Would you stay in a state that stopped allowing you to carry


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gym
March 13, 2012, 02:36 PM
I have lived in 2 states all my life. NY and FL. I had a license to carry in both. I started carrying in 1972-3. When I sold my business in the mid 90's, I had to turn in my carry permit. I made a concious decision then, "being single" that if I was going to start a new business, I may as well do it where it was warm, and I could carry a gun.
Having spent so much time in FL, I pretty much knew where and what I wanted to do, but it cost me about half of what I had saved, waiting 2 years to sell 2 apartments and a business.The business went right away, it was well known and esstablished, but it was the last housing slump in the early 90's, and co-ops and condo's were not moving, but I stuck it out and finally got out.
I couldn't conceive of suddenlly not having a permit and a gun. Especially after all i had seen, and having had my gun save my life on more than one occasion. What would you do it for some crazy reason, your state suddenlly said no more carry. Would you move to another state of just accept it and just go without. I'm curious to see how this turns out

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BP Hunter
March 13, 2012, 02:41 PM
Gun ownership though very important in my life will not be the deciding factor as to what state I would live in. There are more imortant things such work, family and such. But thank God, that WA state is a relatively gun-friendly state.

wyohome
March 13, 2012, 02:45 PM
So you would be fine with the state taking away your 2nd Amendment rights?

Tim37
March 13, 2012, 02:47 PM
at this point in my life i would have to say no there are more important things to me right now. later on in years i might consider it.

gpr
March 13, 2012, 02:53 PM
welcome to florida, the gunshine state.....my situation is oppisite yours....i live in florida, but have inherited property in ny....when i fly in to erie it is no problem transporting a weapon.....when i fly through buffalo, i go naked....how had is it to get a permit, not in ny city.....gary

Sam1911
March 13, 2012, 02:54 PM
I have arranged my plans and goals to allow me to live in a state that has a very favorable 2nd Amendment climate. That has involved distinct sacrifices at times.

If I woke up tomorrow and one of the factors I cherish was taken, I'd probably start trying to align my plans to move again.

Stevie-Ray
March 13, 2012, 04:07 PM
If Michigan were to go back to the "old days" of getting a permit at the anti-gun head LEO's discression, I would definitely have already become one of their biggest pains in their backsides, through grassroots activism. If it simply wasn't doing any good and things were looking even bleaker for the future, I'd be getting out of this state and not even give it a second thought, even though I've been here all my life. Our governor already hit us with state taxed pensions for the first time in history, so he's already on my you know what list.

heeler
March 13, 2012, 04:23 PM
I would be extremely suspicious if my state took that right away.
I would fight very hard politically to have them change course,but alas if it were a no go I would then go somewhere else.

GambJoe
March 13, 2012, 04:47 PM
Texas will welcome you.

ForumSurfer
March 13, 2012, 04:52 PM
If I woke up tomorrow and one of the factors I cherish was taken, I'd probably start trying to align my plans to move again

What he said. I'd miss it here, though. I'm within a days ride of The Blue Ridge Parkway (one of the most scenic roads in the US snaking through the smoky mountains) and under 3 hours from the coast.

guyfromohio
March 13, 2012, 04:55 PM
I've turned down promotions that would have landed me in NJ.

Loosedhorse
March 13, 2012, 05:02 PM
NYS didn't "stop allowing you to carry"--its rules were stable, but you changed in regards to no longer fitting its requirements. No surprises, so you had time to plan. My guess is that when you sold your business, you started your move out of state.

It is odd that NYS would withdraw your permit just because you sold your business. We can hope that will change soon.

I guess one of the factors for me would be why they withdrew my license. If it was arbitrary and unexpected, that for me might be harder to live with than something I had time to plan for. But unless you're single, as you say, the decision to move involves more than one person.

SharpsDressedMan
March 13, 2012, 05:13 PM
Naw. There are at least 40 some other states that treat you like an adult..........

Midwest
March 13, 2012, 05:29 PM
It is odd that NYS would withdraw your permit just because you sold your business.



Likely when he sold his business, that made him no longer qualified to carry because he no longer had a "justifiable need" in the eyes of the law in New York City. The only way to get a carry permit in NYC is to have a large cash business or carry diamonds or other valuables as a part of a business. In the older days it was possible to get a carry permit if you had a business, but then NYC started upping the threshold over the years as to what is a justifiable need.

Paris
March 13, 2012, 06:32 PM
Would you stay in a state that stopped allowing you to carry?

