How many loaded mags?


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wasr10634unme
March 15, 2012, 01:58 PM
do you keep for:

your primary defensive rifle

primary defensive handgun(ccw)

2nd defensive handgun(hd in my case)

i have 12 loaded mags for my wasr 10

3 spares for 1911

1 spare for my p95

i feel like im good for rifle but want lots more handgun mags

how many do you keep loaded that you dont carry and how do you store them?(my ak mags take up a few drawers in the top of my toolbox. prolly need to look for a dedicated gun toolbox.)

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The M
March 15, 2012, 02:01 PM
One loaded each for my edc 9mm and 1911. None for my rifles since I live in a congested area and rifles for defense don't make sense to me.

ObsidianOne
March 15, 2012, 02:04 PM
I keep one in my Ruger LC9 in my nightstand, which is my CCW and my home pistol, with 2 additional loaded magazines. Don't have a rifle I use for home defense, though I do keep 10 stripper clips with 10 rounds of 7.62x39 on them in the gun safe with the SKS, but again, that's not really it's intention, just ready to take when going shooting.
I do however have a Mossberg 500A that I keep with a tube full of 3" Magnum 00 buck in it near my bed.

Waywatcher
March 15, 2012, 02:07 PM
Always at least 2, sometimes 3.

I also have 6 mags for each.

Skribs
March 15, 2012, 02:08 PM
I don't have a rifle yet, and my shotgun is a tube magazine so I can't have spares.

I have a single spare for my LCP and a speedloader ready for my SP101. My XDm has 5 spares. I have 3 magazines each between the 11-round compact and 16-round full mags, total 6 (so 5 spares).

When I do get a rifle, I'll try to have a few spares.

None for my rifles since I live in a congested area and rifles for defense don't make sense to me.

The higher velocity allows for better control over what happens to the bullet. Rifle bullets designed for HD are actually less likely to overpenetrate than a shotgun or a handgun. Hollow point handgun rounds are actually the worst at overpenetrating through drywall, because the hollowpoint clogs up and fails to expand, thus penetrating like an FMJ.

mgmorden
March 15, 2012, 02:11 PM
I keep one loaded mag in my carry gun (Ruger LCP). At home I keep a S&W Mod 64 with a loaded cylinder.

None of the other guns or mags stay loaded.

As far of number of mags actually owned but not loaded, it varies. Some I only have a single mag for (my Makarov). Most of the handguns have at least 2 though and several that I shoot more frequently (my Glock, my M&P, my Walther P-1, and my Ruger P95) have between 5 and 8 each.

I think I've got 6 or 7 for the AR15.

Jeff F
March 15, 2012, 02:11 PM
I only keep 2 loaded mags for my sidearms, 1 in the gun and a spare. Same with my Mini 14 and ARs. 99% of the time a malfunction is mag related or can be corrected with a mag change.

TXSWFAN
March 15, 2012, 02:39 PM
How many loaded mags?

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do you keep for:

your primary defensive rifle

100 FAL mags-2000 rounds

primary defensive handgun(ccw)

3 mags-45 rounds

2nd defensive handgun(hd in my case)

Im my case, the back up is the M16. 100 mags-3000 rounds.


The above in red is what is close by.

DoubleTapDrew
March 15, 2012, 03:20 PM
All of them.

1KPerDay
March 15, 2012, 05:00 PM
All of them.
Agreed.
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Teachu2
March 15, 2012, 05:06 PM
Two spares for my 1911, two for my HiPoint 4595, all I can find for my M&P 15. Really, if I get to the second mag on the 1911, we're going mobile...

rcmodel
March 15, 2012, 05:10 PM
Murphy's Magazine Law.
1 = 0
2 = 1
3 = 2
4 or more = 4 or more.

rc

armoredman
March 15, 2012, 05:20 PM
I was supposed to count?

