A good 1911 smith who cuts and threads barrels.
cyclopsshooter
March 21, 2012, 06:17 PM
Can anyone recommend a good smith to cut a 5" 1911 barrel for a Commander and thread it? Fair price and good turn-around-
Thanks,
Cyclops
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1911Tuner
March 21, 2012, 07:58 PM
It'd be better to just order a Commander barrel if you want that length.
If you want the end of a 5-inch barrel threaded, the threads will have to be super-fine. Otherwise, you'll cut the barrel off before the threads are fully formed. Even with fine threads, you'll cut so far into the barrel walls that it'll probably separate with little use.
wally
March 21, 2012, 08:44 PM
0.578x28 is the "standard" thread for .45ACP suppressors, 5/8x24 is the largest piston Silencerco offers for their Ospry 45 suppressor.
1911Tuner
March 21, 2012, 11:27 PM
A 1:28 pitch? That's .031 inch thread depth.
Forsooth! That's half the thickness of the barrel wall if they cut a sharp V thread.
If they use American Standard Form, at 75% thread, it's still .025 inch deep.
cyclopsshooter
March 22, 2012, 12:03 AM
Ouch. So much for saving a buck or 200.. :rolleyes: So I gather that a properly threaded 1911 .45 barrel has threads greater than the OD of the barrel? Necessitating a non removable barrel bushing?
1911Tuner
March 22, 2012, 05:12 AM
I don't keep up with suppressed 1911s, and don't have a clue what's out there for that application. It would seem to me that a .030-.040 barrel wall with multiple stress risers would be a bit...fragile.
I do remember a bushing with a threaded extension that worked very well, but haven't seen one in many years. If they're not available any more, the best route would probably be a bushingless bull barrel.
Also...any can that becomes part of the reciprocating assembly that's also large enough to be effective in dampening the sound make it too massive to operate as a semi-auto, making it necessary to operate the slide manually for successive shots.
Greg528iT
March 22, 2012, 12:28 PM
I've wondered about this barrel
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/983794/swenson-semi-drop-in-barrel-1911-government-45-acp-1-in-16-twist-575-government-threaded-578-28-thread-steel-matte-black
Kind of took the price to be, to good to be true.
On the NFA page there are a few guys running suppressors on 45 ACP. The data I've found show a few manufactures reducing the noise to about 120 db ish. While still loud, it's still way better than unsuppressed 135/140 db. Of course they have to run a spring assembly in the suppressor to allow for proper cycling.
Cyclops, it might be worth $55 just to try it??????? maybe.. It'd stick WAY out on your commander though. and.. is the barrel going to be the correct OD, .75" short of the normal bushing mating surface?
cyclopsshooter
March 22, 2012, 12:37 PM
Says the Midway barrel has a "National Match" ramp.. Never heard of that before.
Pietro Beretta
March 22, 2012, 04:10 PM
These guys thread barrels, not sure of your location but these guys are great.
http://www.tornado-technologies.com/
dprice3844444
March 23, 2012, 10:59 AM
be cheaper to buy the midway barrel
wally
March 23, 2012, 10:38 PM
The best suppressors have a "Nielsen" device -- a piston that traps gases and kicks the barrel backward to give a "normal" net recoil impulse to the action. Muzzle flip is still greatly reduced because of the mass of the suppressor hanging off the front.
They work great -- no spring changes on my Glock 17L or FNP-45, although I've not got a threaded barrel for any of my 1911s yet.
Silencerco also has 16x1 metric pistons which is about 0.63" slightly bit bigger than the 5/8" I mentioned initially. I think this is what my FNP-45 uses.
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