No.

splattergun
March 13, 2012, 06:57 PM
Having always lived where RTKBA is respected, I can say I shall never move TO a state that prohibited same. I likely will never visit any of those places either. I'll spend my hard-earned dough in free states.

As for moving away from one? I think I would have to choose to live elswhere. or choose living as an outlaw and carrying anyway. just my opinion.

BSA1
March 13, 2012, 07:45 PM
Let me put it this way. I would not let a lack of permit keep me for carrying if I felt I really needed to.

627PCFan
March 13, 2012, 07:47 PM
My location used to read : Maryland.
Now it reads: Virginia
Despite family being there, I do visit but I do my best to spend as little money in that state.

Bobson
March 13, 2012, 07:58 PM
Currently, I don't carry a firearm when I'm not required to (required to by my employer, for instance), and I never have; but I do plan to begin carrying regularly in the near future. Having said that, even if I knew I wouldn't ever carry, I would do everything in my power to relocate ASAP if that right was ever taken away.

rsrocket1
March 13, 2012, 08:02 PM
Do you think these fellow Floridians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw&feature=related) have permits to carry and share the sunshine state with you? I wonder if they buy mail order through a licensed FFL or completed a firearms safety course.

Greetings from California where guns are illegal and pot is a medicine.

mljdeckard
March 13, 2012, 08:07 PM
It would depend on the circumstances, but eventually I would wind up back in Utah.

tomrkba
March 13, 2012, 08:09 PM
I don't have Second Amendment rights in Virginia. I have the right to keep and bear arms under Section 13 of the constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

I would leave this state if Section 13 were repealed.

rcmodel
March 13, 2012, 08:13 PM
Nope.
I would not move.

No advocating this for anyone else certainly, but.
I always believed in the "Rather I be judged by 12 then carried by 6" thing.

I have carried CCW off & on for about 50+ years when I felt it necessary.
Before & after the state CCW became law in 2006.

Thank god I have never in all those 50+ years had to use a ccw, or been stopped for doing something foolish by the cops and charged with it.
Knock on wood.

I have always believed defending yourself & your family to the best of your ability was a Law of Nature, not something sold to me by the State in the form of a $150 "permit" every four years.

If push comes to shove someday?
I will cross that road when I get too it I guess.

rc

writerinmo
March 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
The wife and I are "early retiree's"... I went early on a Federal disability annuity at 47, she is just now on permanent disability for an on-the-job injury at 47 as well. She has a lawsuit in the process of settlement talks with the companies workman's comp attorney's, given the length of time that her attorney's have put in on the case it's plain to see that they expect a decent settlement.
Since neither of us will be bound by the job market, we have been looking at various states as far as relocating. We have a list of things that we "want" and some that are absolutes, and have crossed off quite a few states as no-brainers. Even though she has a sister that lives in California, we both agree that will never happen, but are considering Arizona, Oregon, Nevada primarily, with Florida and Texas close behind. As concealed carry permit holders, that is one of the major considerations, right behind taxation, vehicle registration and cost of living and weather.

parsimonious_instead
March 13, 2012, 08:15 PM
I already live in NY, where the situation is already bad enough to make it a huge factor in wanting to move.
However, I do own a bunch of guns that I cherish and get to shoot a fairly large number of them at a really awesome range that's all of about 30 mins by car from Manhattan.
That said, the other driver of a major out of state move would be to hopefully have better luck in the "dating" game. Unfortunately the two seem to be sort of in conflict - Washington, DC for example has the highest percentage of singles but has the most restrictive gun laws.

Wes B
March 13, 2012, 08:29 PM
No.

When I look for jobs, not an often occurence, there are states that I don't even consider; Illinois for example.

The War Wagon
March 13, 2012, 08:37 PM
NO. :mad:

huntsman
March 13, 2012, 08:42 PM
Would you stay in a state that stopped allowing you to carry

yes because I've lived at the same location for close to fifty years, what I would do is withdraw and limit my time off the homestead to brief shopping trips in a small town about 8 miles away.

gym
March 13, 2012, 08:59 PM
Midwest is correct, once you sell the business you have to surrender the license. It's predicated on the need that the business requires. I would not have been able to renew it under those circumstances, but it was still in effect until I closed up the corp. which it was issued to.