JohnBiltz
March 15, 2012, 05:23 PM
Except for some magazines I keep for range use and dry fire, all of them and no I'm not counting them either.

Sauer Grapes
March 15, 2012, 05:49 PM
Geez, I only have 1 handgun loaded with 1 extra mag. You guys must be in a bad Zombie area!!! LOL

gym
March 15, 2012, 06:03 PM
3 for each including my AR. Loaded. My pocket pistol, "bug" just 2, it's really for emergencys. I do have 2, 33 round for my 2 glocks aside from the 3, those are loaded also.

1KPerDay
March 15, 2012, 06:09 PM
Geez, I only have 1 handgun loaded with 1 extra mag. You guys must be in a bad Zombie area!!! LOL
I don't like to load when I go shooting. I like to shoot. I load when watching TV. ;)

Highgate
March 15, 2012, 06:11 PM
Err, umm ... so in a firefight how many mags do you think you could consume before the Bad Guys got YOU?

Surely in a Bad Situation only a few vital seconds would count - possibly 2 or 3 mags max?

Or have I misunderstood something about the US threat environment?

hang fire
March 15, 2012, 06:32 PM
Enough.

hso
March 15, 2012, 07:15 PM
Or have I misunderstood something about the US threat environment?

No, but the outliers appear to be the high count instead of the +1-+3 posts.

For people that go to the range it is often easier to load magazines in their "spare" time instead of at the range (considering the cost of the range who wants to waste time loading magazines on the clock).

BP Hunter
March 15, 2012, 07:39 PM
Wow...why so much fire power?? How many assailants are we all expecting???

The Lone Haranguer
March 15, 2012, 08:00 PM
primary defensive handgun(ccw)

One loaded and in the gun, plus one in the chamber, one loaded as a spare.

writerinmo
March 15, 2012, 09:19 PM
5 for my SW40VE
2 for my P95 because I just got it recently and haven't picked up more
1-10 round and 3 30 round for my Saiga in 7.62x39, just ordered some more.

lono
March 15, 2012, 10:52 PM
All of them.

SlowFuse
March 15, 2012, 11:17 PM
Readily available I keep the following...

AR15 magazines - 6 - 30 rounders

CCW Glock - 1 in it and one spare close by

HD Sig Sauer - 1 in it and one spare close by

HD shotgun I'd say doesn't apply since its a Win 1300 (tube fed)

Of course, put away I have many more magazines. These mentioned are readily available. My theory is that I have the pistols at home to "fight to my rifle/shotgun" as some would say, if needed. If you need more than that, you're just one man in most cases and the force is much greater than you to begin with. IMO the amounts mentioned above should dispatch any average threat.

The-Reaver
March 15, 2012, 11:19 PM
I was supposed to count?

Exactly.


As many mags as I own are loaded.

Driftertank
March 15, 2012, 11:20 PM
At home, my guns are for SELF-DEFENSE and my loaded round count reflects this. I don't live in a warzone, and i'm not likely to be taking the fight to the street. That said, i don't have small children, and I've always believed that there are few things more pointless than an unloaded gun, so the few firearms i do keep at home stay loaded, with at least one reload close at hand.

Most of my guns actually live at a family member's house, since they have a very big, very sturdy safe and live in a better neighborhood. But i've got what i may foreseeably need. ;-)

jim243
March 15, 2012, 11:34 PM
You guys must be in a bad Zombie area!!! LOL

Area has been zoned for Zombie development.


Jim

Redneck with a 40
March 16, 2012, 12:30 AM
I only have my Ruger SR9-C loaded up for HD. One 17 round mag and one 10 round mag, so 27 rounds of 9mm on tap. I don't keep any rifles loaded.

bushmaster1313
March 16, 2012, 12:37 AM
I do however have a Mossberg 500A that I keep with a tube full of 3" Magnum 00 buck in it near my bed.

Have you ever fired a round of 3" Magnum 00 buck indoors in a room the size of your bedroom?
How long till you were able to get off another round on target?

