Home Defense (Living Alone)


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rugerman07
March 16, 2012, 06:18 PM
If you're single, living alone or married with no children and an intruder breaks into your home would you arm yourself and search your house for the intruder or arm yourself, take up a defensive position and let the intruder come to you?

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TxSteve713
March 16, 2012, 06:24 PM
Oh old football coach always said the best offense is a good defense.

Redlg155
March 16, 2012, 06:24 PM
Never leave a place where you have the tactical advantage.


#2, get a dog. If that isn't feasible, a cheap door stop alarm will serve as an early warning system. It helps to have other ears in the house.

macadore
March 16, 2012, 06:56 PM
If I didn't know where the intruder was, I would stay put. If I did, and could gain a tactical advantage by moving, I would attack. I know the layout of the house better than he does.

hermannr
March 16, 2012, 07:01 PM
Dog, doesn't matter the size...they are all eyes, ears and nose. Stay put, let the dog do the work. You will know exactly where the intruder is, and can work from there. Personally I love Dobie's, my wife love's Dachshunds/they both work in their own way.

CountryUgly
March 16, 2012, 07:20 PM
If I didn't know where the intruder was, I would stay put. If I did, and could gain a tactical advantage by moving, I would attack. I know the layout of the house better than he does.
What he said ^....and a dog is a great idea too mine is an excellent intruder/fire alarm !

Telekinesis
March 16, 2012, 07:29 PM
If you don't know exactly how many people are in your house and the location of each one of them, stay put in a good defensive position (end of a fatal funnel like a doorway or even better, a long hallway or stairway) and be ready to take action if they come towards you (also when you're there, don't be shining flashlights or lasers all over the place giving away your position). Think of it as an ambush. The best way to win a fight is if your opponent doesn't even know he's in a fight until its too late.

It is a really bad idea to try to clear a house by yourself when you know there's a bad guy somewhere in there.

Dogs are also a good idea (even though they're not always feasible depending on your living arrangements), they should give you a bit of warning while also giving the bad guy something to think about.

blarby
March 16, 2012, 07:35 PM
Generally, regardless of the physical parameters- if there is no extended reasonable duty to reach out and defend areas or persons of interest in an assault away from a defensible position....stay put, and load up.

All of the variations on home defense usually involve trying to secure "a" or "b" ahead of the intentions of intruder "x"

pbearperry
March 16, 2012, 07:42 PM
I would either stay where I was or maybe even leave if I had the chance.Nothing that I own is worth dying over.

Kleanbore
March 16, 2012, 07:47 PM
Covering old ground one more time. See this (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=532250).

rugerman07
March 16, 2012, 08:03 PM
Covering old ground one more time. See this. No way would I take up a defensive position in a closet...BAD IDEA! I might stay in the bedroom or move out into a hallway or another position I know the intruder hasn't infiltrated. I think a good defensive position is your best bet. Let him (they) come to you.

Driftertank
March 16, 2012, 08:03 PM
My place is fairly tiny, just more than a studio apartment, with the rooms roughly in-line. If there's someone in my place the best cover available to them will be back out the door they came in, i can cover the rest of the apartment from concealment at my bedroom door. Combine that fact with the fact that the only feasible exit, for me, IS said front door, and the fact that this is a castle-doctrine state, and the answer is, if someone is in my apartment uninvited, they will have about 2-5 seconds to vacate the premises, or make peace with any higher power they may believe in.

gym
March 16, 2012, 08:05 PM
Break a few bottles on the floor "toss from distance, and stay put. As soon as he moves lay down some lines of fire 1 1/2 ft off the ground. in the direction of the noise while mintaining cover. My interior is plasterboard, exterior walls are concrete. bb's or marbels also work well, or just sit still and wait for the police unless he moves or shows himself. As mentioned you don't know how many there are. you may think you have it under control only to find two more guys behind you. I would try to get in a corner at the end of the house like my bedroom, it's the last and furthest spot from the front door. But again it works both ways, the walls that seperate the bedroom from the family room are sheetrock,you probablly could punch through them with the butt of a strong stock. Luckilly I have solid wood furniture that would stop most handgun loads, and a dresser that runs along that wall. so staying low would solve most problems.Also tile floors in that entire area would make moving around a dead giveaway.I sure would hate to punch holes in my LCD tv's though, lol. My AR is also in the bedroom, they would be in trouble, Oh and almost forgot my Lab, she hears things a mile away, good for letting me know if there is a new threat behind or in front of the walls.