Samari Jack
March 13, 2012, 09:06 PM
No. Especially in the socialist leaning states of California, NJ, NY and most of all Washington DC. I just wouldn't feel safe in these places. Not that I would carry all the time, it is just the bad guys KNOW you are unarmed and as I've gotten older and with MS look the part of an easy mark. Bad guys don't a handicap sticker as a free ride and move on to someone else.

Old krow
March 13, 2012, 09:35 PM
Not immediately, but I would look at trying to get out. It's pretty important to me, and while I cannot carry all the time I sort of look at it as a barometer for freedom.

TenRingGuns.com
March 13, 2012, 10:10 PM
Nope.

ShawnC
March 13, 2012, 10:11 PM
I am lucky in that I have a job which allows me to carry anywhere and I live in a pretty gun friendly state, so for me it isn't an issue. But, were I single, and lost that job, I would consider moving.

Orkan
March 13, 2012, 10:27 PM
I will not live in a state that does not allow me to EASILY carry. By easily, I mean does not "infringe" upon my right to bear arms in any way.

Registration = Infringement
Waiting periods = Infringement
No CCW = Infringement

If South Dakota becomes unfriendly to gun ownership, I will uproot my businesses and move. Without my 2nd Amendment rights, I cannot secure the rest of them from infringement, nor keep my family safe. It's a deal breaker.

MAJ Mike
March 13, 2012, 10:43 PM
I would move. Fortunately, I live in Texas and have no desire to move to a non-carry state.

Tomcat47
March 13, 2012, 10:57 PM
I would move.....however!

Tim....has a point! It would have to be feasible to do so economically speaking!

So therefore, I would start making it feasible, and until the relocation I would join the sheriffs dept! :D

Orkan
March 13, 2012, 11:06 PM
It would have to be feasible to do so economically speaking! It's always feasible. It comes down to people being unwilling to sacrifice anything to maintain their freedom. They would rather have money than firepower.

I know, because I made the conscious choice. I lived in WA and made a large amount of money. I moved to SD to be free, and I still haven't come close to the income or even ratio of income that I had in WA. Yet I'm completely happy.

You can make choices based on freedom, or money. Pick one that is to come first, because both cannot be your primary concern. If you pick money, you have no right to complain about your choice.

Inebriated
March 13, 2012, 11:07 PM
Being 20, I've got a lot of options ahead of me. I have been planning around things I enjoy, and career options as I get closer to graduating. I like shooting, hunting, and Jeeping... AZ, NV, CO, and UT sound like good options. BUT... I've got a lot of friends, and all my family here in NC, as well as a very real and very likely career option. So it's a balance between what I want to do, and what I have to do.

heeler
March 13, 2012, 11:46 PM
Writerinmo...Most of the states you listed are reasonably firearms friendly.
One at least is open carry if that's your way.
But my home state of Texas is state income tax free.
Lot's of issues to consider before settling.
It's truely hard to fathom at times just how far apart certain states in our nation are on a lot of freedom issues that are at the very heart of our constitution.

Twiki357
March 14, 2012, 12:42 AM
Back in the 1980's, when my employer was taken over by another company, I chose to find a new job rather that relocate from los angeles to san francisco. When I retired in 2002, I made a mad dash to get out of ********** (L.A.) and move to Arizona. Although gun laws were not the reason I picked AZ, going from the top brady rating of 81 to a brady rating of zero, certainly didn't hurt my feelings, especially with all the anti-gun legislation in Kali in the last 10+ years.

leadcounsel
March 14, 2012, 01:50 AM
It's a primary factor on where I move. I've omitted places from my potential moves that non-gun people would love; Germany, Italy, California, Hawaii, DC...

I would not choose to live in an anti-gun state. If my residence turned anti-gun I would leave at the earliest opportunity.

I am very employable and would be fine anywhere in the nation. I would choose a place that appears least likely to go anti-gun.

HoosierQ
March 14, 2012, 06:50 AM
I think I would stay only as long as economic factors forced me to. You can't eat 2nd Amendment rights or put a roof over your head with a gun!

Post is rather pointless, IMHO, because states are rather relentlessly endorsing CC. Ohio has had it now for a few years. Wisconsin, one of the last hold-outs, has it now (lots of people would have never predicted that one just a couple years ago).

The crooks and commies running the state of Illinois (aka Chicagoland) may someday allow it but that seems unlikely. That state will split in two before that happens probably.

Biggest risk for loosing ground is in places like NJ, NY, MA where the population is overwhelmingly urban (the good folks of up-state NY are just like the good folks of down-state IL...screwed).

