bolt/trigger springs for .31 Wells Fargo?


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oldcodger
March 20, 2012, 01:15 PM
In an attempt to tune one of mine, I broke the spring tab for the bolt. :cuss:

ASM Manufactured it.

Tried the safety pin fix, and no joy. The safety pin's coil was too wide to fit between the slip portion at the rear of the bolt, even after carefully stoning it down on both sides. --and smaller pins just don't pack enough "oomph" to engage the bolt reliably.

I wondered if the Wolff wire spring for the SAA would be good?

I called them, and they're about two weeks behind on shipping..hangdangit!

info, please?

Thanks,
Tom

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Fingers McGee
March 20, 2012, 01:19 PM
VTI Gunparts:

UB:070019 Uberti Trigger - Bolt Spring (1862, 1848, 1849) US$7.00

The SAA spring will not fit. The pocket model springs are smaller than the '51/'60/SAA springs

oldcodger
March 20, 2012, 01:20 PM
I'd guess then that's the same as Taylor's could supply me?

number seems the same...

Fingers McGee
March 20, 2012, 01:35 PM
Yep, Taylors carries the same parts.

Being an ASM pistol, the Uberti spring may require some fitting. It may be a little long or wider than the slot, and the screw hole may not be the same size. It's been a while since I fooled with an ASM Baby Dragoon/Pocket model

oldcodger
March 20, 2012, 02:14 PM
I'll give it a try...

Smokin'Joe
March 20, 2012, 03:53 PM
Codger, The safety pin fix works great on my ASM Wells Fargo. I bought a package of them at a crafts store. I believe they were called #1 basting pins. Make sure they are steel by checking with a magnet. Plated brass pins may not be strong enough.

oldcodger
March 20, 2012, 10:56 PM
just got your message also.. hope all's well, and thanks for the tip..

oc:)

robhof
March 21, 2012, 04:15 PM
While on the subject of ASM Wells Fargo, the hammer will drop from the 1/2 cock position when the trigger is pulled, the bolt seems to rise in that position also as the cylinder is still somewhat locked up, any advice or help would be sincerely appreciated.:banghead::banghead:

TheRodDoc
March 21, 2012, 11:41 PM
robhof,

The bolt should be starting to drop at about half cock. It will be just starting over the hammer cam. as the hammer is moved back further, the bolt moves more till just a very little before full cock where it finally drops all the way into the cyl. notch.

The trigger tip should sit in a notch in hammer at half cock. This notch stops the trigger from being pulled at this position. If yours pulls that notch might be wore or broke. Or something is in it, dirt, cap frag and etc, Or the tip of the trigger might be broke off making it to thick to fit into the hammer notch.
Or one last thing is the trigger spring is not in the right place on the trigger.

Some drawings to help:

No 1 - Is where the trigger tip is sitting in half cock notch. Bolt is just barley starting to move. (or drop)

No 2 - Is where the hammer has been pulled back some more but not quite to the full cock notch. Bolt has moved a little more and is ready to slip free from the hammer cam.

No 3 - Is with the hammer at full cock. Bolt has slipped of the hammer cam and dropped all the way into the cyl. notch.

I have this all drawn in movie action but don't know how to put it here.

oldcodger
March 22, 2012, 11:52 AM
RodDoc- NICE illustrations...

Do you have the opposite side comparably illustrated?

it would be a great help to me in understanding better the timing sequence.

Thanks MUCHO !

oc

Edit: robhof... the half-cock notch is a three-sided notch facing downward on the face of the hammer's "belly", and the full-cock "notch" is really just a 90-degree "step" or "shelf".
Dirt or debris in the half-cock notch will most definitely allow hammer fall from half-cock. A properly-profiled notch will not.

Sorry for the hijack - thought this might help.

robhof
March 22, 2012, 04:46 PM
Thanks for the pic's and advice, however, after disassembly and checking parts out of frame:banghead::banghead::mad:, and thorough, scrubbing and reassembly; now it won't fully cock and still catches on 1/2, but will drop hammer when trigger pulled?

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