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acfixerdude
March 17, 2012, 01:42 AM
Took a couple friends shooting today, stopped by wallyworld for some ammo and one of them bought TulAmmo. I'm the one with the gun and since I've never used TulAmmo before I figured why not see it in action.

Results using my Springfield XDm 9mm competition 5.25:

Horrible. Can barely load 12 into my 19rd mags, had problems feeding, had problems ejecting, etc. They all did go bang though and they did destroy that evil paper on cardboard at the range.

Conclusion: Won't be purchasing them again. Advise others not to purchase them unless you know your firearm will eat them up.

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diesel
March 17, 2012, 02:00 AM
hi
the only thing that i would and do put tula ammo through is my ak:D
i dont like shooting steel case ammo out of my pistols. i have a pt92 afs 9mm
and you can get red box federal champion ball ammo at wally world dirt cheap
my 9 loves it, its pretty accurate too

Moose1995
March 17, 2012, 02:05 AM
I put 2 boxes through my XD45 tactical a few weeks back. No failures of any kind. everything functioned normally. Loaded all 13 rounds into the clip using the speedloader with no issues whatsoever. Accuracy was almost as good as the winchester white box FMJs. I thought it was going to be iffy, but after that range session I went and bought 2 more boxes.

EDIT: BTW, If I was shooting a 9mm, I would just stick with the federal champion ammo at wal-mart. Can't beat 19.97 a box of 100!!! Unfortunately, the 45 ammo is a lot more money, so sometimes if I want to put a couple hundred rounds through it, 60 bucks is better then 80 bucks.

diesel
March 17, 2012, 03:21 AM
i use winchester white box for my 45,s 36bucks per 100:D:D:D:D
i use magtech personal defense 165gr plus p schp .45auto for home defense:D
23bucks for 20rds 1100fps in a .45auto thats cookin

FROGO207
March 17, 2012, 08:49 AM
I got a gift of a box of Wolf steel cased in 30 Carbine. So I went to the range with a friend and 250 rds of reloads and the box of Wolf. My 3 Carbines ran flawlessly on the reloads and then we tried the Wolf.:eek: It did not function well in any of them. Lots of FTF, FTE stovepipes, and the like. Only shot most of the 50 rounds and will not try it again.:banghead: Most of the wolf runs great in my 223. and 7.62X39--X64 firearms so what is up?? I now will always give the steel cased stuff a lot of scrutiny up front before spending a lot of cash on it. It is said that the Tula and Wolf are basically identical so it appears to be buyer beware especially with the steel cased stuff.:scrutiny:

jsimmons
March 17, 2012, 08:52 AM
I use Tula in my AR-15s. Even after 3000+ rounds, I've experienced absolutely no problems.

It's more than $100 cheaper than LC Brass ammo (in cases of 1000)...

The Lone Haranguer
March 17, 2012, 09:20 AM
Can barely load 12 into my 19rd mags ...
:confused:

At least you know what not to shoot next time. ;) Sometimes an individual gun just doesn't "like" certain ammunition.

Averageman
March 17, 2012, 11:13 AM
I shoot Tula in my Glock and my M4 and have never had an issue.
The 9mm happens to be my prefered practise ammo.

crracer_712
March 17, 2012, 11:44 AM
I've used some of the 40 and some 9 in my Rugers, no problems of any kind. Off that you could only 12 in a 19 round mag, don't see what this would be a problem.

Other that, how's someone supposed to know it will or won't work in the gun unless they buy some??? perplexing...

I don't shoot them in my pistols anymore, just shot a box of each to try them. Decided since I reload, the little extra cost of the Winchester and Federal were worth it for the brass.

I do on occasion blow through several in my AR though. Have had two or three under powered, not sending the bolt back far enough to catch another round.

loneviking
March 17, 2012, 01:03 PM
I use it in my Bodyguard .380 for failure drills. Half the primers have to be snapped 2 or more times and there's a number of FTFs.

SlowFuse
March 17, 2012, 01:16 PM
I use TulAmmo. Most of it being 7.62x39 through AKs and SKSs. Absolutely no problems there. I have ran the 9mm through Glocks and Sigs with no problems besides a few FTEs out of the Sig. Not really surprising on that simply bc they don't usually eject any steel case ammo well. The Sigs are terrible with Monarch steel. Overall I'm happy with it considering what it costs, just for something to go bang. Never have I had a problem concerning the magazine capacity with Tulammo. Could be a combination of larger than normal rim diameter of the round along with magazine with tight tolerance. When reloading I've noticed serbian brass has this problem, discovered it when it took a good bit of force to go into the shellholder.

mberoose
March 17, 2012, 01:22 PM
Certain guns don't like certain ammo? Shocker.

dogtown tom
March 17, 2012, 02:29 PM
Who wants a gun that can't function with certain brands of ammo?:scrutiny:
While some brands and loads are more accurate than the cheap stuff, I wouldn't want to own any firearm that fails to function with a wide range of ammunition brands. If the SHTF really does happen, you might find ammunition brands limited...so good luck with your gun that only works with premium ammo.