Konstantin835
March 14, 2012, 07:05 AM
When I graduate college I plan on moving to a more gun friendly state (NY now). Fortunately if I end up going to college for what I am currently thinking of going for, most of the jobs are out west where the gun laws are better anyway. If NY bad better gun laws I might consider staying but I doubt that will change.

thefamcnaj
March 14, 2012, 07:13 AM
Owning/carrying a gun and being able to protect myself and my family is very important to me. How ever I couldn't just up root my wife and kids based only on having a cwp. My wife and I both are settled into good jobs and out kids love their school and their friends.
It would be strange to live here in SC with no gun and no permit. That being said, jobs are hard to come by in todays day and time. With all things considered I believe o would have to stay put here and stick it out in SC.

Plan2Live
March 14, 2012, 07:25 AM
I do want to get out of here eventually and I will only consider gun freindly states.

boscoman
March 14, 2012, 12:44 PM
I left Maryland for Virginia. The CCW issue was just one of many reasons for the move.

Agsalaska
March 14, 2012, 01:07 PM
Yea it would be a factor but not at the top of the list. Most of the places that restrict CC laws are places I would not want to live anyway, namely California, New York City, Mass and Il. Taxes, cost of living, weather, and general political climate would all be factors. Anti gun is a product of bad political climate. I cant think of a place with low taxes, great weather, good cost of living, thriving industry, and bad political climate.

AlexanderA
March 14, 2012, 01:17 PM
This thread is a counter-factual. The trend is toward more permissive carry, not less. Plus, we might well get national reciprocity before too long.

CountryUgly
March 14, 2012, 01:24 PM
Nope wouldn't stay.

SilentStalker
March 14, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nope. Even though carry is not my primary concern when looking for a place to live but I would definitely put that on my list of concerns as a deciding factor. If my state ever decided to change then yes I might look at moving as soon as I was able to because I believe a state that impinges upon the most basic of rights is doomed to do more damage. Luckily, I live in a pretty gun friendly state...

Skribs
March 14, 2012, 05:04 PM
As a smaller guy, I'm more in need of an equalizer. I'd go where the laws carry me.

harrygunner
March 14, 2012, 05:05 PM
I moved my business and myself out of California and I had a permit to carry concealed.

There's a correlation between restricted gun rights and restricted freedoms in general.

If you do a search on "business friendly states", "states ranked by personal freedom" and "states with strong gun regulations", you'll notice states like New York and California show up on the wrong end of every ranking.

I moved, not only because the gun regulations are illogical and frankly disgusting, but having a "nanny state" hover over personal and business decisions is something a grown person does not need.

Piney Woods
March 14, 2012, 05:13 PM
Would you stay in a state that stopped allowing you to carry?

Not just "No"... "Hell No!"

Deanimator
March 14, 2012, 05:49 PM
At various times in the last 10-12 years, my mother and cousin have tried to get me to move back to Illinois, Chicago in particular.

I would rather be homeless in Ohio than live in the ONLY state in the Union without ANY citizen carry.

Anti-gun states INVARIABLY have many OTHER qualities which I find loathsome. I find EVERY anti-gun state repugnant in SOME way, BESIDES just its imposed duty to be a victim for the first drooling, atavistic animal who comes along, be it corruption, racism, or police criminality.

gym
March 14, 2012, 08:38 PM
It fits in with the current administration’s policies of sneaking things so complicated and obscure that no one reads the anymore because they are thousands of pages long and are given out a day or a week before going into effect. We are being lulled into false sense of security about our 2A rights as of late. Giving us the right to own suppressors and full auto weapons, it makes me wonder what the catch is. Did they really give up and decide that they are just going to let us have what we want, when the powers that be are more deceitful and cunning than any before them? I think not. I also hope I am wrong, but will sleep with one eye open while I wait to see if this new liberty we have is permanent or temporary. Meanwhile the current administration is going to appoint 2 more Supremes if re-elected. When Ruth Ginsberg said a couple weeks ago to the Egyptian president that , Egypt's constitution should be applauded as what a modern day version of what ours should be, as Our constitution is outdated, it makes me wonder what lies ahead if they have a majority and can try to re-write the current version. i hope we vote this administration out of office for all our sakes, because as we saw many times before, nothing is farfetched. Stay vigilant, now our names are on documents, "I assume" when you apply for federal tax stamps etc". I haven't gone that route yet only for that reason, I would rather do without for now.But when the UN starts trying to petition our Government to strip away our gun rights it is something to be concerned about. Some states won't be bullied and others will use any excuse to strip us of what we hold so dear. i took a huge cut in my salary, owning businesses all my life in NY. But decided that after surviving a home invasion and a couple robberies, that it was more important to be at peace with myself and hold my future in "my hand" instead of some law enforcement agency who may or may not respond in time to be of any help. Only when you are looking down the barrell of a shotgun, do you realize how important it is to have the final say so on how you exit this world. I refused to allow anyone the right to play god over me and mine without at least having a fighting chance.You can be lucky only so many times.To live in fear is not to live at all.