JTHunter
March 16, 2012, 01:08 AM
Ruger 10/22 - 50 rd. mags (2 ea.) - solids & HP's (4 total).
AK - 4 - 40 rd. banana's with mixed JHP's, FMJ's, and PSP's, plus 2 - 75 rd. drums with same mix of ammo. I also have about 50 stripper clips prepped for reloading into the mags.
A .25, a .32, and a .380 all have only 2 clips each as they are all over 40 years old (the .32 is about 80!) and that is all they came with.

The War Wagon
March 16, 2012, 01:12 AM
ALL of them.

Being loaded does NOT stress them - loading AND unloading - continuously - stresses them.

Besides, at the moment of truth, there ain't no callin' "Timeout" with the badguys, while you do what you SHOULDA done when you BOUGHT the firearm!!! :o

exavid
March 16, 2012, 01:15 AM
Buckmark -2
SR22 - 2
LCP - 2
LC9 - 2
SR40c - 2
P345 - 2
10/22 4
AR15 5
S&W 28 N/A
Shotgun N/A

Teachu2
March 16, 2012, 01:45 AM
Err, umm ... so in a firefight how many mags do you think you could consume before the Bad Guys got YOU?

Surely in a Bad Situation only a few vital seconds would count - possibly 2 or 3 mags max?

Or have I misunderstood something about the US threat environment?

My highest probability of HD use on humans is a home invasion - so I'd say 4 BGs maximum. In all probability, three will run like hell when the first one dies, but magazines are cheap and they might as well be loaded. An empty gun makes a lousy hammer.

Train and prepare for worse that will happen, and you'll be a whole lot better off than underestimating reality.

sirsloop
March 16, 2012, 01:51 AM
One mag in my semi auto, one spare. Loaded cylinder in each of my .357s with one loaded speedloader, loaded shotgun -1 in the tube, plus 5 extra on the buttstock.

i dont plan on getting in any 1hr shootouts so I figure 10-20rds is more than enough :cool:

Dr.Rob
March 16, 2012, 01:51 AM
Seriously just a handful since "one is none and two is one."

3 speedloaders of .357 and a couple rifle mags unless I'm prepping for a match then it's 6-8 rifle mags or 10 + pistol mags.

JPG19
March 16, 2012, 01:56 AM
AR-15: 6x30rds
Glock: 3x15rds
Shotgun: 5rdz, tube fed

Much like many others, I don't see the point of buying magazines just to leave them empty.

JohnBiltz
March 16, 2012, 02:50 AM
I figure its no harder storing them loaded than empty and full magazines might be useful. Also if you have to bug out it could save some valuable time. I just don't see a reason to keep them empty. Why would you keep them empty? Seriously why? I see people snickering about loaded magazines so why keep them empty?

Bubba613
March 16, 2012, 09:36 AM
I cannot imagine a scenario that would require 12 loaded rifle mags that could pass the laugh test.
I have no loaded magazines at all. I have a cylinder full of .357mag. If that turns out not to be enough I'll be sure to post an apology.:neener:

fletcher
March 16, 2012, 10:49 AM
I keep three loaded mags for each rifle and my primary CCW. Mainly for convenience reasons.

Ryanxia
March 16, 2012, 10:54 AM
One loaded + one spare for my EDC. Same with my HD handgun. One loaded + 3 spare for primary HD rifle. That plus 6 rounds of 12 gauge should be able to keep some burglars away for a bit :D

mdauben
March 16, 2012, 12:14 PM
I don't like to load when I go shooting. I like to shoot. I load when watching TV.
This. I keep 150 rounds in magazines for my AR, not because I anticipate getting in a protracted firefight, but because I don't want to mess around loading them when I'm ready to go to the range. Likewise I have a half dozen loaded mags for my G17 and G21, several loaded speedloaders for my S&W 686 and 629 (need to get some for my 617, though).