I shoot thousands of rounds of .380, 9x19, .40, .45 every year, 98% of it is the cheapest ammo I can find....meaning Monarch, Tula, Wolf and CCI Blazer.
I've run these through Browning Hi Powers, Glocks, Star, Kahr, Ruger, Sigs, Beretta and other quality handguns....if it won't run with the cheap stuff I blame the gun, not the ammo.

In my Colt AR I've run Wolf .223 exclusively...... with zero problems in 7,500 rounds.

gotboostvr
March 17, 2012, 08:16 PM
Tula is good to go in my pistols and my AR/AK rifles. Never had a problem in any of them. My match 1911 is about the only gun I don't run it in actually.

The Sarge
March 17, 2012, 08:33 PM
Guys when I make a post that some ammo specific doesn't work in some of my specific make/model of guns......come punch me in the ribcage really hard.

Thank you.

zxcvbob
March 17, 2012, 08:44 PM
I bought one box of Herter's brand .223 at Cabela's just to try it. It's accurate enough in my Mini-14, and didn't seem excessively dirty, but most rounds failed to eject hard enough to load the next round. Some of them even failed to clear the ejection port. It looks like it would be fine for a bolt action, it's just loaded a little too light. I also sometimes shoot Wolf .30 Carbine in my Ruger Blackhawk and it works fine for that application; I haven't tried it in a M1 carbine.

BTW, the .223 steel cases are reloadable. They should never need trimming, but the necks will probably split pretty quickly from work hardening, and not worth the effort to anneal them.

1KPerDay
March 17, 2012, 08:45 PM
Tula works great in my mini and AR...

igousigloo
March 17, 2012, 09:06 PM
Guys when I make a post that some ammo specific doesn't work in some of my specific make/model of guns......come punch me in the ribcage really hard.
?????

friscolatchi
March 17, 2012, 09:14 PM
Agree re: Wolf on the 30 carbine - plugs up the gas piston with many FTE FTF's as a result. OK in the Kimber 45 but I only use it in the snow or conditions when I can't easily locate brass.

zxcvbob
March 17, 2012, 09:27 PM
Tula works great in my mini and AR...


My mini is brand new. Do they loosen up a bit as they break in? That might be why all the FTE's.

Moose1995
March 17, 2012, 11:46 PM
Diesel, I have some of the magtech 165 grn +p also. They shoot good, but I have decided not to use them for home defense. Reason why? They give off a hell of a muzzle flash. I don't want to be blinded after firing my first shot, if its a low light situation. As far as I am concerned, I have several other hollow points for home defense that seem like they'd be the better option.

Dogtown Tom, every ammo I have used has functioned flawlessly in my XD. I don't think its his gun. My guess, and of course this is just a guess, is that the Tulammo he had may have been either exposed to moisture, or the cases may have been tumbled in brand new media. I have seen this before, where the steel cases have a rough enough texture that they will rub against eachother like sandpaper. And the finish on Tulammo cases certainly suggests that they may use either some sort of sandblast or other coarse media to clean the steel cases.

EDIT: This may also explain why he couldn't reach full capacity. If the cases weren't sliding against each other well, we all know the last few cases in a mag are hard to load. Now imagine they weren't smooth and trying to slide them in there.

crracer_712
March 18, 2012, 01:00 PM
Certain guns don't like certain ammo? Shocker.

Yeah, seems some think all ammo should work in all guns. And while that's probably the case, it's not. Find what works and run with it.

acfixerdude
March 18, 2012, 02:37 PM
Diesel, I have some of the magtech 165 grn +p also. They shoot good, but I have decided not to use them for home defense. Reason why? They give off a hell of a muzzle flash. I don't want to be blinded after firing my first shot, if its a low light situation. As far as I am concerned, I have several other hollow points for home defense that seem like they'd be the better option.

Dogtown Tom, every ammo I have used has functioned flawlessly in my XD. I don't think its his gun. My guess, and of course this is just a guess, is that the Tulammo he had may have been either exposed to moisture, or the cases may have been tumbled in brand new media. I have seen this before, where the steel cases have a rough enough texture that they will rub against eachother like sandpaper. And the finish on Tulammo cases certainly suggests that they may use either some sort of sandblast or other coarse media to clean the steel cases.

EDIT: This may also explain why he couldn't reach full capacity. If the cases weren't sliding against each other well, we all know the last few cases in a mag are hard to load. Now imagine they weren't smooth and trying to slide them in there.
It has to be the coating on the casings...

I'm just glad I didn't buy 5000 of the WPA rounds when I was thinking about it a couple weeks ago. Same factory, though I think they use a different coating.

I'll just stick with my reloads.

