10/22 for hurricane season defense in my subdivision.... Really


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Katana8869
March 11, 2012, 12:41 AM
So here I am in Florida with hurricane season just around the corner and I am trying to decide on a rifle to give me a little better range than my Mossberg and Benelli shotguns. I'm not wanting to spend 1k on an AR and though I am considering either an AK or a SKS, I have serious concerns about overpenetration here in the subdivision that we live in.

So I have been reading and researching and one rifle keeps coming up over and over.... the Ruger 10/22. I know that a .22lr is a great pot-filler during hard times, but I'm not sure that I can go there for self defense. However a 10/22 with a good scope, 25 round mags and the ability to put alot of lead in the air with no recoil and fast follow up's does have a certain appeal....

So what does everybody think? Is a 10/22 a good subdivision SHTF weapon?

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ColtPythonElite
March 11, 2012, 12:42 AM
It beats a sharp stick.

sixgunner455
March 11, 2012, 12:45 AM
Use CCI Stingers or Velocitors.

amprecon
March 11, 2012, 12:47 AM
If it's all I had at the time it would work. I would not choose it as my first choice.

Self-defense as defined is if a person has reasonable fear for loss of life or limb, or some such as defined by your state.

A shotgun should suffice in most self-defense situations unless someone is shooting at you from afar with a rifle.

.22lr's are for small game and plinking, I wouldn't trust them as my first choice for a self-defense firearm, although they may have been used as such successfully for some.

Lunie
March 11, 2012, 12:50 AM
It beats a sharp stick.
That's an understatement.

jim243
March 11, 2012, 12:57 AM
Is a 10/22 a good subdivision SHTF weapon?

No it is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

It is a good pot filler, short and simple. But, for a SHTF it is way too weak. What will you be up against?, gators or two legged vermon, you want something more substanual.

A 223 would be a decent choice.
Jim

hso
March 11, 2012, 12:57 AM
Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle) in a subdivision in a natural disaster situation when a shotgun gives you plenty of power.

As poiinted out, a .22 is great at collecting game for food, but it can't trump the shotgun in your situation.

matty-vb
March 11, 2012, 01:01 AM
I agree with HSO. Stick with the shotguns. Practice with slugs if you feel you need extended range. If you still have range concerns and have multiple shotguns you could always add a small 2x scope to one and make it a dedicated slug gun.

lloveless
March 11, 2012, 01:13 AM
A shotgun is an all around game getter/self defense tool. Ideal for what you need.
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Agsalaska
March 11, 2012, 01:27 AM
I saw a used mini 14 go on an auction the other day for under 500. It had been knocked around a little bit but probably shot as straight as it ever did. I think it had 3 20 round mags with it too. Sounds like what you need.


I've been down the hurricane road by the way. Got to be prepared.

kd7nqb
March 11, 2012, 01:37 AM
so buy a 150 used 10/22 and a 100 Mosin for $250 you have every possible combination of rifle you need.

wasr10634unme
March 11, 2012, 01:41 AM
just buy one if you want it. traded mine last year. buying new one after taxes cause my stepbrother wont trade back. plus 1 on the mosin also and just so you know youll have to have more than one variant

gpr
March 11, 2012, 01:43 AM
a 10/22 would be great for you.....would you like to buy mine.....

raubvogel
March 11, 2012, 03:28 AM
Didn't they have an emergency rifle-in-its-stock thingie? AFAIK it was 22.

IMHO, a 22 can still kill a man. You just have to practice be good with it. I still think it is more the user and less the tool.

gpr, if I had the opportunity to get me an used 10/22 for around $100, I would. THey do have their place.

To the OP: what made you come to our beloved sand-filled love bug-infested state?

Saakee
March 11, 2012, 03:32 AM
If you have a glock or a 1911 and really think you need a rifle, why not look in to a mech tech upper? It'll turn your handgun in to a pcc, extending range and utilizing your normal SD round

kozak6
March 11, 2012, 04:04 AM
An ordinary pistol would be fine, and your shotguns are easily good enough.

