Where are the Sub-2000's?


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Woogies
March 10, 2012, 11:15 AM
So I'm looking to buy a Kel-tec sub2000. Problem is, that nobody has been in stock for quite some time (either in the 9mm or 40 S&W). I was wondering if production has halted on them or if keltec is no longer selling them.

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rule303
March 10, 2012, 12:29 PM
There are plenty of threads like this, with several Kel-Tec products. Basically, their manufacturing can't come close to meeting the demand for some of their products. They are out there if you are willing to wait 6 months or more, or pay well over MSRP.

wally
March 10, 2012, 01:40 PM
I think Kel-Tec produces things in batches. Everybody has got them, then nobody has them and the cycle repeats. Same with the Saiga imports.

mgkdrgn
March 10, 2012, 08:22 PM
So I'm looking to buy a Kel-tec sub2000. Problem is, that nobody has been in stock for quite some time (either in the 9mm or 40 S&W). I was wondering if production has halted on them or if keltec is no longer selling them.
I'm an FFL and I've been on a "waiting list" for 9mm Glock mag Sub2K's.....
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.... with 5 different distributors ....
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.... for two years. I have yet to get my FIRST one.

browningguy
March 10, 2012, 11:47 PM
Wow, I was worried aliens had beamed them all up :), but mine is resting safely in the front hall closet ready to go. I bought this one when they first came out, it uses the 9mm Glock mag's which I highly recommend when you find one, 31 rounds per mag feels nice and comforting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jcm9371/Rifles/kelteccamo2.jpg

marine 97-03
March 11, 2012, 02:53 PM
rmr30 ,,, sub2k.....su16...keltec needs to step up production

Lee D
March 11, 2012, 02:58 PM
"rmr30 ,,, sub2k.....su16...keltec needs to step up production"

or learn to keep their mouths shut until they actually can feed the demand

wally
March 11, 2012, 03:43 PM
"rmr30 ,,, sub2k.....su16...keltec needs to step up production"

or learn to keep their mouths shut until they actually can feed the demand

I doubt their repair department could keep up if they increased production.

Two of my five Kel-Tecs (P3AT & RFB) have had to go back for repair (the PF-9, SU-2000, PU-16 have not, but they've only seen much lighter usage than the other two). I love the innovation of their designs, but the execution is often lacking.

marine 97-03
March 11, 2012, 03:55 PM
I would love to get a rmr30......but the way they do things...it will be years before I see one around here....if ever

paintballdude902
March 11, 2012, 04:27 PM
if you look hard enough you can find one. i watch some youtube videos from the guys at moss pawn and gun and in each video they have 1-2 on the shelf


my buddy picked one up in december (or october it was one of the last times i took leave) and paid i think 340 with 1 10rd mag

marksman13
March 11, 2012, 05:43 PM
www.mississippiautoarms.com

Had some in stock last week. Not sure what calibers they had.

greyling22
March 11, 2012, 05:55 PM
cdnn had some at one point. I don't know about now. Keltec is probably batching them behind more visible products. Give it time.

I read a brief opinion thing one time about how keltec's owner just wont spend the money to increase mfg capacity, due in part to fears the bottom would fall out of the market and he'd be stuck with too much factory. not the greatet strategy from a consumer point of view, but I can't say I really fault the logic from a conservative business POV.

CountryUgly
March 12, 2012, 11:08 AM
I've seen a few PMR-30's pop up locally on armslist.com seems one guy had purchased several and was selling "this amazing and hard to find .22mag pistol for the low low price of $550.00 FIRM." that is insane with the MSRP only being $350.00...some people

beebad
March 12, 2012, 11:22 AM
I had to pay way over MSRP to get my s2kg17. When I want something I want it now and sometimes you have to pay. I won it in a bidding war.

TurtlePhish
March 12, 2012, 03:57 PM
Maybe the name Sub-2000 is an indication of how many they're gonna make.

CoRoMo
March 12, 2012, 04:01 PM
Where are the Sub-2000's?
Always on GunBroker. (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=277393649)

Odd Job
March 12, 2012, 04:03 PM
Love those subbies! I get my fix once a year when I visit Florida.

Encoreman
March 12, 2012, 04:15 PM
I agree with CoRoMo, Gunbroker starting about $450. I have heard from 2 sources that Kel-Tec makes something for NASA and that's where they get their bread and butter, and make guns on the side so that may be part of the reason they are hard to come by. It sort of makes me wonder if they will have parts available to keep them running.

jim243
March 12, 2012, 07:15 PM
If you think they are hard to get, try getting a Hi-Point in 40 or 45.

Jim

Jackal1
March 12, 2012, 09:23 PM
If you read their website notes it says they expanded their manufacturing and warehouse space, and bought new CNC machines for the RFB production. Except their electricity demands exceed their available power supply. Supposedly its an expensive electrical upgrade...

marine 97-03
March 13, 2012, 09:12 AM
has anyone seen a rmr30 for sale

C'Thulhu
March 13, 2012, 11:05 AM
The RMR has been released? I thought it was still theoretical.

Panzercat
March 13, 2012, 12:57 PM
A bit more than theory, but not quite released. It's shown in action on the back half of the vid here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMnkBt48Zbo).

marine 97-03
March 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
I thought it got released last year

marine 97-03
March 13, 2012, 10:59 PM
I would love to have a sub 2k and a rmr30..

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