Anyone Reload 12 Gauge?


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ObsidianOne
March 13, 2012, 12:48 PM
Is it possible to do this economically over target loads sold at Walmart for ~$24 per 100 rounds?
What about 00 buckshot?
The only place I can find that sells buck shot is Midway, anyone know of any sites that sell buck shot in bulk?

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USSR
March 13, 2012, 01:04 PM
Is it possible to do this economically over target loads sold at Walmart for ~$24 per 100 rounds?

Sure. It costs me $19 to produce 100 rounds of skeet loads. Not a whole lot of savings, though, considering the equipment you need to buy to produce it.

What about 00 buckshot?
The only place I can find that sells buck shot is Midway, anyone know of any sites that sell buck shot in bulk?

I cast my own "0" (.319") buckshot. Nice size to use, as you don't have to cut the petals off of your wads.

Don

GarySTL
March 14, 2012, 12:28 AM
I can reload 12 GA on my MEC 9000 cheaper than I can buy shells. It's somewhat close on the cost of the cheap shells, but I only shoot AAs and they cost more.

rodinal220
March 14, 2012, 01:22 AM
Alot depends on where and how many components you buy to bring the cost down.Free hulls from range pickup helps alot.What you can do for the same or a little less is make a better shell than the cheap promo loads at Wally World.If you belong to a club with trap and skeet shooters many buy in bulk from vendors and this can help reduce cost.I would shoot for building a better shot shell for the same or a bit less than cheap promo loads.

Loading slugs or in your case buckshot is a bit more involved.I never had any luck with Lee slugs as far as accuracy and buckshot loads are slower to assemble.You will need to do some experimenting to see what your shotty likes.Hard to top those Federal Flite-Control buck loads.

gamestalker
March 14, 2012, 01:27 AM
I can still loads 1 1/8 oz. dove & quail loads for about $3.60 per 25 round box. And when our local gun club has reclaimed in stock, I can reduce that cost to about $2.80 per box. And strange as it sounds, I enjoy reloading shotshells on my Mec 600 Jr.. I can knock out 5 boxes an hour when my rythm is good, but 4 per hr. with no problem.

"00" buck is a bit different to laod than is bird shot, but it's still just as simple. Just make sure you use the recipe as published. Don't substitute components, use hulls of different design, or delete components and you'll be fine.

ObsidianOne
March 14, 2012, 02:53 AM
Thanks for the info guys, might be my next endeavor :) Any sites that sell shot, wads, etc. inexpensively?
Also, as far as range pickup on shells go, some have said to only bother picking up AA hulls, but I've only encountered them once and I grabbed as many as I could find. They seem noticibly thicker. Can I pick up, say Federal hulls and reuse them?

USSR
March 14, 2012, 08:20 AM
Any sites that sell shot, wads, etc. inexpensively?

Because of the weight, and the shipping cost associated with shot, you are much better off buying shot locally. As for everything else: Powder Valley, Widener's and Graf and Sons are the companies I've dealt with.

Also, as far as range pickup on shells go, some have said to only bother picking up AA hulls, but I've only encountered them once and I grabbed as many as I could find. They seem noticibly thicker. Can I pick up, say Federal hulls and reuse them?

Winchester AA and any Remington shotshell are all I use. They are similar enough that you can load them basically the same.

Don

rbernie
March 14, 2012, 09:46 AM
Federal hulls are straight walled internally and not tapered like the Rem and Win hulls. That makes them well suited for extra heavy loads but harder to get to work well with a light (1oz or less) load.

rodinal220
March 14, 2012, 11:12 AM
Buy shot locally,too expensive to ship.

http://www.recobstargetshop.com/

http://www.gamaliel.com/

rfwobbly
March 15, 2012, 01:07 AM
Any sites that sell shot, wads, etc. inexpensively?
If you belong to a shotgun club, the cheapest way is to find out who provides the clays. Call those guys and order your shot. They'll throw it on the truck for free with the clays.

Can I pick up, say Federal hulls and reuse them?
If you look at the load info, then you understand that shotgun loads are not nearly as flexible as metallic loads. If you pick up Federal hulls, then you usually use a Federal primer, Federal (type) wad, etc. Same with Winchester and Rem. So step 1 is to find out what's most plentiful in your area and stick with that one hull. Also be aware that not every hull is reloadable. So be selective in your hull hunting.

I highly suggest the Lyman #5 before you get too carried away.

41 Mag
March 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
Head over to your local library and see if they on the outside chance have a copy of the Lyman Shotshell Manual. Even if it is an older one you will quickly see what folks ahve been referring to.

Loading shotshells is like cooking, you follow the recipe or you end up with a bad taste in your mouth. THe lyman manual details all the different loads for the individual type of shell, it list the primers powder, wads, weight of charge, such and so forth. You basically look what supplies you have locally and then pick the best load for the cases you have to use them in. THey aren't all Win-Win and Rem- Rem, but pretty close.

Your savings will come with the volume at which you use them, and which loads your working with. As mentioned for a casual half to a dozen or so boxes a year I wouldn't sweat it. When I was shooting, I would burn through a case a week easily. Using the WW shells, and duplicating the factory loads I easily paid for my equipment and then some. This was MANY years ago and even though I only started out with a single stage press, I was still in school and could easily burn the midnight oil to keep my shell box topped off.

Peter M. Eick
March 15, 2012, 08:52 PM
The honest assessment is that unless you can get your shot cheap somehow, the costs are break even for most trap/skeet loads. I know I reload sporting clays rounds because I like to reload but frankly I am saving at most a buck per 25 and that buck is going to cover the costs of the reloader.

gamestalker
March 15, 2012, 10:15 PM
My policy regarding hulls is use anything that you can find common components for. I load mostly STS's, AA's, and Gold Medal, but as I said, if you can load other hulls without having to buy special wads for them your good to go.

GarySTL
March 16, 2012, 12:57 AM
I shoot at the Olin range in East Alton IL once a month. You pay for the "game" and that fee includes ammo, Winchester AA loads. I can shoot four games and come home with 300 once fired AA hulls as some of the fellows don't reload. Can always buy once fired AA hulls from them for 2 cents each too.

broken_line
March 16, 2012, 09:42 AM
ballistics products or precision reloading or bucks run sports are your best bet for cheap stuff.. as stated its close to cheap target loats... but the quality of your handlads will be right up there if not better than the $9 a box AA shells.. i can get a box for arund $1.25 but i make my own shot from free scrap lead. also spend a little extra on a progressive..

rsrocket1
March 16, 2012, 11:15 AM
I just took a WAG at this yesterday. Correct me if I missed something:
$22/25# local reclaimed shot
$115/8# Clay Dot Powder
$12/500 wads
$24/1000 primers
free hulls
for 1oz, 18g loads, it's right around $3.60 per box. With an el cheapo Lee loader, you can recoup your costs with 25 boxes. You could do better with a used Mec 600 for probably the same price. As tedious as that is, you could pretty easily load 100 rounds in half an hour.

The nice thing is you can get other sized shot and even if you pay crazy retail price for a bag of 00 buck, loading it costs very little.

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