A rimfire doesn't offer any more range than a shotgun with slugs. Buy some boxes and get some practice in if you are that concerned.

Honestly, you should be more concerned with nonperishable food, water, first aid supplies, maybe a generator or a chainsaw. That kind of stuff.

Isaac-1
March 11, 2012, 04:46 AM
A shotgun with slugs is good out to 75 yards or so (slugs are effective well beyond 75 yards, aiming is the issue), do you really see a defense situaiton where you would need to engage at a greater range. If the bad guys are better armed, your likely better off falling back than standing and shooting it out. Like others have said a .22 has its place, but I don't see it here, sure it may discourage people from a distance, it may cause a fatal wound either short term or long term, but what it can't be counted on to do is stop someone fast. A .22 can also travel a long way (be dangerous at over 1/4 mile), and has a fairly high tendancy to bounce when hitting water or even the ground. If you really feel you need to buy something with greater range, buy a bolt action hunting rifle, it is after the end of deer season now, and there are a number of deals out there on used guns, for that matter there are some fairly cheap effective new ones on the market too like the Savage Axis series (budget series prices start around $250) often found at discount sporting goods shops and big box stores.

OARNGESI
March 11, 2012, 09:04 AM
How about a ak74 you can get one fairly cheap and the 5.45x39 round may be perfect for you.

theicemanmpls
March 11, 2012, 09:19 AM
Normally SD situations are not at rifle range. If you shoot a bad guy 100 feet away, one can usually count on spending some heavy jail/prison time.

If you are looking for defend Fort Apache situation, NOTHING beats a shot gun.

If you still insist on a 10/22, get plenty of those 10 round Ruger mags. Look into the GOOD 25 rounders. Plenty of crap out there to waste your money on.

IMHO, a three round burst COM from a .22 rifle will put the hurt on all two legged beasts.

hogshead
March 11, 2012, 09:28 AM
Sounds like you have the best gun for the job. A shotgun. So go ahead and get a 1022 because you want one.

Loosedhorse
March 11, 2012, 09:40 AM
Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle)Gosh--I guess I'm REALLY gonna have trouble explaining why I need I rifle in the confines of my BEDROOM! :eek::rolleyes:

Actually, I won't. Neither will the OP. OP, I agree with the Mini-14 suggestion, since price is critical.

Plan2Live
March 11, 2012, 11:17 AM
Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle) in a subdivision in a natural disaster situation when a shotgun gives you plenty of power.

On the surface, I agree 100% and that was my first thought. Then I remember the stories that came out of the Virgin Islands back in the late 80s when a Hurricane hit down there. There were reports of roving gangs of indigenous residents attacking transplanted residents and tourists with machettes. If you just watched a group of thugs hack up your neighbors it would be hard to sit and wait until they were within shotgun or handgun range if you had other options. Tough call.

Speaking of Hurricanes and guns, I remember watching a TV reporter interviewing a guy after Hurricane Andrew hit Miami. The picture was a fairly tight shot of a guy sitting on the entry step in front of his house holding a long gun, I think it was a shotgun. The reporter asked him what he was doing and he said he was "protecting his property". The camera pulled back and showed the guy sitting in front of a more or less flattened house in a more or less flattened neighborhood. What property?!!! Dude, your stuff is gone. He had a van that appeared driveable in the driveway, just get in it and go. It's sad how people can get rattled in such situations and don't see the bigger picture.

Art Eatman
March 11, 2012, 11:29 AM
Based on stories from Hurricane Andrew, just the sight of any firearm was adequate deterrent for daytime encounters. Looters wanted targets which were much softer.

Night time events generally ended when looters discovered that a house was occupied; they left.

TurkeyOak
March 11, 2012, 11:41 AM
+1 for 10/22 and Mosin Nagant.
The M-N will cover ranges beyond your shotguns. The shotgun for close up, and a 10/22 because everyone needs a .22.

hardluk1
March 11, 2012, 12:14 PM
You have 2 shotguns now? Put a rifled slug barrel on the mossy and with current sabot loads they are accurate out to 225 yards with a scope. Not that you would ever need it for home defence!! But good for deer. If you just want a .22lr get a marlin 60 over the ruger. More accurate by far when box stock and new price about the same and would be a more reylable small game getter. Now then the shotguns and a .22 should cover about any problem that comes up. Use a tungston T load for up close to buck shot out to 40 or 50 yards and slugs to 225 or so and a nice 22 for feeding the family.


