfire. I would hope that one barrel alone would not have the recoil impulse to unlock the slide.

Bottom line: I think it would be useless to me, but cool in a movie universe way: it looks like a prop from one of the "Underworld" or "Hellboy" movies.

EddieNFL
March 11, 2012, 10:35 AM
191a1

SundownRider
March 11, 2012, 11:35 AM
I'd rather have one in each hand. No thanks

jfrey
March 11, 2012, 11:39 AM
What's better than a 1911? Nothing. unless it's 2 1911's

jon86
March 11, 2012, 11:46 AM
What in the world is anyone supposed to do with that? :confused:

This is for people with too much money.

bds
March 11, 2012, 12:10 PM
What's better than a 1911?

Maybe 2011?

gym
March 11, 2012, 01:31 PM
Absolutelly nothing

Double Naught Spy
March 11, 2012, 01:46 PM
You know, that gun would pose some creative malfunction clearing challenges. I would guess that having a problem on one side would be harder to clear than with a single barrel 1911. Having a problem on both sides would be really hard to deal with. Having a different problem on each side would boggle the mind. Some types of problems would require an encyclopedia of knowledge to work through such as a double double feed and the dreaded chain malfunction where the actions of clearing the malfunction on one side then induce a malfunction on the other.

I think I will hold off my order until these have been beta tested for a few years.

jerkface11
March 11, 2012, 02:00 PM
I'm gonna wait till it comes out in 10mm.

Red Cent
March 11, 2012, 02:14 PM
http://www.arsenalfirearms.com/products/af-2011-a1-double-barrel-pistol

PoserHoser
March 11, 2012, 02:23 PM
This is what happens when someone has to much time and machinery on hand:evil:

ApacheCoTodd
March 11, 2012, 02:49 PM
I'm not gonna bash it as from just an engineering exercise point of view - it's mildly interesting but I do have a question regarding functioning.

If pulling one trigger only fires one round, does it not eject an un-fired round from the other side?

jim243
March 11, 2012, 03:36 PM
Might be a little hard to get extra mags for that beast. Nice collector item for the 1911 lover. Buy the way, I have put 31 rounds of 9mm down range in IDPA in 40 seconds with two mag changes and no points down (no misses). Doing it in 5 seconds would be a neat trick.

Not sure I could find a holster for it.
Jim

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 11, 2012, 03:43 PM
It's not a new concept you know...
http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/s_640x_480_3-tm-tfb.jpg
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/02/28/double-glock-full-auto-pistols/
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l246/TonyRumore/Machine%20Guns/Siamese16X.jpg

I'm guessing this would be a poor choice to market the 3822 to women.

Outlaw Man
March 11, 2012, 04:32 PM
My first thought is that my range day costs would double for the same amount of shooting time.

I'd like to try it, but it definitely falls solely in the novelty/collector category, IMO.

dev_null
March 11, 2012, 06:42 PM
Practical? No, but then how practical is the Desert Eagle? Looks like fun, if you've got the money.

I could definitely see this in the next John Woo flick...

joeq
March 11, 2012, 07:04 PM
I'm surprised Red Jacket isn't making it. It seems like a perfect project for Son's Of Guns. It would need a flare launcher for them to consider it though.

Odd Job
March 11, 2012, 07:17 PM
Well the next step is to suppress it!

Tomcat47
March 11, 2012, 08:01 PM
The Slide is one piece....It will not function independently! (Or should not function independently....:confused:)

No Matter how they set up the sear group....slide is one piece!

357 Terms
March 11, 2012, 08:25 PM
I wonder what the circumference of that grip is?

Looks like it would feel like gripping a baseball with a couple of barrels sticking outa it.

tekarra
March 11, 2012, 08:40 PM
I wonder how to remove the barrel bushings.

SlamFire1
March 11, 2012, 08:57 PM
What happens if you get a hangfire in one barrel?