303tom
March 16, 2012, 12:18 PM
A few....................

gym
March 16, 2012, 01:14 PM
It's also a matter of ammo selection. I keep a mag of fmj and a mag of JHP, depending on if I need to fire through walls,"interior" the exterior walls are concrete. So nothing is getting out. But if I have BG's outside my bedroom door, I could easily put several rounds through the plasterboard walls, or door. as no one else is in the house. Same with cars. If someone pulled up to your home, and shot at you from a vechicle, you have the option of switching to a FMJ round. I need to put that foil on my windows, it will slow down if not stop a 9mm round. I have been looking at some different companys that make the stuff. It's expensive, but less than bullett proof glass.
But most times after a shot or two are fired, everyone runs out the nearest exit. So having them is more mental than actually necessary. If you have 15 round mags, 2 should be more than enough. 1911's may require 3 or 4, if the fight continues outside.

Hocka Louis
March 17, 2012, 01:45 AM
Hmmm...

A loaded, holstered, 6+1 small-framed semiauto pistol in my nitestand (which I have carried).

A loaded pump-action shotgun with five rounds in the tube (empty chamber) and five in the sidesaddle hidden in a closet.

A loaded, holstered, 8+1 medium-framed semiauto w/a spare mag in its attached pocket, somewhere (which I've carried).

An unloaded takedown pump-action 10+1 capable .22 Mag. carbine truck gun with a speedloading tube and a box of 50 FMJ cartridges.

I have no loaded rifle mags.

jsimmons
March 17, 2012, 08:54 AM
I have two AR-15's and maintain 18 loaded 30-round mags (16 in bandoliers, one in each rifle), and six loaded 20-round mags.

I also have two 1911's, both in Condition 1, and maintain 12 spare loaded mags.

tarosean
March 17, 2012, 09:51 AM
A rock has more usefulness than an empty magazine...

Hocka Louis
March 17, 2012, 11:57 AM
Really? I'll give you a rock, a shiny one, for each of your magazines! Deal!?

Driftertank
March 17, 2012, 01:31 PM
Gym, the fight should never "continue outside" in a home/self defense shooting scenario. If they are fleeing, i don't know of any place in the US where you're in the right to press the attack.

If you believe it likely, or even possible, that you would need to engage multiple targets who are dug in and on the offensive against you outside your home, you either need to re-analyze your mindset or find a new place to live. No offense is intended.

In a HD/SD scenario, your goals are/should be, in order of priority:

1. Protect yourself
2. Cause the intruder to flee the premises (thereby removing the threat)
3. Eliminate the threat through use of force.

The tricky point is the (typically split-second) transition between 2 and 3, where the other party decides whether to flee or not. If they run, the situation is resolved in the eyes of the law. Going after them makes you the aggressor.
Sucks, i know.

Zach S
March 17, 2012, 01:52 PM
10 is a nice round number. I have surpassed that number... SHTF/range mags outnumber defense magazines by a large margin. The only exceptions are rimfire plinkers and my 9mm STI Spartan, which is a recent purchase. And being my first 9mm 1911, I cant cant use my other mags as I have in the past.

Geez, I only have 1 handgun loaded with 1 extra mag. You guys must be in a bad Zombie area!!! LOL
No, I do not. But I don't want to be loading magazines when walkers are knocking on my door.

Gtimothy
March 17, 2012, 01:59 PM
All of my mags, rifles, revolvers, pistols and shotguns are fully loaded and ready for whatever...

Shear_stress
March 17, 2012, 02:01 PM
One mag for the "nightstand" pistol and one for the carry gun. I guess I'll have to take my chances.

Ignition Override
March 17, 2012, 07:32 PM
Zero, and I don't have any handguns. Each home here has a security system, and among about one hundred homes, No home break-ins during the five years we have been here.
A neighborhood e-mail system reports crimes.