You really should own a handgun. Something easy to shoot for anyone in the family ,full size 9mm would do well enough. What ever fits the smallest hands in the house that my need it.

Isaac-1
March 11, 2012, 12:36 PM
One thing I did not mention in my first message, nothing beats .22 when it comes to cheap and easilly portable ammo, just try putting a 50 round box of anything else in a pants pocket. I did the math the other day, and buy buying mail order it is possible to buy enough fairly good .22LR Hollow Points to shoot one round per day for 40 years for well under $1,000. (about $600 with cheap bulk junk, but with my experience having about a thousand rounds of Remington Thunderbolts that are swollen and will not chamber, I don't think cheap is the way to go here)

oneounceload
March 11, 2012, 01:06 PM
Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle) in a subdivision in a natural disaster situation when a shotgun gives you plenty of power.

Exactly, besides the lethality of a slug at 100 yards is a lot greater than a .22 lr - which should be just fine against a roving band of machete-wielding folks

Lee D
March 11, 2012, 01:11 PM
i know a disabled Vietnam veteran (a great friend) who due to his injury cant shoot much but his 10/22 anymore. i gave the guy a couple 30 rd mags and he was tickled as it gets. his logic, and based on his combat experience i would NEVER doubt was "everyone ducks when lead is flying overhead"....makes sense to me.

scaatylobo
March 11, 2012, 01:13 PM
Get lots of practice with slugs in the shotty's.

Slugs because you are responsible for all shots that you fire and buckshot can be hard to send downrange and KNOW for sure where all pellets will go.

Spend the extra time to REALLY learn the shotgun and all its abilitys and shortcomings [ range ].

btw,I have seen the S&W M-4's selling new for about 600+.

If you really want or believe that is the answer.

I own a few and do like the accurate fire that I can do with them.

But the 12 bore is also a very good option that I still train with.

Aiko492
March 11, 2012, 01:20 PM
You can approach an AR for about $600 if that is what you really want-a pretty nice one at that. As others have mentioned, practicing with slugs is not a bad idea either.

Tim37
March 11, 2012, 01:24 PM
theres been a lot of people die due to a .22

Loosedhorse
March 11, 2012, 02:12 PM
just the sight of any firearm was adequate deterrent for daytime encountersThat being the case, maybe getting ammo is just a waste of money. Personally, I'd want to depend on something more than the sight of a gun...and more than a .22LR. JMHO.Gonna be pretty difficult explaining why you needed the greater lethal range of a .22 (or any rifle)I am surprised that so many agree with this statement. First, a .223 has a lot of advantages that a 12 gauge doesn't.

But most important--to whom exactly are we "explaining" our choice of rifle, and why do so many think we have to explain that choice?

GCMkc
March 11, 2012, 02:51 PM
You can approach an AR for about $600 if that is what you really want-a pretty nice one at that. As others have mentioned, practicing with slugs is not a bad idea either.

^This. I think a $600 AR-15 will perform just as well as a $1k AR-15. Plus, if you're in a situation when the SHTF you are not going to worry about how much you spent on your AR-15...

Captains1911
March 11, 2012, 03:16 PM
^This. I think a $600 AR-15 will perform just as well as a $1k AR-15. Plus, if you're in a situation when the SHTF you are not going to worry about how much you spent on your AR-15...
Not until it goes down and you wish you had ponied up $200 more.

This is crap, $800 to $1000 ARs are better than $600 ones. For a range or plinker, a $600 AR is fine, for a defensive rifle, which is what we're discussing here, pay a little more and get a quality one, why skimp?