I think this is one of those crazy concepts that if extensively tested, would be found wanting.

Got_Lead?
March 11, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oh P-lease.

flyskater
March 12, 2012, 01:13 AM
I think I'll pass on this one. I'll wait for the quad barrel 1911. ;)

918v
March 12, 2012, 01:47 AM
a Sig P210?

918v
March 12, 2012, 03:23 AM
I want a bioengineered 1911 that talks.

skt239
March 12, 2012, 07:28 AM
I think it's kinda funny that they are taking a serious, real world approach to selling it. No one is going to use one of these for defense, sell it as a gimmick and a range toy.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 12, 2012, 11:29 AM
I think it's kinda funny that they are taking a serious, real world approach to selling it. No one is going to use one of these for defense, sell it as a gimmick and a range toy.

It also looks as though you need both hands in order to shoot it. That is because it looks as though you have to pull both triggers at once and it takes two fingers to do that.

460Kodiak
March 12, 2012, 02:09 PM
If it had two independant slides, two hammers, and the barrels fired sequentially I could get into it. That would be kind of cool. But this sounds like something Kel Tech should be designing from scratch, not something a 1911 should be turned into.

Maybe PARA could double stack it and make it a 30 round 1911!!!!!!

If you weld two motorcycles together it does not become a car, or a good idea. If you weld two 1911's together is it now a 3822? I'll save my money for something else.

Also, with one front sight, isn't this thing going to be pretty inaccurate?

Will this produce two idiot marks?

The term "idot mark" could now be applied to anyone who actually buys one of these. That's a little harsh I know, but it's funny. I'm just joking for anyone who wants one of these. Don't be insulted.

mgregg85
March 12, 2012, 06:45 PM
Just when you thought Mossberg really jumped the shark, out of no where comes this crazy contraption. Being that the hammer(s?) are welded together, I think if you only pulled one trigger then the other trigger would hold the dual hammer(s?) in place.

I'd still take this over a Judge/Governor or Mossberg Chainsaw.

WaterH
March 12, 2012, 06:57 PM
and some people say Glocks are wide!

cyclopsshooter
March 12, 2012, 07:07 PM
Hell Boy should upgrade to this in the next movie. If it was <$500 Id buy one for giggles.

Jim K
March 12, 2012, 07:24 PM
I am pretty sure it would be a machinegun under the NFA because one pull of the trigger (doesn't matter which trigger) will fire two shots.

But the legal definition aside, it is really impossible to fire two shots at the same time; due to the primer speed, powder burn speed, etc., one of those two bullets will always be first. And that brings up questions about internal stresses in the gun plus torque in recoil and other interesting thoughts.

I doubt that the inventor is serious, but if he is, and really hopes for orders to come pouring in, I suggest he not give up his day job.

Jim

Whacked
March 12, 2012, 09:16 PM
I'd buy one

TYPE:
geometric lock, semiatutomatic double barrel hammer pistol
ACTION:
short recoil, Colt 1911-A1 system
CALIBERS:
.45 ACP, .38 Super Auto
TRIGGER:
double hammer with single spur, double independent or single trigger.
SAFETIES:
left lever safety (Colt 1911) with half cock hammer safety and grip safety
MAGAZINE:
2 single magazines, paired with single floor plate, 8+8 rounds
FRAME:
39NiCrMo steel machined from solid
SLIDE:
39NiCrMo steel machined from solid
SIGHTS:
interchangeable back, fixed or adjustable
TOTAL LENGTH:
220 mm
BARREL LENGTH:
125 mm
TOTAL HEIGHT:
145 mm
TOTAL WIDTH:
50 mm
TOTAL WEIGHT:
1.850 Grs. unloaded
SPECIAL FEATURES:
the pistol comes with dedica- ted security lock Ergal case, 1 year Warranty. Most internal components come as standard Colt 1911 replacement parts.