Deltaboy
March 16, 2012, 08:20 PM
Dead bolt locks kept locked, Dog any size will do, Good handgun and shotgun. The 20 gauge youth model is a great all around choice. It carrys a good load and won't beat you to death.

Redlg155
March 16, 2012, 08:26 PM
If you have some empty beer bottles next to your bed to throw then yep, you are definitely a single man.....

InkEd
March 16, 2012, 08:48 PM
Dig in and wait. Shoot anything unfriendly on the horizon.

2zulu1
March 16, 2012, 08:51 PM
Covering old ground one more time. See this (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=532250).
Excellent advice! If there is a home invasion/burglary in progress you will definitely know the difference between it and a bump in the night. While closets won't work for my home's floor plan, staying in the master bedroom with the bed mattress upright will.

I've been part of two/four man teams that have cleared homes, warehouses and even apartment complexes, kinda dumb to place oneself in harm's way when all that's needed is a patient mindset.

In the military, being part of a small ambush team was always better than being part of a large "looking" team; there is no "I" in team.

Living alone in an isolated rural area, my partner is a 95# West German German Shepherd and we've trained through thousands and thousands of ammunition rounds; but he also knows how to stay put. :)

joeq
March 16, 2012, 09:08 PM
I have a small apartment that would essentially force me into a fight. I'm prepared if it ever comes to that. I'm in a third floor apartment in a really nice complex. A break in on my apartment is extremely unlikely. In fact I haven't heard of one break in at my complex. Honestly an apartment fire would be more likely in my case. Like say, some layouts don't really give you the option of playing offense or defense in that situation.

jeepnik
March 16, 2012, 09:17 PM
Stay put. Shooting from ambush is generally a better tactic in a gun fight. Tis better if "they never hear the one that gets them".

Onward Allusion
March 16, 2012, 10:06 PM
rugerman07
Home Defense (Living Alone)
If your single, living alone or married with no children and an intruder breaks into your home would you arm yourself and search your house for the intruder or arm yourself, take up a defensive position and let the intruder come to you?

Ever clear a house or apartment? ;)

IF there is no one else to worry about, let the BG come to you. That's a big IF by the way. If you have someone else to worry about, make sure they're safe and get out with them if possible. If you can't get out, hunker down and wait with your weapon.

Grmlin
March 16, 2012, 10:43 PM
We have three dogs, one that likes no one but us. I gaurantee they would have to be a bad ass to get past him. We have a small house so depending on the intruder(s) disposition a confrontation at that point would most likely happen. The problem would be keeping my wife out of the way if a dog was hurt. 19 years yrs here have had dogs all the time with usualy at least one extremly protective male.

Whacked
March 16, 2012, 10:59 PM
I'm with joeq.... well sort of.

single, live alone, small, 1bdr apartment, 1st floor.
only way in is thru the front door.
bdr window is blocked with dresser and bicycle. dining room window is mostly blocked with a saltwater fishtank (no way someone could move that and would need to be a child to squeeze thru the opening, I can barely get the window open)
sliding glass door is mostly blocked with a bicycle on a trainer. during good fishing/cycling months there is also the frame of my personal pontoon boat. if they come in that way they will make a HELL of a lot of noise.
that just leaves the door.

so I'll just grab my shotty (or pistol depending on my mood when I turn in for the night)
and hunker down. the refugium in my saltwater tank is on reverse 12hr and it provides a lot of light in that half of the apartment. I really dont need a flashlight altho I intend to add one eventually.

Renters insurance is a must. All my goods can be replace, my life cannot.

hso
March 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
Stay put, listen, pretend to be patient, .
Make trouble come to you without knowing you're laying in wait for it prepared for it.