Hocka Louis
March 11, 2012, 03:31 PM
How do you beat a shotgun in a subdivision for defense? Buckshot is more effective at longer ranges than most people realize, as are slugs, of course. I like the idea of a Polychoke so you can change it on the fly with a twist of the wrist vs. swapping internal tubes. Buy a flat of #1 or #0 Buckshot (skip the #00): thru a modified choke it will be useful well out to 50 meters. Worried a little about overpenetration? #4 Buckshot might be the only other option -- sorry. Even light slugs to much farther. Save the money from the gun and get a Polychoke and some more varied ammo instead.

On a final note: a .22 LR is better than nothing and will make anyone think twice about doing bad things. But it probably won't stop them in the act.

theicemanmpls
March 11, 2012, 03:46 PM
You have 2 shotguns now? Put a rifled slug barrel on the mossy and with current sabot loads they are accurate out to 225 yards with a scope. Not that you would ever need it for home defence!! But good for deer. If you just want a .22lr get a marlin 60 over the ruger. More accurate by far when box stock and new price about the same and would be a more reylable small game getter. Now then the shotguns and a .22 should cover about any problem that comes up. Use a tungston T load for up close to buck shot out to 40 or 50 yards and slugs to 225 or so and a nice 22 for feeding the family.


You really should own a handgun. Something easy to shoot for anyone in the family ,full size 9mm would do well enough. What ever fits the smallest hands in the house that my need it.
I don't know if the OP is that well healed. I am not, plus, IMHO, not necessary to buy the rifled barrels. Those sabot slugs are not cheap. IMO, most deer where I am from are shot well under 100 yards. The tried and true pumpkin ball slugs do the job and are not anywhere near the price of sabots.

The Marlin 60? Is that built by the "new marlin aka Remington"? If so, one might search out a older used one. Rumor has it the new marlin products are not the same quality of the old company.

A shotgun with a longer barrel and chokes can down a variety of game. In fact, with two barrels one for birds, and small game and the other for big game, and goblins, one should do very well.

A pistol that will handle HP 9mm's will do just fine. So will a 38 wheel gun.

Isaac-1
March 11, 2012, 04:22 PM
Personally I am not concerned with they type of gun I might shoot an intruder with, if by chance I was holding my Savage 114 30-06 with a Burris 14x scope on it when someone decided to kick down the back door, there is no way I would consider putting it down to grab a shotgun, etc. (well I might put it down AFTER I grabbed a shotgun if there was time, since it would probably be bad form to shoot through someone's house half a mile away after shooting through the BG.

LANDMAN4389
March 11, 2012, 04:32 PM
People tend to overthink things. A Ruger 10/22 would make a perfect weapon for what you want to use it for.

It will kill just as quickly as a .500 S&W but you will have a hard time explaining that to people.

I'd sooner take a .22 rifle for personal protection or anything else needed than a shotgun with slugs, or an elephant gun. There is a reason you find them in just about every old farm house still in the South. They are cheap, easy to shoot, and will kill if needed.

If you don't believe a .22lr will kill an alligator other than what you see on the History channel then you need to get out more. If you need to head out quickly, would you rather pack a case of ammo or just throw a brick of .22lr in the backpack or truck?

A .22lr will flat out kill and it's relatively quiet.

velojym
March 11, 2012, 05:12 PM
Yeah, the .22 probably accounts for a large number of lives, but the trick here is to do it quickly enough so that the BG stops what he's doing before he can reach you or yours.

I have a 10/22, and there have been a few times when it's the rifle I grabbed to answer the door to a shady looking character, but I'd trust my .44mag levergun more.

Certaindeaf
March 11, 2012, 05:19 PM
The good thing is, tinfoil will be relatively rare when "TSHTF".
You just might stand a chance.

Bovice
March 11, 2012, 05:24 PM
For hurricanes and keeping looters or invaders at bay, a reliable pistol and some go-to magazines are sufficient. You don't need long range capability. Your concern is only your property.

RalphS
March 11, 2012, 06:24 PM
I live in Florida in a sub-division and I went through Andrew as well as a couple other hurricanes. Wilma was the worst for us. My neighborhood was without power for almost 2 weeks (I had a generator). My home defense is a couple of handguns and a couple of shotguns. The rifles stay locked up in the safe.