wep45
March 14, 2012, 09:21 PM
in illinois.....we never got started:(

LeonCarr
March 14, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nope

Pacsd
March 14, 2012, 09:39 PM
I live in a pretty gun friendly state where a guy can have a loaded, in the chamber, rifle/shotgun/hand gun in the cab of a vehicle even during hunting season. Now, I see where Wisconsin has the carry law enacted. However, I will be willing to bet that if it ever does back to the Dems they will fight for a repeal. I left there in 1960 and never looked back.

zorro45
March 14, 2012, 09:47 PM
Dear gym, I would suggest that it might have been a good idea to negotiate a position as a consultant with the new owner of your former business in NY; the best time to do this is before the sale.

SleazyRider
March 14, 2012, 10:02 PM
Do you think these fellow Floridians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MGJ87hPGw&feature=related) have permits to carry and share the sunshine state with you?
Wow! That YouTube link you posted was amazing! I wasn't sure if I was watching a firearms safety video or undergoing sensitivity training. It could certainly use subtitles, however.

Walter
March 14, 2012, 10:37 PM
rcmodel posted
No advocating this for anyone else certainly, but.
I always believed in the "Rather I be judged by 12 then carried by 6" thing.

I have carried CCW off & on for about 50+ years when I felt it necessary.
Before & after the state CCW became law in 2006.

Thank god I have never in all those 50+ years had to use a ccw, or been stopped for doing something foolish by the cops and charged with it.
Knock on wood.

All I can say is, Me, Too! I tend to look at "laws" more as suggestions for behavior, rather than orders chiseled in stone. After all, there are exceptions to every rule, right? So I'll stay where I am and take my chances.;)

Walter

Dr_B
March 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
I definitely would not move to a state that didn't recognize my 2nd amendment right. However, I live in a state that does recognize it. If it were to change the laws, I would have a difficult time relocating because work is here and in my line of work it is not easy to relocate.

paradox998
March 14, 2012, 11:30 PM
I currently live in New York. As soon as possible I am getting out and taking my wealth with me. I cannot wait to move. The lack of respect for the 2nd amendment is overwhelming.

hermannr
March 15, 2012, 01:27 AM
I have moved from the country of my birth which has very restrictive gun laws, and now live, and am a citizen of, the US. Gun laws did influence what state we settled in, we Chose Washington state, in 1970.

Better than the 2A is Article 1 section 24 of the Washington state constitution. There is absolutely no doubt in the interpertation of "The right of the INDIVIDUAL..."

Dr_B
March 15, 2012, 02:17 AM
Better than the 2A is Article 1 section 24 of the Washington state constitution. There is absolutely no doubt in the interpertation of "The right of the INDIVIDUAL..."

I've seen that in the WA constitution. Its nice to see it stated plainly. In Idaho, it isn't stated plainly as an individual right, but Article I, Section 11 states no law shall be passed requiring registration of firearms and that confiscation is illegal unless a felony has been committed. E.g., a police officer cannot take possession of your weapon during a traffic stop.

parsimonious_instead
March 15, 2012, 07:11 AM
This thread is a counter-factual. The trend is toward more permissive carry, not less. Plus, we might well get national reciprocity before too long.

Very true, but progress can be halted and reversed if we don't stay vigilant.
Gun rights seem to ebb and flow in this country.
And while the general trend looks good, there are "bad pockets." a NYSRPA rep left a twenty-page printout of gun related legislation working its way through the New York State legislative bodies at my local gun range.

Pilot
March 15, 2012, 07:54 AM
I have refused three moves to Californina from my company largely because I'd have to sell over half of my guns to move there. The other reason was economically driven, taxes, cost of housing, etc. I did accept moves to CO, and KY, both very gun friendly and much better economically for me.

