anybody know my stepbrother


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wasr10634unme
March 11, 2012, 03:19 AM
carries a glock 17 (with about 2 mags through it) as a security guard and concealed (empty chamber btw):(

doesnt shoot any of his 20 guns (except when he bought them) so hes sure they work. and he still has the partial boxes of ammo bought with each gun

has 2 AR's that have never been sighted in or found paper because he cant sit down at a bench for more than 3 seconds(let alone spend a day at the range):rolleyes:

2 cheap .38 snubs that he doesnt carry or shoot(wanted to buy either but the rossi wasnt for sale and the taurus he got cheap he offered up for $300:what:

which leads me to the latest attempted purchase: a draco pistol he purchased a year ago. after i researched for months and bought a wasr he saw the draco on the same site and impulsed. when he first got the draco he painted the wood black and some of the gas tube and reciever then i showed him how to strip and clean it and then he put 90 rds through it (not even enough to cook the paint off) then stuck it in the safe. i cant find a draco under 500 anywhere so 2 weeks ago i offered him $400(even though i gotta find new wood) for that ak he never shoots(he paid $360) and he turned me down:banghead:

anyone know someone like this?

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Jorg Nysgerrig
March 11, 2012, 03:26 AM
As far as I can tell, it seems your main gripe is that he won't sell you the Draco for less than market value. Doesn't seem like any of the other stuff should affect you one way or the other. Some people enjoy using stuff, some people enjoy just having stuff. Different strokes and all.

45bthompson
March 11, 2012, 03:34 AM
Live and let live Bro.

wasr10634unme
March 11, 2012, 03:43 AM
all the "other stuff" relates to his personal saftey and that of my extended family. i wish i could get him to the range or a carbine course but hes a super tactical ex security ninja and has no need to train how do i wake him up?

the ak situation was kind of a tangent and i forgot to make my final point but there

but i really hate that he doesnt shoot it. i wanna do dirty things to that pistol

12131
March 11, 2012, 03:44 AM
Is he unsafe with his firearms? If he is not, leave him alone. I think you are the one with issues, OP.

45bthompson
March 11, 2012, 04:08 AM
I'm not sure about all the dynamics here but maybe you should invite him shooting? I suggest trying to think more positive of him either way. Faults are easy to see. I'm sure there are a few things he doesn't like about you. After all you two are family now.

psyopspec
March 11, 2012, 04:35 AM
i wish i could get him to the range or a carbine course but hes a super tactical ex security ninja and has no need to train how do i wake him up?

You don't. If it comes up in conversation state your peace, but other than that it shouldn't be of concern. The bad news here is that you won't get him to see your version of "the light." The good news is, it's not anything you need to worry about.

shiftyer1
March 11, 2012, 04:48 AM
I have several guns I haven't shot yet, I got a great deal on them so I couldn't pass them up. I'm also a cheapskate so .22lr is what I mostly shoot. My roundcount of anything above .22lr compared to others on this forum is really pretty laughable. Although I really don't understand how his buying and use of his firearms affects you. Aside from the fact that he wouldn't pass on the deal to you.

If what you want is to convince him that a SHTF senario WILL happen to him. You can't....people either prepare or they don't and nothing you say will convince him.

Cosmoline
March 11, 2012, 04:50 AM
Some people who aren't gun people still own firearms. It's odd, but they will buy them yet aren't particularly interested in collecting or shooting them. I have a brother in law like that.

Gtimothy
March 11, 2012, 10:51 AM
My dad was like that...lots of guns but no time/interest in shooting them. I "explained" that as a machine, guns need to be used in order for them to keep working properly. Not really a lie...:evil: Any way, I offered to take them to the range and shoot them then clean and lubricate them so they stayed in perfect working order! It worked for me, might work for you. At least you would get to shoot the draco! Just a thought!

Black Butte
March 11, 2012, 01:22 PM
carries a glock 17 ... (empty chamber btw):(

i cant find a draco under 500 anywhere so 2 weeks ago i offered him $400(even though i gotta find new wood) for that ak he never shoots(he paid $360) and he turned me down:banghead:

anyone know someone like this?

There is nothing wrong with carrying on an empty chamber, if that is how he chooses to do it. There are too many cases of accidental discharges, so I respect his choice and concern for public safety.

As far as his Draco goes, it's his gun and he can do with it as he pleases. I wouldn't be thrilled if somebody was trying to strong-arm me into selling one of my guns for under market value.

atomd
March 11, 2012, 01:40 PM
I know a couple of people who buy guns and just put them in the closet. They aren't interested in using them for home defense, they don't carry them, heck....half of them they don't even own one round of ammo for. They just buy them because they like them. Some of them are 20 years old and have never been fired once. You could offer double market value for them and they still wouldn't sell it to you in a million years. I don't see a thing wrong with doing that if that's what makes you happy. Different strokes for different folks.

mljdeckard
March 11, 2012, 02:01 PM
I have had a similar dilemma. I have a friend who buys guns mostly because he thinks they look cool. (A desert eagle and an ak for example.) For his 'carry' gun, (he hasn't gotten around to getting his permit for several years now,) he bought a gun he hates to shoot based entirely on the low price to keep his wife....less unhappy. He rarely shoots any of them, most of them need some kind of repair or other.

All of this is fine and.good, except that when we hang out together, he is glad that I'm around, because he feels safer. I don't like this, because he is perfectly capable of carrying and protecting himself, he just never gets around to it. Other friends I hang with always carry, and we cross-train with each others guns. (We almost all carry 1911s with matching magazines and ammo.) I told this guy he needs to train, but he downplays the importance. He can do what he wants, but I withhold my knowledge, training, and favors for friends who take them seriously.