Where I live, the sub-divisions are densely populated. It would be insane to shoot a rifle around here.

I don't consider a hurricane to be a SHTF scenario. Instead of barricading yourself in your house, go out afterwards and help your neighbors clean up.

BLB68
March 11, 2012, 06:42 PM
What Ralph said.

If you live in the subdivision from hell, then the shotguns should be more than adequate. You'd be better off spending your money on more practical supplies.

oneounceload
March 11, 2012, 06:42 PM
I don't consider a hurricane to be a SHTF scenario. Instead of barricading yourself in your house, go out afterwards and help your neighbors clean up

EXACTLY! +1000

I too live in a subdivision, here we help each other out as much as possible as many are in their 70s and 80s

Hocka Louis
March 11, 2012, 09:20 PM
The good thing is, tinfoil will be relatively rare when "TSHTF".
You just might stand a chance.
This is a falacy. Tin foil is VERY difficult to find NOW and will be unaffordable in an emergency. They started removing it from the shelves in the late 50's. All you can get on the consumer market is aluminum foil which is about as useful as wax paper for a Faraday cage.

theicemanmpls
March 11, 2012, 10:06 PM
This is a falacy. Tin foil is VERY difficult to find NOW and will be unaffordable in an emergency. They started removing it from the shelves in the late 50's. All you can get on the consumer market is aluminum foil which is about as useful as wax paper for a Faraday cage.
One could have a #8 solid with grounding alligator clamp, the other end fitted into a body cavity.

Or,

One could wear a Faraday suit.

Aluminum foil just don't' work anymore.

mjsdwash
March 11, 2012, 10:58 PM
get an exact edge extractor, if you real are serious about a 10.22

Elm Creek Smith
March 11, 2012, 11:22 PM
A 10/22 is a fine little rifle. While a .22 can kill, it can't stop an attacker. A shotgun can take care of stopping attackers, but ranges even with buckshot are limited. A Ruger Mini-14 is a good choice since over-penetration with .223 Rem is limited even at close ranges. My Mini's red dot is zeroed at 25 yards.

ECS

rls303
March 11, 2012, 11:34 PM
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vtuck2
March 12, 2012, 12:31 AM
Quote:
"I saw a used mini 14 go on an auction the other day for under 500. It had been knocked around a little bit but probably shot as straight as it ever did. I think it had 3 20 round mags with it too. Sounds like what you need."

Over the course of my 62 years I've owned lots of firearms. The two that I've most loathed were a mini-14 and a S&W 639. I jumped for joy and did backward flips the day I got rid of 'em.

But back to the matter at hand... I cannot see a scenario in which a .223 ANYTHING would be a reasonable "subdivision SHTF" weapon. I simply cannot understand ".223" and "subdivision" being used in the same sentence. It's almost like juxtaposing the words "welding" and "gas tanks".

It scares the bejeesus outta me!

Respectfully,

Vernon

Certaindeaf
March 12, 2012, 12:34 AM
A .223 with frangibles has less penetration than about any handgun.

pikid89
March 12, 2012, 12:41 AM
Having lived on the coast of southwest florida for my whole life (hurricane Charley passed within a mile of our house), I feel like the guns you have are perfectly adequate for your needs. Being new to florida, I would advise you that you spend your time and resources stocking up on important hurricane supplies like enough potable water for your family for at least a week, as well as medicine, batteries, and canned food.

On top of that, you really should have a plan for getting out of the path of a storm. If a storm is serious enough to warrant looter defense in the aftermath, you really should not have stuck around to begin with. Nothing material in your home is worth trying to ride out a 3 or higher storm unless you live above the flood plain and your house is poured concrete.

blindhari
March 12, 2012, 01:43 AM
Hello Katana, let us go over parameters.
1 Florida
2 Hurricane country
3 Self defense
4 Subdivision
5 Over penetration
6 You own a Mossberg and Benelli shotgun