Bottom line is that gun laws are an indicator of freedom, and the general public's attitudes in that state, thereforer I avoid ones that restrict legal gun ownership, and carry. I think it is a good barometer.

303tom
March 15, 2012, 09:52 AM
No..................

SleazyRider
March 15, 2012, 10:38 AM
... progress can be halted and reversed if we don't stay vigilant. Gun rights seem to ebb and flow in this country.

So very true. And while it is fashionable to put down New York and its draconian gun laws, what some of the chest-thumpers on this board don't seem to realize is that the loss of their gun rights in their so-called "free" states is just a signature or two away; their freedoms exist at the whim of their governing body. It can happen ... and where will you move then? The bottom line is that the restrictive firearms laws in any state is an affront to all who support the Second Amendment regardless of the state in which one currently resides.
Would you expect, for example, one who has an established cardiology practice in New York to pack their bags and move to Idaho because of our 10-round magazine restriction? Or to uproot one's family regardless of their spouse's or children's feelings? Get real. Illinois's problem is equally Utah's problem as New Jersey's is Montana's. New York City's gun and knife laws should be an affront to all of us who love liberty regardless of where you live, and the sooner we start thinking of the whole rather than the parts, the safer our liberties will be.

mgmorden
March 15, 2012, 11:52 AM
Carrying? I probably wouldn't move. I made it many years without a carry permit and still due to many factors only carry maybe 10-15% of the time I'm in public. Carrying is something that I exercise when its convenient, and if it's not, then I have no issues not doing so.

Now if I was told that I couldn't OWN guns or shoot them at the range, then that might influence a moving decision.

gym
March 15, 2012, 12:50 PM
Please Vote. if you aren't regisered, it takes a few minutes of your time on the computer. I even got an absentee ballot. You don't even have to leave the house. It's really important. if OB gets in again, we are in deep do do. He will have nothing to lose as a "lame duck" president. And will try to leave his mark by crippling us in whatever way he can. With a biased Supreme court in his pocket, we will shurlly be screwed. Just this one time , if you never voted before or frown on the process, please think about what can happen, and vote this time. Vote out all the bums who have given themselves raises while we all take a hit. Dump the bums who can't even pass a budget. Fire the creeps who want to cut out military spending to shreds, and scrap projects that we have sunk 10 to 15 years in and trillions of dollars. Like the joint strike aircraft, and new weapons systems for our troops.
The reason we are strong is basically our superior air power, lose that and we are screwed. The koreans have a 1.2 million man army. There are a lot of crazy, Chavez, type dictators with heavy duty weapons, possibly nuclear, we can't allow this president to sell us down the river. He is destroying us from the inside.We need a million man army trained to the hilt. More special ops teams, an seal teams. Better equiptment, the oil is out there he just won't allow us to drill for it.I know we have a poor selection to choose from, but the main thing is to remove him and his cronies, Half of which caused the fall of the economy last time. Get them out for good.

joed
March 15, 2012, 12:57 PM
Ohio did not have CC for many years, I still carried. My life is a bit more important to me then following the law. I pretty much called someone an idiot that was complaining about working in a high crime area and working for a company that wouldn't allow him to carry. Would any of you want to die for the company you work for?

gym
March 15, 2012, 01:22 PM
No and I had HRS call me into his office because they ran a check and it came back that I had a carry for 30 years ,"at the time, "10 years ago.
He actualy asked me why I had a gun. I told him it was none of his business. He had refused to shake my hand whe I walked in. I kenw right then what I was dealing with.
He then went on about not bringing guns into the workplace and not in the car either. That's where I drew the line. I neve would bring a gun to a business where I worked and didn't have permission. But my car is off limits I told him it's not his business, and he threatned to search my car, i then told him I would have him arrested for breaking into my vechicle, as he did not even own the parking lot where I parked. I told him to F, off, he said he was contacting legal, I told him that was a good idea since he didn't know what he was talking about.
I left, and nothing was ever done, although I decided I didn't want to work for these guys, and left after I made sure he could do nothing, stayed just long enough to stick it in his face.Of course he was a CA executive. brought to FL to make sure things were running right. Far right.I really laid him out once he got nasty, I told him he was a pompous ass, who was miss informed and didn't even know the laws of the state he was in. I also told him I made more money than he ever did and he wa a "little man" with a big ego. And if he wanted to take it any further with the personell attacks, I could accomadate him at his pleasure, as he threatned me several times. explained he was in the South now, and we try to be gentlemen, but if you are looking to mouth off,that won't be tolerated. This is the type of jerk that can ruin your day if you let him.

mr.scott
March 15, 2012, 01:42 PM
I would stay and file lawsuites against the state.