Sergei Mosin
March 12, 2012, 09:40 PM
Reminds me of the concept cars you see at auto shows. You know it's impractical. You know it's not street legal, and there's no way it ever would be. You know it's just an engineering and styling exercise, a way for the maker to show off. You know you'll never own one. You're not even sure if it would really work. But it's still kinda cool.

Rockfish61
March 12, 2012, 10:04 PM
If THAT's not a BBQ gun, I don't know what is! Better hope there's a range of sorts at said BBQ however, because EVERYONE (with large enough hands) is going to want to shoot it.
.


You could use these at that BBQ :evil:

Hossfly68
March 12, 2012, 11:15 PM
All I could think about when I saw it was, "Are we sure it wasn't built by RedJacket?"

theQman23
March 12, 2012, 11:22 PM
If this little sissy toy came in quad 50 BMG's I'd consider buying one. Until then it's just a novelty

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 13, 2012, 01:21 AM
RockFish, that is pretty ridiculous and awesome, the tacticool mug! why, you could mount a spare-beer attachment to one o' them rails, and perhaps a lighter to one of the others!

F-111 John
March 13, 2012, 10:53 AM
But the legal definition aside, it is really impossible to fire two shots at the same time; due to the primer speed, powder burn speed, etc., one of those two bullets will always be first. And that brings up questions about internal stresses in the gun plus torque in recoil and other interesting thoughts.
Did you watch the Youtube video in post #17? It seemed to function pretty normally to me.

evan price
March 13, 2012, 11:12 AM
How long until the villain in a thriller movie is carrying one?

Mp7
March 13, 2012, 11:17 AM
it does look gängstah .. though:

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/03/09/its-real-the-double-barrel-arsenal-1911/

crracer_712
March 13, 2012, 11:23 AM
Another article on a stainless double barrel

http://now.msn.com/now/0312-double-barreled-handgun.aspx

dcarch
March 13, 2012, 12:07 PM
^
Love the title on that article: "Gunmaker invents chilling double-barrel handgun."
Chilling?? :D More like laughable. The media makes me smile sometimes.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 13, 2012, 12:29 PM
I would rather have a two shot burst 1911, it would be like a double tap.

RockFish, that is pretty ridiculous and awesome, the tacticool mug! why, you could mount a spare-beer attachment to one o' them rails, and perhaps a lighter to one of the others!

You think that it's cool until you see the price tag....

Panzercat
March 13, 2012, 02:07 PM
"Quick, Jeb! Get the blowtorch! I gots a great idea!"

AJChenMPH
March 13, 2012, 02:27 PM
The look on Rib Pincus' face is priceless:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/416869_2764419672025_1303869778_32183617_1098313538_n.jpg

As for that mug: www.battlemug.com

Make sure you have a few spare M4 handles lying around. :)

Robert101
March 13, 2012, 05:11 PM
I want one in 45 and one in 10MM. The design probably came out in 2011 which is 100 years after the birth of the 1911. How appropriate is it to double the barrel every 100 years?

Panzercat
March 13, 2012, 05:49 PM
I want one in 45 and one in 10MM. The design probably came out in 2011 which is 100 years after the birth of the 1911. How appropriate is it to double the barrel every 100 years?
So in another hundred years we'll have a 4 barrel 1911? Yeesh.

Walkalong
March 13, 2012, 05:52 PM
It is very cool, but not very practical. I bet it would be expensive as well.

aHFo3
March 13, 2012, 06:28 PM
I was hoping for an over/under.

Twiki357
March 14, 2012, 02:19 AM
I haven't made up my mind if I should laugh, cry, or run. But, I don't think it would work for pocket carry. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-DGaNmtA0&feature=player_embedded

PabloJ
March 14, 2012, 03:47 AM
[QUOTE=Twiki357;8030791]I haven't made up my mind if I should laugh, cry, or run. But, I don't think it would work for pocket carry. :)

It would complement .375H&H double-barrel bolt action rifle quite nicely. The added weight makes that rifle very easy to shoot and we all know true gentlemen do not carry their rifles. I like that pistol whole lot.

