No new Ruger orders?


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gbw
March 22, 2012, 11:16 AM
I've seen several 'shortage' threads lately, but I haven't personally noted anything out of the ordinary.

But now comes a reliable, interesting story that Ruger has stopped, or is about to stop, accepting new orders for guns for some period (model(s) not specified) because they cannot keep up with current demand.

I'd like to know which models are affected, my bet is on the inexpensive handgun lines.

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Ala Dan
March 22, 2012, 11:24 AM
I'd be willing to bet that their new SR1911 will lead the way~! :uhoh: :eek:

Swing
March 22, 2012, 11:36 AM
But now comes a reliable, interesting story

This story can be read where?

gbw
March 22, 2012, 11:41 AM
WSJ Marketwatch. It isn't hard to find.

Also on Ruger site, google Ruger Orders.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-to-watch-thursday-sturm-ruger-lubys-2012-03-22?link=MW_Nav_INV

Sheepdog1968
March 22, 2012, 12:46 PM
Pre-election jitters. Two local gunships have had problems getting a lot of different guns so I don't think it's unique to Ruger.

The Lone Haranguer
March 22, 2012, 12:53 PM
But now comes a reliable, interesting story that Ruger has stopped, or is about to stop, accepting new orders for guns for some period (model(s) not specified) because they cannot keep up with current demand.

Sometimes this happens with a popular product, in high demand, but not enough people to keep up. Visit Milt Sparks' (another popular product - in this case, holsters - in high demand) website and you will find they do the same thing from time to time.

gathert
March 22, 2012, 12:56 PM
Talked to a regional Ruger rep yesterday and they said their 9mm 1911 has sold faster than they can make them. They just added a new production line to try and keep up with demands for their guns and it cost them about 3.2 million for the machinery.

The Lone Haranguer
March 22, 2012, 01:07 PM
Maybe they will hire extra people to keep up with the demand? :cool:

Swing
March 22, 2012, 01:10 PM
Interesting, thanks. :)

TennJed
March 22, 2012, 01:32 PM
Talked to a regional Ruger rep yesterday and they said their 9mm 1911 has sold faster than they can make them. They just added a new production line to try and keep up with demands for their guns and it cost them about 3.2 million for the machinery.

I do not think ruger makes 9mm 1911. it is not listed on there website

ApacheCoTodd
March 22, 2012, 01:37 PM
I can completely understand halting orders after a certain threshold is reached. Supporting long drawn out orders on items not even built yet will ultimately require some degree of personnel shift in the minimum. Additionally, the company has to deal with suppliers of contract parts, raw materials, tooling, energy and the like. Given the shaky ground so much of the world's economy is on, a company would be foolish to run too long a waiting list (especially if purchase price is guaranteed) these days. Then there's the effect of fickle customers canceling unpaid orders or demanding the return of funds on paid orders.

Keep in mind that you really have few options as a manufacturer with extended order lists:
Someone stops what they're doing to address queries and efficiency suffers.
Someone new is hired to address queries and pricing suffers.
The customer/dealer feels ignored/lied to.
The manufacturer develops a reputation as being insufficiently communicative.


From my personal point of view. the "I've been waiting ***** for the gun I ordered" scenario is very different from the "I still haven't found the gun I want in stock anywhere" scenario.

Just look at how unreasonable some of the customer expectations posted in the last couple months here on THR are - now imagine the perception of a "promise" that comes along with an order being formally and professionally taken.

Oh, and save the Randall Knives model or others like it as the "custom" world is very, very different from standard manufacturing and knives along with other goods are not susceptible to the varying political whims as are firearms.

PapaG
March 22, 2012, 01:41 PM
One reason is due to the beginning of the year Ruger promotions...order 10 of "these" get one free. We just got our shipment of SR22s, eleven of them and after three days, have four left. Same with 10-22s. We're still hoping on the 1911s and SP 22s. Can't even get the old P95s right now.
If you think that is bad, try Kimber...we've got orders for sixty Solos and have only received five in the past year...and we're master dealers.