ObsidianOne
March 15, 2012, 01:57 PM
Nope, I would not. Nor would I move to one.

hariph creek
March 15, 2012, 04:48 PM
I would not stay, I would not move to one.
I will not work for an employer who says ''no guns.'' They don't have to be pro-gun, just not anti-gun.

GBExpat
March 15, 2012, 05:31 PM
Would you stay in a state that stopped allowing you to carry

Yes, it would take MUCH more to get me to move again. I spent 20 years having to move periodically (P.I.T.A!) and have been in this house for the last 20+.

I plan on my Obit (hopefully in the distant future :)) showing this as my address.

Jonah71
March 15, 2012, 07:09 PM
No.

Atroxus
March 15, 2012, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't if I could afford to leave. At the moment though I would have to stay put. Luckily in my state that type of change would require changing the state constitution so hopefully I won't ever have to make that choice.

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Deltaboy
March 15, 2012, 11:26 PM
I have lived in 2 states all my life. NY and FL. I had a license to carry in both. I started carrying in 1972-3. When I sold my business in the mid 90's, I had to turn in my carry permit. I made a concious decision then, "being single" that if I was going to start a new business, I may as well do it where it was warm, and I could carry a gun.
Having spent so much time in FL, I pretty much knew where and what I wanted to do, but it cost me about half of what I had saved, waiting 2 years to sell 2 apartments and a business.The business went right away, it was well known and esstablished, but it was the last housing slump in the early 90's, and co-ops and condo's were not moving, but I stuck it out and finally got out.
I couldn't conceive of suddenlly not having a permit and a gun. Especially after all i had seen, and having had my gun save my life on more than one occasion. What would you do it for some crazy reason, your state suddenlly said no more carry. Would you move to another state of just accept it and just go without. I'm curious to see how this turns out
I would sell out ASAP and move some where I could carry.

CDR_Glock
March 16, 2012, 12:15 AM
No. Crime is usually higher in those states. Gun Laws only make non-felons and law abiding citizens into criminals.


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Serenity
March 16, 2012, 12:40 AM
Well, I would like to think that I would do the same as mr. scott...

JPG19
March 16, 2012, 12:41 AM
Absolutely not.

SouthernBoy
March 16, 2012, 10:55 PM
I don't have Second Amendment rights in Virginia. I have the right to keep and bear arms under Section 13 of the constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

I would leave this state if Section 13 were repealed.

Section 13 of our state constitution is the basis from which James Madison wrote the Second Amendment. Virginia is probably the most gun-friendly and gun-lenient state in the South so I have very serious doubts that we will ever see and end to our right to bear arms. But I am not so naive to believe that what seems to be the impossible cannot happen.

I would leave my beloved Virginia should she ever pass such a tragic thing into law.

1911Tuner
March 18, 2012, 12:55 PM
The core problem is in the thread title. We've already been indoctrinated with the idea that all things come from government...and that which is "allowed" by the government is all we may legally have.

2A comes neither from the government nor the Constitution. 2A doesn't "grant" us the right to keep and bear arms. It recognizes that it's a right, and guarantees it...but that's all. Privileges are granted, and privileges can be revoked at whim. When we begin to believe that RKBA is a privilege granted by government, we are on the road to accepting that it can be revoked...at whim.

Even the much celebrated CCW permit is part of that mindset.

We beg for permission to exercise a Constitutional right...pay the bribe...er...the tax...er...the fee...and we're happy about that? Really?

And like good serfs, we obey. Well...most of us, anyway. I find it amusing that the dot-gov and the lawmakers really, truly believes that no otherwise law-abiding citizen has ever dared to carry a pistol or revolver concealed on his/her person before they condescended to give us their coveted permission-for-a-price.

They're just that arrogant. Good people have been carrying guns for about 250 years. They do that because bad people also carry guns and knives and saps and blackjacks, etc...and they don't care what the dot-gov doesn't allow.

"Mama don' 'low no git-tar pickin' 'round here. Mama don' 'low no git-tar pickin'
round he-ere."

"Well, I don't care what mama don' 'low, gon' pick my git-tar anyhow, and mama don't 'low no git-tar pickin' 'round here."

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