Ruger lcr vs.Vintage j-frame


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jimbo555
March 17, 2012, 04:59 PM
I used to own a very nice model 60 no dash and a no dash model 37.In a weak moment I let them both go to my son and daughter.Should I go for the new technology in the Ruger lcr or shop for another vintage Smith j-frame?

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firesky101
March 17, 2012, 07:19 PM
I went lcr, but hard to go wrong with those options

sidheshooter
March 17, 2012, 08:15 PM
Funny you should be asking. I rented an LCR at my local range and, while recognizing it as a true advance in revolver design (especially the sweet trigger), I really didn't enjoy it much. It's hard to describe, but it's like there is an S-shaped recoil shockwave that passes through the gun each time it goes off; maybe the frame flexion bothered me.

By contrast, I was just fondling a vintage 37 3" that is the lightweight twin to my 36-1 today. I'm trying to decide between that one, and another one at a different LGS with the shorter 1 7/8 barrel.

While I know that the 37s will also be unpleasant to shoot with serious loads, either one will at least be unpleasant in an old familiar way. Plus, the 2" at least, is definitely smaller than the LCR, and that's sort of the point of a flyweight .38. I'm thinking "Barami hip grip errand running gun" for my purposes.

On the other hand, lots of happy LCR owners to be found both here and elsewhere; far be it for me to begrudge them their choice.

skt239
March 17, 2012, 08:24 PM
I went lcr, but hard to go wrong with those options

+1. However, if you have not already, give the LCR's trigger a few pulls at the LGS if they have one. I personally like everything about the LCR but the trigger. If you're a J-frame guy, you might not like the trigger on the LCR; in my opinion they are two different animals.

The LCR also has some big grips. I've tried both the oversized ones and the smaller boot grip, both seemed like they might be a bit bulky and grabby in the pocket. I like my to keep everything as slim and smooth as possible when I pocket carry.

I don't know if you have considered the S&W Airweights, they are reasonable priced, well made and perfect for carry. They are also rated for +P as many of the vintage revolvers are not. +P capabilities might not be something you are concerned about (I'm not) but it's nice to have the option. The weight is not an issue either; at 15oz they are both easy to carry and shoot.

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Gordon
March 17, 2012, 08:36 PM
"3 " Model 37" Oh MY !

sidheshooter
March 17, 2012, 08:40 PM
^^^I know, right? (as the kids nowadays say) Plus, it is absolutely minty. They want 5 bills though...

I told 'em I'd sleep on it.

F-111 John
March 17, 2012, 09:52 PM
I'm a softie for Model 60 no dashes.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6638498191_95f2f3b231_b.jpg

dscampbell
March 17, 2012, 10:12 PM
I am sticking with my model 36. My EDC since 1972.

jimbo555
March 17, 2012, 11:20 PM
Thanks for the replys.I'm going to give the lcr a try.Next question is 38 or 357!;)

shootniron
March 17, 2012, 11:31 PM
.357...has a little more weight and the option of .357 if your feeling froggy.

Hondo 60
March 18, 2012, 12:07 AM
My vote is for vintage!
Gimme steel, wood & leather anytime.

http://www.jbabcock.net/guns/M38-c.jpg

ArchAngelCD
March 18, 2012, 12:20 AM
I used to own a very nice model 60 no dash and a no dash model 37.In a weak moment I let them both go to my son and daughter.Should I go for the new technology in the Ruger lcr or shop for another vintage Smith j-frame?
I went with the M442 and carry it daily. Before you decide you might want to take a look at the S&W Bodyguard 38 too. I like it a little better than the LCR.

jackpinesavages
March 18, 2012, 12:26 AM
J frame....