Then roll over and go back to sleep promising yourself not to eat Reubens after 10pm.

Hocka Louis
March 17, 2012, 12:50 AM
I never heard of anyone going INTO the closet, I'm not sure what good holding a matress up in front of you does, and although I'd prefer to "wait n see" I also realize that eventually you have to move, so, it may be a game of who blinks first.

A reuben after 10 PM -- yummy. And funny.

shiftyer1
March 17, 2012, 02:11 AM
They say find a good defenseive postion and call 911 is the smartest approach. A 911 call out here is at least a 30 minute wait if they don't get lost. I have a family but I would probably search. I have a good dog outside and he lets me know if someone turns up so I generally have the advantage of early warning. Even as a single guy alone in the house......I don't know how long I could sit and listen to someone digging thru my house?

Although I count on my dog, it may be foolish. I had an aquiantence who had 3 large dogs, his house was robbed 2 or 3 times and I know in one case his wife was home. They tyed her up and robbed the house, dogs never did a thing but bark. Don't put all your eggs in one basket!

tpaw
March 17, 2012, 03:18 AM
If I didn't know where the intruder was, I would stay put. If I did, and could gain a tactical advantage by moving, I would attack. I know the layout of the house better than he does.

My suggestion would be to stay put, have your weapon at the ready, and call 911 with your cell phone or land line.
Everyone makes the assumption that only one person broke into your home. Today's break-ins are being done by more than one person, sometimes as many as 3 or 4.
Have a plan, especially if you have children. Stay as far back from your bedroom door as possible, and if time permits, pull your mattress off the bed and use it for cover. It won't stop a bullet, but it's better than nothing. If the intruder enters your room, exercise your right to do whatever is necessary to stay alive. A gun in your hand is better than a cop on the phone. It is also better to be tried by 12 then carried by 6.
JMO

Twiki357
March 17, 2012, 04:01 AM
Fortunately (?) I'm alone so I don't have worry about other family. But, my house layout is such that there is no escape route other than breaking out a window and landing in rose bushes (Not a pleasant thought.) As far as an intruder is concerned, I have a lamp in the living room on a remote control from my bedroom. Any intruder will be in a well lit area or be a perfect silhouette.

As for "ANY" dog, I have to disagree. Unless an intruder smells like steak or pizza, my Rottie will just ignore them.

PBR Streetgang
March 17, 2012, 09:52 AM
I live in a average rancher in a wooded area, have two decent sized dogs that are protective of approaching strangers. I also have an alarm system. In a intruder situation,I would most likely confront the intruder/ intruders ,take control of the situation and then call 911.
I was lucky enough to be "educated " by Uncle Sam and my employer, and did jobs like this on a regular basis. I'm no macho guy but my training still kicks in when needed. I also taught tactics for my employer later in my career. Interior/exterior IR lighting and quality night vision gear give me a bit of a night advantage also.

The police response in my area is lacking (putting it mildly) and they are a bit trigger happy. In my opinion I fear a late police response and being mistakenly shot by the responding officers more than being injured by any intruders.
I'll offer my opinion to others, IF you don't have the training confine yourself to a defendable area, arm yourself and call 911

DagoRed
March 17, 2012, 12:05 PM
Everything you say on an internet board can and will be used against you in a court of law.

GBExpat
March 17, 2012, 01:07 PM
If your single, living alone or married with no children and an intruder breaks into your home would you arm yourself and search your house for the intruder or arm yourself, take up a defensive position and let the intruder come to you?

In a (Sub)Urban Hypothetical where there are cops nearby: Ideally, arm myself, call the cops, wait.

In my actual world:

I live alone in a large, multi-story house on the west side of my ancestral farm with an intruder alarm that I initially installed ~15 years ago. An intruder will trigger Blinking Lights and Sirens both inside & out.

Once I arm myself with cell phone, flashlight and firearm I shut down the alarm from the bedroom, check the annunciator panel for the zone, listen & look.

Evidence of an actual intruder will result in my calling the cops and setting up defensively where I am until they arrive.

If there is no indication of someone in or around the house at that point, I silently check the building.