Tex4426
March 22, 2012, 01:48 PM
i would bet they will stop the 1911 due to they are way behind on orders as it is..its a very popular gun and everybody wants one..but on the other hand they may stop the on the other weapons to catch up on 1911s and be able to keep up with demand

Tex4426
March 22, 2012, 01:51 PM
they do not make the 1911 in 9mm ...yet..but it wont be long...but i heard from a rep that a sr 1911c is ready for production as soon as they catch up and after that a 1911 9mm is being planned..

rule303
March 22, 2012, 01:57 PM
Ruger ran/is running a bunch of dealer promos that turned out to be way more popular than expected. Within the first week after the start of the program, every distributor was sold out of almost every model, with backorders months out at this point.

DPris
March 22, 2012, 02:05 PM
One of my Ruger contacts said a month or so back that they're hiring a hundred new people.
That should help.
Denis

Bubbles
March 22, 2012, 02:07 PM
http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/1332407149qn3zm2bebpn

Ruger Temporarily Suspends Acceptance of New Orders...

Chief Executive Officer Michael O. Fifer made the following comments:

The Company's Retailer Programs that were offered from January 1, 2012 through February 29, 2012 were very successful and generated significant orders from retailers to independent wholesale distributors for Ruger firearms.

Year-to-date, the independent wholesale distributors placed orders with the Company for more than one million Ruger firearms.

Despite the Company's continuing successful efforts to increase production rates, the incoming order rate exceeds our capacity to rapidly fulfill these orders. Consequently, the Company has temporarily suspended the acceptance of new orders.

The Company expects to resume the normal acceptance of orders by the end of May 2012.

PT92
March 22, 2012, 02:08 PM
Pre-election jitters. Two local gunships have had problems getting a lot of different guns so I don't think it's unique to Ruger.
My local range and FFL as well say it's election panic-buying setting in. I for one agree with them as people are extremely leary of the 11/06/12 potential results:uhoh:.

-Cheers

Ryanxia
March 22, 2012, 02:28 PM
Glad that business is booming. I know the firearm industry is going strong in this economy, that helps I guess. :)

huntsman
March 22, 2012, 02:32 PM
I do not think ruger makes 9mm 1911. it is not listed on there website
Imagine how popular it would be if they did. :)

No new Ruger orders?

FWIW I just heard this announced on CNBC

HoosierQ
March 22, 2012, 02:36 PM
Not this pre-election crud again. Oh well got my Stag...and a lot of ammo...and just got 2 bricks of CCI Standard Velocity from my brand spanking new (Tuesday) 22" bbl Ruger 10/22 sporter.

So I will be weathering the election pretty well.

berettaprofessor
March 22, 2012, 02:45 PM
Bet the Ruger SR22 will follow soon after the 1911; I spent 2 months looking for one...gun shows, local shops, large regional stores (Cabelas). Didn't care what the cost was, as long as it was manufacturers price or lower. Only saw one, in another state, and wasn't ready to have one shipped to my FFL. Finally got lucky last weekend.

One million new orders is a lot of Rugers. No wonder they're behind.

gathert
March 22, 2012, 04:10 PM
I may have been wrong on the 9mm part, but he definitely said the 1911 production was backed up. He also said their NRA one dollar per gun program had been exceeded and was upped to 1.2 million matching for the final month to two months they have left of the year time span they laid out last year.

Mr. D
March 22, 2012, 04:14 PM
One of my Ruger contacts said a month or so back that they're hiring a hundred new people.

What do you know, the Big O actually managed to stimulate the economy after all! And, after spending all our tax dollars plus a bunch, here we find out all he needed to do was spend his campaign funds.

~D

watergun
March 22, 2012, 04:19 PM
I did my part on the Ruger ''Million Gun Sales'' by buying a Ruger pistol recently. Let's all do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StrutStopper
March 22, 2012, 04:25 PM
Wow. I've been trying to get an SR1911 for weeks without spending more than MSRP. They just can't be had locally, but I do believe I made it onto a list at a shop that has already placed an order. I'm hoping I get a phone call soon. I know Ruger doubled their production on the SR1911, or at least procurred the machinery to do so. Whether they have actually doubled production or not I don't know.