A magazine is only partially full when the SKS is at the river bottom. This helps prevent excess ammo consumption.

gym
March 18, 2012, 12:19 AM
Drifter if they are on my property and firing at me, I have every right to shoot back, this is FL and the castle doctrine extends to your property vechicle and even water craft, so perhaps it is you who needs to brush up on the laws of this state. As long as they are a threat and on my land they are subject to being shot.I have carried 40 years and know the NYC laws and the FL laws. If someone in FL is firing at me from a vechicle, on my property, they get FMJ's.I don't know how many gunfights you have been in but I can assure you i have had experience in these matters. You may have a bad guy covering an escape for his pals, while firing at you, if he is on my property it's my opton.If you did this in NYC you would be in violation, as your state is, most likelly. Down South the rules ar different.You have no duty to retreat.An agressor on your property with a deadlly weapon is out of luck, he can't even sue you if he lives.That's why I found a better place to live.
Miscellaneous Laws Include:
Under Florida law, there is no "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a lawful right to be. Instead, you may stand your ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others.



So, what happened to the retreat rule? Well, the only way to find out is read the other amendments and new sections in this Act together, as a whole. If you do that, and start with the amendment to F.S. 776.012 [Use of Force in Defense of Person], that section states a person has no duty to retreat if they “reasonably believe the force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily injury to themself or another, or prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. If taken literally, you can use deadly force anywhere and anytime, co-occupants be damned, so long as there’s a reasonable belief of imminent death or great bodily harm, or if you reasonably believe it’s necessary to stop the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
So if someone breake into my home, which is a forcible felony, I am not hog tied by the rules that you are. It's my decision as to when I believe that there is no more threat of imminent commision, it doesn't stop when he steps outside my door. If I feel threatned and someone points a gun at me, I don't have to run away, I can stand my ground and continue the fight untill it concludes.
You need to know the rules for each state before calling out members wit a hollier than thou attitude, and giving advice to others that you clearlly don't understand.

Tex4426
March 18, 2012, 01:52 AM
all the mags i have..if i have a mag its full...350 rounds of AR-15 mags loaded with 69g hollow points...2 mags of 9mm loaded with winchester supreme pdx1's (17 rounds each mag), would have more but im about to upgrade so buying more mags is pointless,,,thats the only 2 guns at my house right now all the other are at my dads in a fire safe

Tex4426
March 18, 2012, 01:55 AM
ignition...u really thing a gun barring criminal gives a hoot...it may nvr happen..someone may nvr break into my house but by god if the do they aint leaving if they are holding a gun..and if there not my gun will be at the back of ther head till the cops arrive..i hope i never have to use a weapon other then hunting but im a realist and am ready if i need to protect my family

Tex4426
March 18, 2012, 02:01 AM
as far as zombies..its fun to dream about..unlikely to happen...but lets say the economy falls and people result to stealing and killing..or say another country decides to invade..these are realistic possibilities and id rather be prepared than not...if you aint prepared then your already screwed...people are genetically built to survive so if it comes down to kill or be killed...for all you ppl who think guns are bad and you will never own one..sucks to be you

Swing
March 18, 2012, 02:03 AM
Four spares for the 1911 (vehicle), two for the Glock (nightstand), I forget (think like 6) for the Mini-14.

Driftertank
March 18, 2012, 04:43 AM
Gym, my apologies for misunderstanding your intent and my lack of knowledge of your state laws, i meant no offense by it. Where i live, and in most other places i have lived, pursuing a fleeing intruder would be considered an overly aggressive act and likely to result in prosecution, at the discretion of responding officers and/or DA's office.

I will admit that calling into question your mindset may have been out of line, and my comment about finding a new neighborhood referred to the assumption that a situation requiring you defend against multiple armed assailants outside the home would likely be the result of an altercation with some sort of Organized Crime group.

Again, no offense was, or is, intended.