Plan2Live
March 14, 2012, 08:38 AM
No. And when I saw the first link to that story last week I was surprised that Will from Sons of Guns wasn't behind it. Looks like the stupid, non-practical stuff he comes up with.

Ranger Roberts
March 14, 2012, 10:03 AM
It's an atrocity! Just another novelty gun. Plus, if both barrels fire at the same time, there would be NFA issues.

leadcounsel
March 14, 2012, 10:58 AM
Big, too bulky and heavy for carry, twice as many moving parts for issues/FTFs/FTEs, etc.

If one magazine fails to feed, of if one extractor FTRs, the weapon stops.

A resounding "No Thanks."

If you want more shots with a 1911, the easy answer is a larger magazine and learning to shoot faster and reload faster. This gun looks like it would take a lot of time to become comfortable with, with the bulk and double triggers.

BMcCoy
March 14, 2012, 11:18 AM
Ranger, I don't think there would be any NFA issues because it has 2 triggers. One pull of each trigger fires one round essentially.

Ben

shotgunjoel
March 14, 2012, 12:28 PM
I'd try it, but I wouldn't buy it. If I saw it for rent at a range I'd shoot it.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 14, 2012, 01:22 PM
If one magazine fails to feed, of if one extractor FTRs, the weapon stops.

Just like a single barrel 1911! But I do understand that there's a greater risk of that with two of each.

Nushif
March 14, 2012, 03:00 PM
I am still baffled by how many people are taking this seriously as a defensive or practical gun.
Have you never touched a toy your entire life?

Thorgrim
March 14, 2012, 03:07 PM
I wonder how to remove the barrel bushings.
Ha! That's the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw them rotate the pistol.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 14, 2012, 09:38 PM
I am still baffled by how many people are taking this seriously as a defensive or practical gun.
Have you never touched a toy your entire life?

Actually it looks like it's being marketed as such. If you look through the pictures with this pistol, you can see holsters and hollow points. Kinda implies that it would used for defensive use.

Nushif
March 14, 2012, 09:53 PM
Kinda implies that it would used for defensive use.

Or that it is the industry standard for photographing a 1911.

FIVETWOSEVEN
March 15, 2012, 12:16 AM
Or that it is the industry standard for photographing a 1911.

I wouldn't call this a 1911.

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 15, 2012, 06:06 AM
perhaps they shoulda called it the 3822

(my jaw hit my lap when I saw the price on that silly mug :eek:)

Carl N. Brown
March 15, 2012, 07:38 AM
...novelty more than anything else.

Would render training to double-tap unnecessary. Makes magazine changes twice as slow. Malfunction drills would be twice as much work.

http://now.msn.com/now/0312-double-barreled-handgun.aspx
"Gunmaker invents chilling double-barrel handgun", msn, 13 Mar 2012.

Someone has finally invented a weapon that combines the killing power of a double-barreled shotgun with the portability of a handgun.

[headslap] Leave it to mainstream media. .45 = 12 ga? Or double barrel shot guns are ordinarily fired both barrels simultaneously?

Rockfish61
March 15, 2012, 10:37 AM
(my jaw hit my lap when I saw the price on that silly mug :eek:)

What is even more surprising is the 90 day back order date to get one of those mugs. If there are that many people who will put out $280 for a Tacticool mug, I imagine there will be a sizable market for AutoZilla too.

sawdeanz
March 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
I actually wanted one of those mugs, why don't they just make a plastic one or something? I don't need a serialized beer glass. On the flip side, if you get an adapter now you really can add a cup holder/mug to your AR-15

In the video, the 2011 (such a clever name) doesn't seem as huge as I initially thought, but then again I've always wanted an Auto mag III so maybe i'm not the best judge of that

1911austin
March 15, 2012, 05:44 PM
I'm a bit of a 1911 nut but can't say that I care for that thing.