Beentown
March 22, 2012, 04:36 PM
RRA is back to 90 days out on most GI AR15's. :cuss:

Tex4426
March 22, 2012, 04:59 PM
Yep still waiting on my RRA upper....the last piece I need for my AR :banghead: :cuss:

PT92
March 22, 2012, 06:54 PM
What do you know, the Big O actually managed to stimulate the economy after all! And, after spending all our tax dollars plus a bunch, here we find out all he needed to do was spend his campaign funds.

~D
Amazing that the only jobs being created in the country are those that promote our Second Amendment rights. Don't get me wrong, I think it's Wonderful that people are finding work but it speaks volumes IMHO about this nation 's current and most precarious disposition when the only thing selling well is guns and gold. I'm just saying...:rolleyes:

-Cheers

Justin Holder
March 22, 2012, 07:35 PM
^When bibles start flying off the shelves, watch out!

Ryanxia
March 22, 2012, 07:44 PM
PT92 - I make note of that quite often too. Ruger is (rumor has it) hiring another 100 employees to keep up with demand. I think our country would be far worse off economically speaking than it is if not for the many manufacturers, importers, distributors, consumers, NICS check employees (unfortunately :) ) and so on.

Justin - A Bible, like a gun, is best purchased now than when most needed. :D

Birdmang
March 22, 2012, 07:56 PM
I didn't read this thread, I apologize if this was posted. Ruger is not making any more SR1911s this year.

PT92
March 22, 2012, 08:03 PM
...Justin - A Bible, like a gun, is best purchased now than when most needed. :D

Words of wisdom as the two indeed go hand in hand.

Remember what the liberals said last election, we 'people' tend to cling to our guns and bibles...;)

http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/tt163/markewall/declaration_bible_gun.jpg

-Cheers

Omaha-BeenGlockin
March 22, 2012, 08:45 PM
Meh---there are 2 Rugers on my radar but they are just back-ups to the Rugers I already have----I can wait till the dust settles and sanity returns.

7.62 Solution
March 22, 2012, 09:18 PM
Anyone notice what the stock prices did today at Ruger and S&W? Looks like we aren't the only ones buying guns.

mgmorden
March 22, 2012, 09:39 PM
Its an understandable move, though realistically it puts me purchasing an SR1911 probably ANOTHER year out, as I doubt manufacturing will catch up for a couple months and even after they start taking orders again I'm sure it'll be hard to get one.

Glade to see them doing well though. Always been a Ruger fan and an SR1911 and SR9 (hopefully a long-slide version if they come out with one) are very likely purchases, though I'm not sure exactly when.

PT92
March 22, 2012, 09:48 PM
Its an understandable move, though realistically it puts me purchasing an SR1911 probably ANOTHER year out, as I doubt manufacturing will catch up for a couple months and even after they start taking orders again I'm sure it'll be hard to get one.

Glade to see them doing well though. Always been a Ruger fan and an SR1911 and SR9 (hopefully a long-slide version if they come out with one) are very likely purchases, though I'm not sure exactly when.
I have not seen that kind of backlog pertaining to something I ordered with the exception of Kel-Tec--I love their products but they can't seem to hit any of their ETA's with the most recent example being the KSG Shotgun (though I hear the same situation applies to their .22wmr pistol).

-Cheers

Tomcat47
March 22, 2012, 09:59 PM
Seen article here as well: http://www.theoutdoorwire.com/story/1332407149qn3zm2bebpn

Overtime for the Ruger Employees! .... :)

2012 is going to be good year for Firearms manufacturers!

Election + Myan Doomsday = HUGE PROFITS! :neener:

StrutStopper
March 23, 2012, 02:47 PM
I didn't read this thread, I apologize if this was posted. Ruger is not making any more SR1911s this year.
And what is your source on this? It doesn't make much sense for Ruger to buy the equipment to double the output on a particular model because they are in such high demand and then decide not to build them...

mgmorden
March 23, 2012, 02:55 PM
And what is your source on this? It doesn't make much sense for Ruger to buy the equipment to double the output on a particular model because they are in such high demand and then decide not to build them...


Indeed. Just a guess, but it sounds like some people are hearing the news about stopping new orders and its getting twisted into stopping production as the info passes around.

The SR1911 is one of their best sellers right now. Saying that stopping production is highly unlikely would be the year's greatest understatement.

forestdavegump
March 23, 2012, 03:20 PM
When bibles start flying off the shelves, watch out! --Amen

forestdavegump
March 23, 2012, 03:23 PM
Words of wisdom as the two indeed go hand in hand.