PabloJ
March 18, 2012, 01:01 AM
I used to own a very nice model 60 no dash and a no dash model 37.In a weak moment I let them both go to my son and daughter.Should I go for the new technology in the Ruger lcr or shop for another vintage Smith j-frame?
What is remarkable is that short-barreled Six-shot Colt revolver with alloy frame is same as S&W 37. It was not +P rated buy one would not want to shoot those in small light revolver and extra velocity isn't really needed. I have never been a Colt guy, but the old Colt is superior to both guns you have mentioned.

jimbo555
March 18, 2012, 09:30 AM
Pablo I do have a 1993 detective special but it doesnt work as a pocket gun.But your right an agent or cobra would!

Geezer Glide
March 18, 2012, 10:11 AM
I have fired a friend's LCR and I like the way it shoots and I really like the trigger. Someday, I will probably get one if I can find some small grips for pocket carry. However, nothing beats the looks of an older J frame.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h174/horry_dresser/36n.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h174/horry_dresser/fl.jpg

The Lone Haranguer
March 18, 2012, 10:14 AM
If you put better shaped grips on the J-Smith (factory grips on older ones leave you little to hold onto), you will have functionally very similar revolvers.

DocRx
March 18, 2012, 12:21 PM
I tried both the S&W Airweights and the Ruger LCR several times. Ended up with the Ruger KLCR 357/38. It has the option of 357mag., 38spl., or 38spl.+P., is lightweight (can carry pocket, IWB or OWB), concealabilty, Ruger Quality-reliable, very accurate even at longer distances, has a "sweet" trigger, and fairly priced. JMHO. Take care and be safe.

easyg
March 18, 2012, 01:03 PM
I once carried this...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/HPIM6334.jpg


but I now carry this...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/allenXdog/photobucket-4571-1331253590585.jpg

Ruger has a real winner with the LCR.

Guillermo
March 18, 2012, 01:16 PM
Vintage J Frame is a diminishing resource.

You can always buy a LCR

jimbo555
March 18, 2012, 03:10 PM
Easyg, what differences caused you to switch to the lcr?

easyg
March 18, 2012, 03:35 PM
The LCR is a better pocket carry handgun because of the concealed hammer, the more streamlined cylinder design, and the slightly lighter weight.

And when it comes to shooting them both, the trigger pull of the LCR blows away the S&W.

Wishoot
March 18, 2012, 03:54 PM
Had a very nice M37 flat latch that I sold a few years ago. It was a beautiful gun, no question about it. I did not enjoy shooting it however. I purchased an LCR in it's place.

While the LCR won't win any points for beauty, it's really quite enjoyable to shoot and the trigger is simply fantastic.

sidheshooter
March 18, 2012, 04:06 PM
Hey easyg,

Have you tried using speed loaders with your LCR, out of curiosity?

TIA.

easyg
March 18, 2012, 04:40 PM
Nope, but I don't carry speed loaders either way.

Nakanokalronin
March 18, 2012, 06:55 PM
I had a 638, 2 SP101s and a Taurus 85. I currently have a LCR in 38spl and find it to have the best factory trigger out of the group. Considering my snubs get carried on the ankle (extremely rare) or in a 5.11 shirt when bike riding (more common carry), the light weight really helps out a lot. With the Hogue tamer grip, I don't find +P rounds to be brutal at all.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg42/scaled.php?server=42&filename=rugerlcr.jpg&res=medium

Coyote3855
March 18, 2012, 07:57 PM
Colt does give you one more round. The Official Police is of course not a pocket carry, but the Detective Special works okay in the right pocket. Yeah, I know. The OP is a frankengun. Says OP on the barrel but the frame is an Officer's Model. It's silver plated. And the grips are modern.
but I paid $150.

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j467/Inusuit/007-2.jpg

jimniowa
March 18, 2012, 09:27 PM
I have owned some snub's Det Spec the last. I bought my wife a LCR in .38sp and she has AR and loves to shoot it. She now is doing 125g jhp factory p loads and doing fine. She shoots 148g wc target loads in her 4" 686, the transition to the LCR was amazing. She also shoots a .32 H&R mag in 2" with 95 g bullets and never a wimper. The LCR is truly a great subby. I have .44sp snub that I carry in the truck, however a LCR in .44 would be on my bucket list.
Jim

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