Zerodefect
March 15, 2012, 06:09 PM
Yo Dawg, I heard you like shooting 1911's.

So I welded a 1911 to your 1911, so you can shoot a 1911 while you shoot a 1911.

:scrutiny:

RevolvingGarbage
March 15, 2012, 10:20 PM
Zero,

Just so you know, you got atleast one laugh off of that.

dcarch
March 15, 2012, 11:30 PM
^seconded

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 16, 2012, 03:34 AM
In response to Zerodefect's post:

I hope Exhibit (I know I just spelled his name 'wrong') buys one of these... on principle

drunkensobriety
March 16, 2012, 09:40 PM
I started by reading the first page.... I saw the pictures.... I was trying *really* hard to control my laughter well enough to start typing. And I got to this:

It finally answers the question of "which is better in .45acp hardball or hollow points"

That's about where I lost it and laughed so hard I squinted out tears.

I was reminded of a line from Lucky Number Slevin.

"I'm going to say what a man with two penises says when his tailor asks if he dresses to the left or to the right."

"What's that?"

"Yes."

~~~

"Do you shoot flying ashtrays or hardball?"

"Yes."


Crude one liners..... commence.
I could double tap - with one pull of the trigger.
I can duel wield - one handed.
My pistol is twice as much fun as yours.
I can fastest gun in the west twice as fast as you can.
I can shoot faster than Miculek! ... well no, actually, still no... he's not human.
I've got you outgunned two to one.
When I'm drunk enough to see two, I've still got one barrel for each of ya.
I may be cross eyed, but my barrels are parallel.
My .45 has twice the TKO of your .45.
1911²

Ok, I have to stop, this is way too entertaining.

jerkface11
March 16, 2012, 10:06 PM
This thing was obviously designed for Chuck Norris.

WDGF
March 17, 2012, 02:54 AM
I wonder about the accuracy. Seems like the two bullets are traveling close enough together that their shock-waves would affect at least one of them. I assume primer, powder and/or other minute variations would make it likely one bullet would be at least slightly in front of the other.

I'd shoot it out of curiosity, but otherwise, not for me.

Friendly, Don't Fire!
March 17, 2012, 04:31 AM
I want one!
Make mine in Desert Eagle 50 AE, TRIPLE, not Double! ;)

B!ngo
April 13, 2012, 08:43 PM
Looks like the Starship Enterprise had another of those 'bad transporter incidents'...

JEB
April 13, 2012, 09:27 PM
"Quick, Jeb! Get the blowtorch! I gots a great idea!"

hey now! ;):D

Double Naught Spy
April 13, 2012, 10:20 PM
I wonder about the accuracy. Seems like the two bullets are traveling close enough together that their shock-waves would affect at least one of them. I assume primer, powder and/or other minute variations would make it likely one bullet would be at least slightly in front of the other.

Being subsonic, I don't know about shockwaves. For the distances involved in pistol shooting, I doubt any of the affects would be significant. Keep in mind that folks have been shooting paired and multi-barrel simultaneous and staggered firing guns for quite some time with decent accuracy. Obviously, the goal of the gun isn't for being able to shoot 10 shot targets more effeciently with just 5 shots during matches, although that would be interesting to see.

Kiln
April 14, 2012, 05:55 AM
They watched "The Green Hornet" one too many times.

x_wrench
April 14, 2012, 10:43 AM
I needawanagottahaveone! talk about the proverbial "double tap"!

EmG
April 16, 2012, 12:55 AM
the first question that comes to my mind is why???? what purpose is there for making this????

EmG
April 16, 2012, 01:02 AM
I would think it would be unreliable as well as unsafe, seems like fireing pin spring wear and differnce in ammo could make one chamber fire faster than the other and with a single slide this could be very dangerous.

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