Remember what the liberals said last election, we 'people' tend to cling to our guns and bibles...

-Cheers


Well they were warned!

Elbert P . Suggins
March 23, 2012, 04:35 PM
There are several reasons. The countless 'End of the World' movies and documentaries, the 'Doomsday Preppers', and the 'build your own bunker' ideas that are being shown. At least three shows about guns, dealers, and firing a weapon. A President that is so anti-gun it has got all of us that own one concerned, attempts to ban lead and other components and the threat of terrorism again within our national boundaries. No wonder 7.62X39 is drying up and gun back orders for guns go clear into 2014.

LeonCarr
March 23, 2012, 05:23 PM
All of this equals vote him out in November.

marb4
March 23, 2012, 06:09 PM
I've been considering buying another 10/22 (my 5th) for another project for the last couple of months. After reading Ruger's announcement I went today to my local Dick's Sporting Goods and plopped down $219 for one while they were still available and still priced relatively cheap. Don't really consider it a "panic buy" just prudent timing if I want to do another project 22 this year. This makes my 4th Ruger in the past 12 months (SR9c, SR22pistol, 2 - 10/22s)

PT92
March 23, 2012, 06:23 PM
I've been considering buying another 10/22 (my 5th)...

Wow--I have two of some of my guns but five of the same model? Not knocking it (just don't have enough dough)--I would like to have five of a lot of my guns just because...:). Just out of curiosity, why five 10/22's?

-Cheers

Rearden Steel
March 23, 2012, 11:44 PM
Looking for a Ruger as a starter 1911. On a 6 month waiting list at Sportman's Warehouse and 2nd on the list in another local shop with unknown expected shipment dates...also looking at LaRue 7.62s which I believe will be just as long a wait at least :-(. Stuck with a 1947 Mauser and a ka-bar To go after feral hogs for the time being :-)

forestdavegump
March 24, 2012, 03:13 PM
No wonder 7.62X39 is drying up and gun back orders for guns go clear into 2014.That is no good!
Warehouses are full of ammo? They are controlling the cost of lead and brass! Just like diamonds, they are controlling the flow of ammo!
Ammo at the local store finally went up. The Remington cheap 30-30 ammo is 16.99, WHAT!:what: Everything in this world is on back order? Three days worth of food on shelves, auto parts for your truck... special order, not surprised that ammo and guns are on back order out of stock, etc. They are slowly turning up the heat and boiling us frogs, for the last 50 plus years. The store sells what they think you should buy, or suppliers think you should buy, or manufactures think you should buy, NOT what you want to buy. We are being forced to buy, new, new, new or go with out. Everything is done to keep the hamster wheel of consumerism going? Do you really vote with your dollars? Does your opinion matter? Or is it like voting for president? When is the last time anyone asked what you thought or wanted and did then did that? It used to be you had a say. Now if the store or manufacturer sells something and it is the only other option, you buy it or go with out. Most people would shop at places other than WalMart if they could afford to? When your poor or broke or can't you make do with what you got or can get by with what you have at home then what? When there is no ammo and guns to buy, and your still out of work as your jobs went over seas, there will be a run on slingshots and bows and arrows? FOOD and TP!:D The worst thing is, since before 08, maybe even earlier(LOL) brains went on back order?:what::confused:

def4pos8
March 24, 2012, 08:07 PM
7.62 Solution, as a stockholder, I certainly DID notice what happened to the share price! If this keeps up, I may be able to consume something besides Puppy Chow when I'm 75.

stealth
March 24, 2012, 11:34 PM
I guess that 22/45 will have to wait ..
Is it the price of every item going up, up, up, or our dollar going down, down down.

Dane17
March 25, 2012, 09:33 AM
It's no wonder my sturm ruger stock is one of my best performers.

def4pos8
March 25, 2012, 01:51 PM
Especially if you bought it at $6.88. :D

The team that's been running things for the past five years or so actually seems to know what they're doing on most issues. I understand the need for new product but production capacity has to be brought into line with what has become "new gun of the month" marketing. :scrutiny: :(

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