Modern 45lc double action


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pike0331
March 15, 2012, 12:38 PM
I'm a fan of revolvers over automatics. I love my Single action. 45 lc and love the round. I want a 45 lc revolver small enough to conceal. I've had my eye on the s&w 25 mountain gun. Does anyone have any alternate suggestions or any time with the s&w? Im hoping for some personal experience.

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rcmodel
March 15, 2012, 01:05 PM
The Mountain Gun is as good as it gets.

I have one in .45 ACP and I love it.

A friend has them in .45 Colt and .41 Mag and he loves them.

The thing is though, they are an N-Frame Smith, and N-Frames are kinda hard to CCW.

rc

56hawk
March 15, 2012, 01:07 PM
I have a 629 mountain gun. It's light weight which makes it nice to carry. Can be pretty brutal with full power 44 Magnum rounds. Should be pretty tame in 45 Colt though.

420Stainless
March 15, 2012, 02:50 PM
I love my .45 Colt Mountain Gun. Like RC says, its kinda big for cc, but I have tucked it comfortably in an OWB during the winter a few times. If you live in a mild climate it might work fine. I think Ruger still offers the Redhawk in .45 Colt, but it is even bigger than the N-frame - looks like a heck of a good gun though, especially if you like stout loads. Taurus did offer some fairly compact versions in .45 Colt, but I'm not sure how available they are.

eldon519
March 15, 2012, 03:07 PM
Taurus briefly made a 5-shot bulldog-style snub. Can't remember the model number.

MCgunner
March 15, 2012, 03:42 PM
Taurus briefly made a 5-shot bulldog-style snub. Can't remember the model number.

M450, I believe.

Nomad
March 15, 2012, 04:07 PM
Yep the Taurus is a Model 450 and the frame is smaller than the N frame of the Mountain Gun. It has a 2" barrel and requires the use of standard 45 Colt pressures. Have seen them around but they are a bit hard to find.

pike0331
March 15, 2012, 04:22 PM
Thanks ill look into the Taurus, I'm pretty sold on the smith, its large, and might become just a fun gun. It sure looks sweet. Can the 45 colt also chamber the 45 acp or auto rim?

rcmodel
March 15, 2012, 05:08 PM
No.

The .45 ACP guns headspace on the chamber shoulder like an auto pistol.
Or use half or full moon-clips to hold the cartridges in position with proper headspace.
.45 AR cartridges have an extra thick rim to add the moon-clip headspace distance.

They are too thick to allow the cylinder to close on a .45 Colt.

rc

mgkdrgn
March 15, 2012, 05:08 PM
I'm a fan of revolvers over automatics. I love my Single action. 45 lc and love the round. I want a 45 lc revolver small enough to conceal. I've had my eye on the s&w 25 mountain gun. Does anyone have any alternate suggestions or any time with the s&w? Im hoping for some personal experience.
I have a Taurus 450UL in 45 Colt that I pocket carry. You have to search them out as they have been out of production for several years.

CajunBass
March 15, 2012, 09:21 PM
Smith & Wesson 25-5, if you want to get away from a "Mountain Gun". This one has rounded off Magna grips that in theory make it easier to conceal, but anyway you look at it, it's a big gun. Great shooter though.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/CajunBass/handguns/100_0313.jpg

BCCL
March 15, 2012, 09:34 PM
CajunBass, that 25-5 is sweet!

Lawdawg45
March 16, 2012, 09:35 AM
My personal favorite and a breeze to conceal.

LD

saltydog452
March 16, 2012, 05:38 PM
You just gotta have that belch fire lashed down or snapped in somehow. How do you secure it?

salty

drunkensobriety
March 16, 2012, 07:51 PM
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Redhawk45.htm

Concealable, .45 lc, you'll -never- be able to make it stop working and you can throw in heavy duty loads in case roaming through dangerous territories.

Rexster
March 17, 2012, 06:24 PM
Mine is a Super Redhawk Alaskan, with an original-style GP100 factory grip, in .454/.45 Colt. (I reject the "LC" terminology.) I like a longer barrel on such a large frame, but this is what I have for now. The standard Redhawk has a grip frame too big for my hands; the same is true of S&W N-frames. A custom hybridization, with the SRH frame and Redhawk barrel as done by Bowen Classic Arms, might become a goal for me, or perhaps a Bowen-esque grip reduction, to make a Redhawk fit me, might work.

Loosedhorse
March 17, 2012, 06:32 PM
Governor?

Mountain Gun is listed as having an OAL of 9 3/8", weighing 43 oz; the Governor is 8.5, and weighs 30.

Swing
March 17, 2012, 07:13 PM
The Mountain Gun is a beauty. No experience with the Governor, but if it is anything like the Judge, no thanks.

Loosedhorse
March 17, 2012, 07:27 PM
if it is anything like the JudgeCan't tell you. The Judge handguns are illegal here. The carbines are legal.

The Governor handles well. American Rifleman (http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/smith-and-wesson-governor-review/) got 1.5 inch groups at 15 yards.

Guillermo
March 17, 2012, 07:49 PM
American Rifleman got 1.5 inch groups at 15 yards

S&W advertises heavily with the American Rifleman

TXSWFAN
March 17, 2012, 11:43 PM
My favorite DA only in .45 LC/.45 ACP is this converted S&W 625-3. It's still an N-frame, so it's not the smallest to CC, but it's not that difficult.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2587cyo.jpg

Hondo 60
March 18, 2012, 12:06 AM
The biggest difference between the Gov & the judge is that the Gov can shoot 45 Colt, 45 ACP & 410.
Whereas the Judge can NOT shoot 45 ACP.

I saw on another thread somewhere (and i think this works for me)

There are better guns that shoot 45 Colt.
There are better guns that shoot 45 ACP.
There are better guns that shoot 410.

Now if you really want one that does all three, then I guess the Governor is for you.

Rem.222
March 18, 2012, 12:26 AM
Why can't 45 colt Mountain Gun be milled to take moon clips to shoot 45acp any still shoot 45 colt?

Swing
March 18, 2012, 12:39 AM
Why can't 45 colt Mountain Gun be milled to take moon clips to shoot 45acp any still shoot 45 colt?

With the proper ministrations of a good 'smith, I'd imagine it could.

TXSWFAN
March 18, 2012, 01:59 PM
They can. This is the cylinder of the 625 I posted. Milled for .45 ACP moonclips.

http://i41.tinypic.com/156v5uf.jpg

StrawHat
March 19, 2012, 07:27 AM
TXSWFAN,

When you switch ammunition from ACP to LC, is there enough adjustment in the sights to make up the difference in point of impact? Or do you use Kentucky windage? Or do your loads just lump them in the same area? I have a replica of the Model P and with the fixed sights, I need to keep things in balance (ie 255 grain bullets @ 900fps) for bullets to hit in the same area.

jdmb03
March 22, 2012, 10:14 PM
I have a Redhawk 4" that I have been considering carrying, just have to find the right IWB.

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