1 That's where you live and can't be changed quickly
2 The storm season is going to happen, when and where they hit are the only questions. Best option is to read old storm newspapers to guess severeity to assist in planning.
3 The only really defendable self defense is if some one is trying to kill you. That generally means some one up close and personal. A scoped rifle is not really a self defense weapon unless you are returning sniper fire, if it is a sniper good luck, a 22 lr is just not in the same class as a scoped .308.
4 I live in a subdivision. Where I live we have 1/4 acre lots. I could stand on any corner of my lot and hit any one on a diagonal corner with a shot gun if the house was not in the way. The house is in the way, this limits any shooting I would do in self defense to a 200' line of sight on my property. A 22 lr will go 1500' down the same line of sight and still be dangerous to innocent bystanders. Where I live that would be criminal negligence.
5 Please see #4
6 You have two shotguns, although I do not know guage or model, to provide a reasonable defense. Adding another firearm and a different ammo complicates your logistical situation. If you do get a 10-22 forget the scope, you will probably be shooting at man size targets up close not at some one three houses down when and if you get a clear field of fire that does not endanger the guy four houses down. For the type of combat in cities you are asking about most law enforcement uses a shotgun.

My solution: I would cache shotguns and ammo in places where I could get to it easily. Any firearm with a house crushed on top of it is not an asset. Split emergency ammo into what you can carry easily and distiribute it where only you can get hold of it. Tell no one, no one, no one, NO ONE except trained shooters you trust with the location of firearms and ammo.

I truly hope you never find yourself in such a situation as you describe. If you do wind up in such a situation it is possible to survive if you just take a look around and ask yourself not how to defend against everything but the best you can do in the areas you can control. Lastly whatever firearms you depend on, practice with them until they are as easy to use as the knife and fork you use for dinner.

blindhari

RalphS
March 12, 2012, 11:02 AM
There are not many 1/4 acre lots in Florida subdivisions. Usually, it's a zero-lot-line property. That means that your neighbors' house is about 10 feet from your house. No driveways between houses.

Besides, before anyone breaks into your house to steal your flatscreen, they will be breaking into Walmart and Best Buy first.

Clipper
March 12, 2012, 03:45 PM
Someone starts shooting at me with a .22, I'm not man enough to call 'em a P***y and charge it down, I'm gonna get outa range post-haste. If I had to protect me and mine after a natural disaster, my go-to would be my BL-22 loaded with stingers...

wannabeagunsmith
March 12, 2012, 05:19 PM
Get the Mini-14 or Mossberg 500.

Fish Miner
March 12, 2012, 05:19 PM
You got a few months before the storms will be a factor, I would second the opinion that you should stock up on water, batteries, solar charging, food and propane. If you go through a hurricane like Andrew, chances are your house is toast and your just gonna need to leave. If it is a Wilma/Charlie type storm, your gonna have no power for a week or two and then protection from looters might be more of reality. Your shotgun should be more then enough.

oneounceload
March 12, 2012, 05:49 PM
here are not many 1/4 acre lots in Florida subdivisions. Usually, it's a zero-lot-line property. That means that your neighbors' house is about 10 feet from your house. No driveways between houses.

Incorrect - I live in one with 1/4 acre housing - there is a minimum 10' to the lot line on each side, so 20' - not much, but enough to park a boat or truck

Zero lot line means your houses would be touching, ala SoCal, NYC or similar places where property is measured by the foot on the street

RalphS
March 12, 2012, 06:56 PM
oneounceload - come over to the east coast and you will have a hard time finding any 1/4 acre lots, and yes, they do call it zero-lot-line over here.

Maybe I should move over to the west coast. Over here, the houses are so close together that it's not possible to drive a car between them, the driveway space in front of the garage will hold at most one car and the backyard is only big enough for a small pool. 6 million people in 3 counties (Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade) living in zero lot lines, townhouses, condos and apartments.

Hoppes Love Potion
March 12, 2012, 07:40 PM
Another idea would be a used 30-30 lever-action rifle. You can pick them up for $300 - $400 for a Marlin 336; many will already have a scope.

stonewall308
March 12, 2012, 07:55 PM
I got 2500 rounds of .22 for about $100 shipped to my door. Thats hard to beat.

