Blazer Aluminum Problem


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gunsNgearguy
March 15, 2012, 01:47 AM
Has anyone had accuracy problems with blazer aluminum case ammo? I have never shot aluminum case ammo through any of my guns until a few days ago. My local range had it super cheap so I figured I would try it out. Bought 200 rounds of 45acp and 200 9mm. I could not get a good group to save my life. The .45 I shot out of my Springfield TRP operator (full rail) which has been incredibly accurate since the day I got it. (POA=POI even out to 25 yards.) The 9mm I shot out of a glock 19. This ammo was horrible. I always shoot 6inch shoot N see targets at 25 yards and rarely miss. I usually use WWB and never had a problem. With this blazer, I struggled to get anything on the target. I could have had a bad day at the range but it seems unlikely to me because at the end of the session I shot out my carry ammo with a nice tight group, and a couple mags of WWB with the same result. Any idea why the blazer ammo was giving me problems? I really focused, worked on my fundamentals, and my shots were still all over the place with the blazer.

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Davek1977
March 15, 2012, 02:46 AM
Some guns don't like some loads. Just because a weapon is accurate with Brand X doesn't mean Brand Y is going to shoot the same. Its not necessarily the casing thats at fault...perhaps your gun doesn't like that particular bullet at that particular velocity. The same ammo you find inaccurate maybe someone's "perfect" ammo. Its all dependent on what your gun likes, whether we are talking a $100 Hi-point of a $1000 Kimber.

beatledog7
March 15, 2012, 08:31 AM
Remember when people played CD's?

You have one that's a little bit scratched and it won't play past a certain point in player A, but player B handles it fine. You have another one with a "factory defect," and it skips in player B but plays fine in player A.

The solution? Play each one in the player that plays it, and don't spend undue effort trying to figure out why things are as they are.

Where one crosses the line from due effort to undue effort is a personal choice.

crracer_712
March 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Yep, some people just think everything should work with everything. That's a perfect world, this is not.

Some people say well brand x ammo doesn't work in my gun, they accept it, cause brand y works great. Then along comes someone else and they say brand x works great in my gun, your gun has a problem, cuz my gun is the same as yours....

newbuckeye
March 15, 2012, 01:15 PM
Thats exactly why you should put at least 200 of your self defense rounds thru your CCW before you depend on it.

gunsNgearguy
March 15, 2012, 01:24 PM
Some guns don't like some loads. Just because a weapon is accurate with Brand X doesn't mean Brand Y is going to shoot the same. Its not necessarily the casing thats at fault...perhaps your gun doesn't like that particular bullet at that particular velocity. The same ammo you find inaccurate maybe someone's "perfect" ammo. Its all dependent on what your gun likes, whether we are talking a $100 Hi-point of a $1000 Kimber. Ive heard this before, Ive just never run into that problem myself. I'll stick with Federal and WWB. Thanks for the replies.

tekarra
March 16, 2012, 07:25 PM
Blazer aluminum is my go to range ammo and accuracy is very good in my pistols, better than most other ammo. However, that does not mean it will shoot accurately in your pistol. Different pistols like different ammo so shoot a variety until you find one your pistols like.

sedona
March 16, 2012, 08:59 PM
I shot some today at the range and noticed the blazer aluminum wasn't as accurate as the wwb in my glock 17.Not a huge difference but definitely noticeable.

chanroc
March 18, 2012, 03:54 PM
Guess I'm lucky. I tend to shoot better groups with CCI Blazers than Federal Champions out of my Smith M&P, Sig 229, and Glocks. I'm not as good of a shot with a 1911, so I can't comment on my Kimber's ammo preferences.

poco loco
March 18, 2012, 04:10 PM
I learned to never leave Blazer ammo in a tube magazine, I had one split just sitting there and lock the rifle up real good....easy enough to tear down and fix but it cured me of Blazers, at least in pistol caliber leverguns.....

browningguy
March 18, 2012, 05:41 PM
I try to make it a habit never to shoot aluminum ammunition out of my guns.

Nuclear
March 18, 2012, 07:55 PM
Never had any problems with it. Not quite as accurate as some more expensive loads I've shot in 9mm or 45ACP, but good enough for target practice or casual competition.

The War Wagon
March 18, 2012, 08:04 PM
Been shootin' it for 20 years now, including in 10mm. Save for the occasional extractor ripping the rim off (and then you gotta poke the case out of the chamber!), I've never had an issue with it.

robmkivseries70
March 18, 2012, 08:24 PM
No problems with .45 ACP in my 1911 Springfield, or FNP. 9mm is fine in an FNX.
Best,
Rob

wally
March 19, 2012, 02:26 PM
I shot tons of the 9mm CCI aluminum Blazer back when Academy had it for $3.86/50. Never had any issues in any of my pistols or 9mm AR carbine.

The aluminum .45ACP & .40S&W always seemed to work OK but I shot much less of this than the 9mm since these were still cheaper to reload for.

Of course this doesn't mean what they are making now is the same as what they made back then.

1chemist
March 19, 2012, 05:00 PM
Yes, you could say that I've had "problems" with Blazer aluminum...
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The worst part of all was dealing with the knucklehead from CCI Speer on the phone, who implied that it was all my fault somehow. He actually said, "You check all the wheels on your car before you drive it, don't you?" To which I said "Huh? - ***? - And NO."

Needless to say, I decided to look elsewhere for my range ammo.

wally
March 19, 2012, 05:59 PM
I get "invalid link"

1chemist
March 20, 2012, 04:02 AM
Well, let's try again.
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Double Naught Spy
March 20, 2012, 10:49 AM
Are you making some sort of point, 1chemist?

dogtown tom
March 20, 2012, 11:58 AM
:what:
WOW!!!!! That NEVER happens with brass!
OMG OMG OMG.


yawn.

1chemist
March 21, 2012, 03:10 AM
The some sort of point I'm making is that - not only have I never seen this glaring failure of QC before in tens of thousands of rounds fired over three decades - but the official phone answering rep of CCI Speer seemed to think it was not their problem.

mainmech48
March 21, 2012, 01:59 PM
I've gone through several thousand rds each of 9x19 and .45 ACP Blazers over the years. Never experienced any chronic problems with them in any of my pistols. Accuracy might not have been of "Camp Perry" levels, but has been always more than 'good enough' for my purposes: training and practice.

EG: Went through nearly 2300 rds of .45 ACP Blazers in five days at the Chapman Academy several years ago. No malfs other than those set-up for clearance/emergency action drills and accurate enough to for me to be able to make the 50 yd shots included in the "Final Exam".

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