Sorry for the threadjack.

gym
March 18, 2012, 11:18 AM
Thanks for that, no problem

rbernie
March 18, 2012, 11:31 AM
There seems to be an inference in this thread that storing loaded magazines == ZomBeeApokKeeLips planning. I fundamentally disagree with that premise. The way that I see it:

- There is a value in having extra magazines, since they do wear out and break. (I just had the feed lips on one of my polymer 7.62x39 AR15 magazines completely shear off in storage, unloaded. I've also had steel and aluminum magazines crack and/or break the feed lips off, and I've broken any number of magazines by dropping them.)

- There is value in having extra ammo on hand, due to inevitable fluctuations in supply and pricing.

- There is no more harm in storing spare ammo in a magazine than in the box that it came in.

- Storing extra ammo in the available magazines allows me to spend my time at the range shooting instead of loading magazines.

Seems simple enough. Just keep your storage in line with local fire codes, and all is good.

xfyrfiter
March 18, 2012, 11:39 AM
There are more states with laws that say you are in the wrong than the ones that say you can, Fla. laws are not the norm. That said I have three loaded for my edc, and 19 loaded for my hd rifle, because it don't hurt to be loaded. No offense meant to anyone we can't all move to Fla. man talk about overcrowded.

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 19, 2012, 05:13 AM
great post rbernie,

I keep all my mags loaded.

more than several for my SW1911 and Cimarron/Armscor 1911
100+ rounds

more than several for my 5906
100+ rounds

same for my other semi-autos, though not quite as many

S&W 629 is loaded and three speedloaders are too

GP-100 is loaded and three speedloaders as well

I rotate between my Mossberg 500 (also has 5 rounds on the stock) and Rem 870 for which shotgun is my 'go-to' each week,
and there is always a bandolier of 50 12-gauge rounds I can grab in a pinch, with 00, 000, hollow and solid slugs :)

336 is always loaded with empty chamber and a few more on the sling,

Mosin tends to stay loaded with an empty chamber and many more on the sling :)

Springer M1a and many mags at the top of my next purchase list

photos of a 1911 and 5906 with just a few mags :)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7062/6983590847_9fdc916eff_z.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2602/5760760796_2ba54ff7cb_z.jpg

and 629 with speedloaders
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6194/6053281571_7d1d5e9594_z.jpg

my favorite handgun ammo for anything beyond practice, is Hornady XTP +P heavier weight bullet, and in semi-autos the mags are staggered with Fiocchi +P FMJ every other shot.

Sobel
March 19, 2012, 05:30 AM
You guys are really prepared. I feel like a schmuck for only having 2 mags for my cz-82. I try to find solace in my belief that anything that can survive 24 9x18 rounds is clearly a terminator and I should switch to my mosin.

fatcat4620
March 19, 2012, 11:14 AM
I am also in the all of them camp. I thought that was the point of having so many.

browningguy
March 19, 2012, 02:15 PM
Currently, for what I consider my carry guns and HD guns I have:

3 x BHP's in .40 with 6 loaded mags
Springfiled XD 9 Tactical with 4 loaded mags
Springfield XDM 9mm with 2 loaded mags
Mossy 500 with 8 rounds in tube and 6 rounds in sidesaddle carrier
AR57 with 4 loaded mags (200 rounds)
2 x AR15's in .223 with 18 loaded mags (mix of 20 and 30 round)
2 x SU16's with 12 loaded mags (mix of 20 and 30 round)
Ruger mini14 with 6 loaded mags (20 round)

Note that 1 of the AR15's, the Springfield XD9 Tactical and the Mossy 500 are what I use for 3 gun shooting. Even though the SU's use the same mag's I shoot moly coated bullets in them so I have the magazines marked for moly and seperated from the magazines used in the AR's.

I forgot, 4 x 31 round mags for the sub2000 in 9mm.

allaroundhunter
March 19, 2012, 03:08 PM
AR-15: 2 magazines

M&P9: 3 magazines

Glock 19: 2 magazines

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