I have experienced 2 false activations with this alarm system, both in the wee hours of the morning. The first time provided me with the basis of all future responses ... I was not prepared that first time, but now I feel that I am. :)

fase3
March 17, 2012, 01:51 PM
Now alone since wife passed away and live on a working farm in a very rural area. Have the following - high dollar security system-2 large dogs that sleep in the bedroom-CETME 308-2 colt 45ACP-ruger 45LC-Ruger 44mag all of which are by my side with one under a pillow. Will stay in BR and wait for company. Come on in for a "Warm Welcome" Will worry about house damage later.

Driftertank
March 17, 2012, 01:51 PM
Some of you small-apartment guys should count yourselves lucky. My tiny apartment is a basement place. Only window i have is by the front door. Alternate escape isn't inconvenient, or even dangerous, it's non-existent. My ONLY way out would be through an intruder, like it or not. Too bad for them... lol

And dogs are good, but unless they've been specifically trained to attack an intruder, they should really be considered a passive defense, an early warning system and possibly deterrent. Kinda like an alarm. But an alarm that is therapeutic, follows you wherever you go, and will love you forever if you scratch behind it's ears...

Sigh. I miss my dog now...

M2 Carbine
March 17, 2012, 11:42 PM
If your single, living alone or married with no children and an intruder breaks into your home would you arm yourself and search your house for the intruder or arm yourself, take up a defensive position and let the intruder come to you?
Too many variables at my place, such as where I was at the time of the break in, to say I'd definately do this or that..

One thing I'd like to do is get out of the house, AR15 in hand. I'd a whole lot rather get in a gunfight outside than inside.
Then I'd just wait for them to come out so I can get clear shots at them.

Besides it would keep from having to clean up the mess in the house.:)

Moose1995
March 18, 2012, 12:07 AM
Call the police. Don't talk to them unless you know the bad guy can't hear you. Don't go looking for him. In my state, if you go looking for him, find him, and shoot him, even in self defense, you are going to get into trouble. Check the legalities in your state. Now if you weren't alone, you have the right to defend other people in your home, and go looking. But by yourself, the cops, lawyers, and judge are going to ask "why didn't you just stay put and wait for the cavalry? How do you know the bad guy wouldn't have left before finding you?" I read stories every day about people defending themselves and then getting in trouble for it. Just read the latest american rifleman, page 17 "castle doctrine" legislation. "protecting the right to protect yourself."

GBExpat
March 18, 2012, 08:59 AM
A somewhat humorous "break-in" experience of mine just came to mind ... always makes me smile.

The scene: 1 bedroom apartment in VA Beach in the latter half of the '70s.

I was working a graveyard shift and had warned the apartment complex management to NOT allow anyone to masterkey into my place during the day because that is when I am sleeping.

Apparently, their Telephone Guy didn't get the word ...

In those days I would put my old K98 BringBack, inverted, under the doorknob when I went to bed.

This fellow was persistent and must have pushed & pushed & pushed before that rifle slid sideways to the floor.

He was just stepping over it and looking up from it with a puzzled look on his face when he saw, down the short hallway, a naked man roll into sight with a Colt Combat Commander pointed at his face ...

... he dropped his tools/parts case and I think that he may have been down the stairs and into the parking lot before it hit the floor. Hahahahaha

I grabbed some clothes and ran after him. Got him settled down, explained the situation, apologized and he came back to add the power module to the phoneline.

The look on that poor guy's face ... priceless. I am pretty sure that the K98 hitting the floor popped me out of a deep sleep and I remember throwing off the cover with my left hand as I reached up with my right, retrieving the pistol on the headboard over my head and rolling to my right out of bed ... which left me positioned with doorframe coverage for me and a clear shot at the front door area.

My apologies to the OP for wandering a bit in sharing that. ;)

Redlg155
March 18, 2012, 09:16 AM
Everything you say on an internet board can and will be used against you in a court of law.

Good. I will use a lawful amount of force required to stop the immediate action if you unlawfully enter my home or vehicle with the intent of harming members of my family, those under my protection or myself.