Moose1995
March 19, 2012, 01:19 AM
I personally love my own handloads (never loaded for handguns, only rifles). Because I always know what I am going to get with them.

stealth
March 19, 2012, 01:37 AM
Just a thought for an experiment, try running Brown bear. BB comes in both Lacquer and what you had -which was Polymer (TulAmmo dropped the lacquer, unfortunately) coated steel.

acfixerdude
March 19, 2012, 02:13 AM
Just a thought for an experiment, try running Brown bear. BB comes in both Lacquer and what you had -which was Polymer (TulAmmo dropped the lacquer, unfortunately) coated steel.
I'll try it if I can find it, but my reloads are so cheap the only ammo I buy is for SD.

iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns
March 19, 2012, 05:40 AM
I generally choose not to shoot with steel-case ammo in guns with extractors that I care about... regardless of 'the facts.'

For curiosity and amusement's sake, the last time I was at Wallyworld I asked the late 60s early 70s-year-old-lookin' gentleman behind the ammo counter what his opinion was on steel-cased ammo. He says "Aw we shot thousands of rounds of that stuff in 'Nam with no problems." I thanked him for his time in the service and just bought a few boxes of brass-cased FMJ. Then, I don't know why but after I finished my purchase, I asked him again, "You guys used steel-cased .45acp rounds in Vietnam??" and he replies "ahhh (sigh/grunt), I don't know what we used, but it was fine." Now I do not want to be disrespectful, but I told him to have a great day and walked away SO confused by that! Also laughed quietly to myself a bit... my father took a bullet in Vietnam, I have the utmost respect for our veterans. That being said I didn't know what to think of that conversation! LoL. I'm thinking he didn't know I was asking about steel-cased ammo at first, but it was an odd interaction. This isn't exactly the most relevant post ever, but I figure someone might get a chuckle out of it. -True story.

dogtown tom
March 19, 2012, 09:34 AM
iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns I asked him again, "You guys used steel-cased .45acp rounds in Vietnam??" and he replies "ahhh (sigh/grunt), I don't know what we used, but it was fine." Now I do not want to be disrespectful, but I told him to have a great day and walked away SO confused by that! Also laughed quietly to myself a bit... my father took a bullet in Vietnam, I have the utmost respect for our veterans. That being said I didn't know what to think of that conversation! LoL. I'm thinking he didn't know I was asking about steel-cased ammo at first, but it was an odd interaction. This isn't exactly the most relevant post ever, but I figure someone might get a chuckle out of it. -True story.

I got a chuckle out of your story because it is quite possible that that man fired STEEL CASED .45acp while in the U.S. military.....because the U.S. military used it.

Heck, Midway was selling Winchester STEEL CASED .45acp surplus last fall....still sealed in metal cans.

fatcat4620
March 19, 2012, 10:40 AM
How were you not able to load the mag?

imsobored
March 19, 2012, 10:47 AM
I got all 17 9mm in my mag, so far out of the two boxes ive shot, only two rounds wouldnt fit all the way and slide wouldnt close completely. Otherwise they worked fine for me

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Silent Bob
March 19, 2012, 01:15 PM
Tulammo is hardly any kind of premium ammo but don't see how it would only allow you to load 12 rounds in a 19 round mag???:confused:

acfixerdude
March 19, 2012, 02:09 PM
Tulammo is hardly any kind of premium ammo but don't see how it would only allow you to load 12 rounds in a 19 round mag???:confused:
Just couldn't force them in... I was even using a speed loader. They weren't sliding against each other and they weren't sliding against the walls of the mag.

bigfatdave
March 19, 2012, 08:28 PM
I generally choose not to shoot with steel-case ammo in guns with extractors that I care aboutgenerally extractors are pretty easy to swap out and are c cheap replacement part

justice06rr
March 19, 2012, 09:03 PM
Horrible. Can barely load 12 into my 19rd mags ..

I don't believe thats a problem of the Tula ammo. you should be able to load the mags to capacity like any other brand.

I do agree that Tula is a dirty ammo, but it is what it is: cheap. But i never had any issues with them on my XD40 or M&P pistols like you did.

Fiv3r
March 19, 2012, 10:41 PM
I've had hit and miss luck with tula. My ar and. 45 glock feed it just fine. I had some issues in my lcp, but after a little more break in they seem to be working better.

Not bad for the price.

bigfatdave
March 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
I've had hit and miss luck with tula. My ar and. 45 glock feed it just fine.same here
Steel:
Works fine in - Springer XD9sc & XD45c, Walther PPS & P.1, SKS (obviously), surplus 7.62x25 & 7.62x39 and 9x18 guns
Doesn't work so great in - Sig P238, Citadel compact 1911, KelTec SUB2000, and other tighter guns
Haven't tried in - KT pf9, new RIA CCOish 1911, .32acp anything, my Carbine or mini14 ... just don't feel the need and that Carbine's extractor is NOT an easy part to swap, by my understanding

highbrow
March 20, 2012, 02:28 AM
Have only tried 45 acp Tula so far. Runs fine in 2 XD 45s and 2 1911s after 400rds.

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