ApacheCoTodd
March 11, 2012, 02:03 PM
Know someone like that?... I am someone like that.

Between firearms, vehicles and a plot of land, I am fairly regularly assaulted by folk thinking they have a right to what's mine because they'll use it in a manner they deem to be more correct or justifiable.

Heaven forbid we talk about selling because then they get upset at me not selling for an amount they feel is reasonable... "you're not even using it...".

Hocka Louis
March 11, 2012, 02:14 PM
ME too. These days. Mostly. Well, not quite to the same extent, but, I like to collect and have limited time, opportunity, or need these days...
I do have a formula called Louis' Corollary: if the interest of the friend/relative who wants one of my arms is greater than my fondness of it sqaured they can name the price and buy it.

Serenity
March 11, 2012, 02:18 PM
I can understand some of the sentiment. It's a shame to see a beautiful car parked in a garage with a cover on it; never driven or even looked at. A piece of art stored in a safe instead of hung on a wall. Creamy delicious dark chocolate truffles sitting in a case... Regardless, I think "what a shame" and move on; I will just drive my beautiful car and hang my art and eat my truffles and enjoy them all. :cool:

The OP expressed concern because his family isn't being guarded safely by his step-brother; that is a concern that many people express on here without being schooled. Has anyone had any success influencing other family members to do a "better job" of home and family protection? Maybe a few pointers, if you have?

TennJed
March 11, 2012, 02:21 PM
my father in law is old school. so old school that he doesn't see the need to own computers or bother with things lie texting much less message boards and forums. He is very much a gun guy though. He would think talking about guns on the internet was "mall ninja" if he knew what "mall ninja" was

To each his own

pockets
March 12, 2012, 07:49 AM
but i really hate that he doesnt shoot it.
This seems to be the OP's entire point.

Your stepbrother bought the guns, he can do or not do whatever he wants with them.

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hso
March 12, 2012, 07:54 AM
We all do.

Some we know as family, others as coworkers and some on the internet.

chevyman097
March 12, 2012, 08:41 AM
I have a friend like you. Always pestering me to buy "that gun I never use", or "You have two of them anyways". Its very annoying.

His property, his choice to do as he wishes with it.

CYANIDEGENOCIDE
March 12, 2012, 09:15 AM
My favorite is someone I work with.
"Why don't you give me an AR-15?"
"Well it cost me $800 to build and a fair bit of time tracking down parts, and I really don't want to sell it."
"But I want it."
"Ok, what will you give me for it?"
"Friendship"

drsfmd
March 12, 2012, 09:26 AM
Do you know my stepbrother?

I don't have a lot of spare time to shoot, but I enjoy buying guns. I figure someday I'll have time to shoot them, and I want to collect what I can as I come across it. I've even done some mods that I think are pretty cool.

My stepbrother is constantly bugging me to sell him my guns, and he wants them for less than I have invested in them! I wish he would leave me alone...

Agsalaska
March 12, 2012, 09:50 AM
I am a lot like that. I used to shoot a lot when I lived in AK. But since I moved to the lower 48 I hardly go at all. But I still buy guns. I have two guns that stay loaded and I will go a couple of times a year and shoot them. But I haven't shot my black guns in a couple of years. I haven't shot the last 4 guns I bought. Probably never will.


One is a 1300 defender. I have owned 4 or 5 of those since I turned 18 and had parted ways with all of them. But it's a good gun to own so I bought another one. I may take it once to make sure it shoots but that would be it.

I suppose the fact that I don't practice all the time and throw thousands of rounds down range every year somehow makes me less 'prepared', and there may be some small amount of truth to that. But It just doesn't interest me that much.

Flopsweat
March 12, 2012, 11:38 AM
My dad was like that...lots of guns but no time/interest in shooting them. I "explained" that as a machine, guns need to be used in order for them to keep working properly. Not really a lie...:evil: Any way, I offered to take them to the range and shoot them then clean and lubricate them so they stayed in perfect working order! It worked for me, might work for you. At least you would get to shoot the draco! Just a thought!
This is great idea. Offer to sight in his AR's. Then work your way through the other guns. By the time you get to the Draco, just ask to borrow it. Bring home targets from the more accurate guns. Maybe it'll get him in the mood to shoot more.

paintballdude902
March 12, 2012, 07:42 PM
my ex brother in law had close to 60 guns. the only time he fired one that wasnt mine in the last 5 years was when he decided to scare my sister and shoot one off in the air.... hence why i said Ex

Davek1977
March 13, 2012, 03:47 AM
My guns, my business, my prerogative as to whats done with them This is why I choose to own things, rather than rent or borrow them. I don't like being told what I "should" be doing with a particular item, especially when what I do with that item has absolutely no bearing on the person making the suggestion.

mcdonl
March 13, 2012, 06:02 AM
I have three guns still in the plastic wrap they came in. I buy someguns because they are good deals and never shoot them... For me, I need to a) have to like the gun b) have a need to shoot the gun often (SD, hunting, target), c) have the time and d) be setup to reload the guns I shoot often... the rest of them sit in the cabinet until they meet the above criteria. And they ARE cool to look at and make me happy when I buy, clean and handle them.

Guns are not toys but they are fun to play with :)

HGM22
March 13, 2012, 04:50 PM
So he should sell you the Draco for under market value so that he then has to go out and pay market value for another Draco (assuming he wants a Draco, which I do since he hasn't sold it).

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