3KillerBs
March 18, 2012, 10:08 AM
IMO, a person should never get a dog just because he/she wants a security guard. A person should only get a dog because he/she likes dogs and wants to share his/her life with a dog.

Personally I detest dogs, but I still think they deserve better from their owners than to be intended as a tool rather than a companion.

Whacked
March 18, 2012, 10:51 AM
you must hate blind people with seeing eye dogs
or handicapped people with assistant dogs

those dogs are tools.
granted most become companions but first and foremost, they are tools.

Deanimator
March 18, 2012, 11:55 AM
My home is so small, any intruder's going to get to me practically by accident, and VERY quickly. Unless he just stands in the living room with his thumb up his butt, we're going to meet, and very soon.

The odds are that there won't even be time for a 911 call before I shoot him, and have no doubts, anybody forcibly entering my home is going to get shot.

mdauben
March 18, 2012, 04:14 PM
I'd fort up in a defensive position and wait for the cavalry (police) to arrive. If there are no other innocents who need to be protected (children, non-combatant adults) there is no reason to confront an intruder.

Given the hassle involved in defending even the most justified shooting, I would just as soon let them leave than win a free ride to in the back of a police car.

Redneck with a 40
March 18, 2012, 04:17 PM
I'd lock myself in the bedroom, have my pistol at the ready and call 911. If he breaks through the door, then its going to be a magazine dump, lol. If all he wants is some of my stuff, well that's what insurance is for. I certainly would not go looking for him, besides, a bed is pretty good cover.

oldbear
March 18, 2012, 07:14 PM
Have a plan in place, let the bad guy's come most of the way to you. Then do whatever is necessary to protect yourself and your family.

jeepnik
March 18, 2012, 09:37 PM
I'd lock myself in the bedroom, have my pistol at the ready and call 911. If he breaks through the door, then its going to be a magazine dump, lol. If all he wants is some of my stuff, well that's what insurance is for. I certainly would not go looking for him, besides, a bed is pretty good cover.
Slight adjustment. A bed is good "concealment" but lousy "cover". In fact, there are realively few things in most homes that are good cover, but anything they can't see thru is good concealment.

Oh, and when thinking of concealment, watch those mirrors. Especially ceiling mounted ones in the bedroom.;)

mnrivrat
March 18, 2012, 11:58 PM
After a journey of a thousand miles you face your enemy. What is the first thing you make sure of ?

The journey was his .

CZguy
March 19, 2012, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by jeepnic,

Oh, and when thinking of concealment, watch those mirrors. Especially ceiling mounted ones in the bedroom.

:eek: What.............then I read your location. ;)

JTHunter
March 19, 2012, 12:36 AM
Master bedroom door is in a metal frame and deadgolt isn't feasible. It is also at the end of the hallway and opens in such a way as to expose themselves to the full effect of a double-barrelled 12 ga. SxS (double trigger). This would be from the opposite corner of the room, behind the bed with an AK to back-up the shotty. Also a hard-wired phone instead of an electrically-dependent cordless, unless they cut the wires.

maskedman504
March 19, 2012, 12:39 AM
My first repoinse was going to be "get a big dog"; you still have to do your part though...I mean teach the dog...

I have a Boxer that will not bite anyone; get on the driveway or head up the front step, and she goes bezerk barking- but she won't bite. Lower liability that way- kinda of like a mobile fire alarm..

May not be the biggest dog, but 60 lbs of bark makes most people think twice... :p

Skribs
March 19, 2012, 12:49 PM
I'm in almost the same situation as Joeq. 3rd floor condo, and only one exit - out the front door. I have guns stashed in both directions away from the door, so I'm ready if someone comes in. On one side I have a pretty nice computer desk that can offer some protection; on the other I have my mattress.

allaroundhunter
March 19, 2012, 09:50 PM
If alone, bed down and set up an advantageous position. Call 911. <- In that order


Where I live, a high priority call like a home invasion will have a police response time of <5 minutes

Gtimothy
March 19, 2012, 10:37 PM
My plan...Gun out of holster, 911 on cell phone and panic button on alarm panel. That's if the alarm isn't what woke me up to begin with! :what:

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