Rifle Self Defense Shootings


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Paris
March 13, 2012, 07:29 PM
I am looking for examples of self defense shootings where the attacker was stopped with a rifle. Examples involving an auto-loading rifle (of any variety) would be useful.

While I do find them interesting, examples of defense against large animals, military encounters and police encounters are not what I am looking for.

Thanks in advance.

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Positivity
March 13, 2012, 07:34 PM
I don't have any specific examples, but I could see a SBR being used in an HD scenario.

Paris
March 13, 2012, 08:22 PM
Yup, and I'm sure that they have. Just looking for incidents.

imac98374
March 13, 2012, 08:24 PM
15 year old boy with an AR?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-q2zHIovOE

LSMS
March 13, 2012, 09:13 PM
Think she could have said "assault rifle" a few more times?

ByAnyMeans
March 14, 2012, 08:45 AM
The story below unfortunately ends with the homeowner arrested possibly because of the choice of using an AK. One reason I left NY for PA.



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/07/long-island-man-arrested-for-defending-home-with-ak-47/

Jeff F
March 14, 2012, 09:01 AM
Their was that guy that worked for HK that defended himself and his girlfriend with a Ruger AC 556. I think there was a thread here on THR about it.

Bubbles
March 14, 2012, 09:31 AM
Their was that guy that worked for HK that defended himself and his girlfriend with a Ruger AC 556. I think there was a thread here on THR about it.

That would be Gary Fadden.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_168_28/ai_112685749/

Dr.Rob
March 14, 2012, 09:41 AM
NRA magazines have 'the armed citizen' and I have seen long arms mentioned a number of times. Someplace they have an archive of those you could sort through.

Loosedhorse
March 14, 2012, 09:50 AM
Simple odds would suggest that a significant number of any such non-LEO defensive shootings would have been done by a good ol' .22--probably a 10/22.

benEzra
March 14, 2012, 10:04 AM
I've seen news reports of several in the last 2-3 years but didn't save them. Quite a few AR's, at least one was a homeowner with an AK in Florida. Not all involved shots fired or resulted in injury to the home invader, and I do not believe they were treated any differently than if a shotgun or pistol had been in the homeowner's hands.

Blackstone
March 14, 2012, 10:10 AM
That Fadden article was very enlightening, thanks for posting it.

Jeff F
March 14, 2012, 04:35 PM
Thanks Bubbles, that was the one. That makes for a good read every now and again.

Whacked
March 14, 2012, 04:53 PM
look thru here

http://gunssavelives.net/

blarby
March 14, 2012, 04:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rz2wBYin4

I do believe this was an autoloader....

SharpsDressedMan
March 14, 2012, 06:43 PM
The big concern is whether you will be "painted" as some kind of gun nut, crazy person with an assault rifle, overgunned, bloodthirsty, etc, by a prosecutor, or plaintiff's attorney in a civil suit after using a long gun in a defensive shooting. My defense, should I ever need one, would be to call in several law enforcement people, trainers, tactical officers, etc, to state that they would PREFER to have a "superior" weapon in a hostile situation, and that it would be reasonably prudent to use one if it were available. Any professional and knowledgeable soldier or police officer knows that employing a superior weapon can enhance your chances of survival in a gunfight or self defense situation. If I have a rifle at hand, I will use it if I think it will give me an edge in my defense.

Cesiumsponge
March 14, 2012, 06:50 PM
Everyone should ask themselves, "can I articulate my actions in a court of law as justifiable?". Don't carry or use something if you can't articulate why you selected that hardware, or do something if you can't articulate your thought process.

dcannon1
March 14, 2012, 09:24 PM
http://gunssavelives.net/gun/rifle/

LAK
March 14, 2012, 11:09 PM
The Fadden article is very interesting. Fortunately the judge in this case exercized good sense:

"The prosecutor made such a show of waving the machine gun that the judge made a point of instructing the jury that the death weapon had nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not the shooting was self-defense" Emphasis mine

Anyone that finds themselves in any defensive shooting where the prosecution tries to make something out of what type of gun or ammo was used should make sure, insist, that their defense attorney lay this issue to rest.

Hypnogator
March 15, 2012, 12:00 AM
IIRC, a year or so ago, a young man used an AK-47 clone against some home invaders intending to rape and probably murder some partygoers near Atlanta. I have some add'l info in my archive -- will try to dig it up and post it for you.

Cesiumsponge
March 15, 2012, 01:24 AM
Unfortunately, the state in which Fadden was tried didn't have a policy of financial reimbursement for unmeritorious prosecution. He got half his legal fees paid for by HK and still owed $45k. I'm glad the state of Washington has RCW 9A.16.110 to reimburse legal fees and lost time for unmeritorious prosecution! I'm not sure how common this is, but that article is dated 1984 so perhaps it's a rather common statue today.

Ignition Override
March 15, 2012, 02:43 AM
Is there any way to estimate about how many times a home/shop owner felt the need to Display, or Use a rifle in the aftermath of a hurricane or other natural disaster in the US?

Double Naught Spy
March 15, 2012, 05:16 AM
NRA magazines have 'the armed citizen' and I have seen long arms mentioned a number of times. Someplace they have an archive of those you could sort through.

Yes, that would be a good place to look. In fact, I would be willing to bet that long guns were used about 13% of the time. However, I don't know how many were shotgun versus how many were rifle.

Okay, I cheated...
http://thinkinggunfighter.blogspot.com/2012/03/self-defense-findings.html

Salmoneye
March 15, 2012, 07:52 AM
The story below unfortunately ends with the homeowner arrested possibly because of the choice of using an AK. One reason I left NY for PA.

AK had nothing to do with the situation...The guy fired 4 'warning shots' into the ground in his front yard...

Man ws not indicted:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/uniondale-man-who-fired-gun-into-lawn-not-indicted-1.2432459

threoh8
March 15, 2012, 10:51 AM
Not a rifle stop, but a defensive use: In 1966 at the University of Texas, Allen Crum, a civilian, carried a rifle up the tower. IIRC, the rifle was an M1 Carbine. He guarded the exit at the observation deck while the two policemen engaged Charles Whitman. Crum fired one shot which may have distracted Whitman.

Double Naught Spy
March 15, 2012, 11:24 AM
Crum fired one shot which may have distracted Whitman.

LOL, Crum had an ND. If it did distract Whitman (who was on the other side of the tower), then the benefit was unintentional.

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