Honestly, I'd feel pretty confident with my 10/22 and a few 25 rounds mags. I'd be aiming for headshots at 50 yards offhand easily. Of course I'd feel more confident with my glock on my hip.

tbow1964
March 12, 2012, 10:20 PM
Another option no one has mentioned is a SKS. Ammo cheap and will certainly fit the bill in a SHTF scenario.

22-rimfire
March 12, 2012, 10:33 PM
We just had tornados vey close to our house during this last tornadic storm front that passed through the South a week ago.

You can buy SKS's for about $300 these days. Not a bad rifle to have around. I would use a Ruger Mini 14 for the rifle choice. But I am not likely to be carrying around a rifle in a subdivision.

The Ruger 10/22 will work but I would shy away from those 25 round magazines unless you test them for reliability. The steel lips are the better choice. Better to have two or three 10 round Ruger factory magazines.

You'd be better off with the shotguns you already own and a handgun you are capable with. The handgun conceals more easily. My choice in a handgun is a Glock 23. But I am just as likely to be carrying a revolver; sometimes even a 22LR revolver.

I don't think you need more range than 50 yds.

mgregg85
March 12, 2012, 10:40 PM
I'd get a whole bunch of those new bx-25 mags and practice headshots and double taps. Seriously consider getting and training with a new weapon.

jk2008
March 12, 2012, 11:44 PM
For a short-term, close-quarters, neighborhood protection environment (like the hurricane scenario described above), I'd think a 12 gauge shotgun is your best option.

That being said, my only experience with something like this was when I was a kid and lived near Jackson, MS. In 1979, the Pearl River, which runs through Jackson, had a 500-year flood. Men in the affected neighborhoods armed themselves (mostly with shotguns, but also with deer rifles and handguns) and banded together to block off the roads that led into their subdivisions. This was done to keep away looters, but also to keep away the curious who might drive through the streets (in the jacked-up pick-up trucks that were popular then) and by doing so create a wake that would send more waves of water into their homes.

If you want to plan for a longer-term SHTF scenario (say, the zombie apocalypse :D), you'd probably want to get:
1) a 22LR semi-auto rifle to put food on the table (along with lots of ammo for it since 22LR ammo doesn't show signs of getting any cheaper, it'll last forever of you store it right, AND depending on who you talk to, it'll be THE currency of choice in the post-apocalyptic era :rolleyes:)
2) a high-power rifle to down larger game or zombies (I'd pick .30-06 or .308 since the ammo is readily available).
3) an SKS, because they're fun and your cable or satellite TV will probably be out.

tarosean
March 13, 2012, 04:18 AM
I don't consider a hurricane to be a SHTF scenario. Instead of barricading yourself in your house, go out afterwards and help your neighbors clean up.


This...

Ive been through several hurricanes living in the gulf south. Neighbors helping neighbors is how they ALL have turned out fpr me and my family. Only time Ive ever thought of a gun is when I was contemplating poaching after supplies ran low. (Ike) without power/gas/stores/etc. for 2 weeks

MedWheeler
March 13, 2012, 07:19 AM
Clipper writes:

Someone starts shooting at me with a .22, I'm not man enough to call 'em a P***y and charge it down, I'm gonna get outa range post-haste.

Same here. I doubt you could find five people in the state of Florida that, in a post-hurricane environment, would continue to criminally encroach onto property being obviously defended by a man wielding a Ruger 10/22. If somehow you could, and they all happened to live in your neighborhood, all happened to target your house, and all five tried it, at least four would turn tail and seek out easier targets. Any that did not, would as soon as the first shot was fired (assuming he is still able to.)
I have been in at least five post-hurricane environments in the last 20 years, three of them within the last ten, and two of those were so close together that power had not yet been restored throughout my city after the first before the second, an even stronger one, hit.
But, as has been said, you are already well-armed for the purpose. If you want a 10/22, you certainly don't need a hurricane to justify it. Just go get it. You'll enjoy it a lot more if you buy it for enjoyment. They are great guns; I've had mine since 1987, though it is currently modified with a scope and an AR-type stock conversion, and sports Ruger's own 25-round magazine.

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