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Tomcat47
March 23, 2012, 10:43 PM
Does your range charge you to bring in commercially boxed ammunition?

My local range charges a fee of $2 per box of commercially loaded ammo if you bring it with you to the range.

No Hand loads allowed...

And last but not least, my small peev also is the range ammo they sell is out of line pricing. I would do more business with them, because I really do not like shopping at wally world....but I can buy 2 boxes of 9mm and pay the $4 and be at same price of ONE box of there range ammo...which is American Eagle.

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fallout mike
March 23, 2012, 10:46 PM
I would cease going there immediately.

spikedzombies
March 23, 2012, 10:56 PM
If a range charged me to bring my own ammo I would walk out the door immediately

"Sent while drunk, on the toilet and nursing a rum and coke"

mes227
March 23, 2012, 10:59 PM
My main range is the Carson range - no fee for anything! I also frequent the indoor range over in Grass Valley (CA), no fee for bringing in your own ammo (great range, btw), and then Safe Shot in Reno (also indoor). They prohibit ammo brought in, you must buy their lead-free and over priced stuff (so I only go there a couple times a year). I've also been to the range near Danville (CA) a couple times as my cousin leaves nearby. Large facility (108 lines), no fee for bringing in ammo.

ApacheCoTodd
March 23, 2012, 11:00 PM
Before I say anything about how I amy feel about that pricing nonsense (oops, too late) I'd like to know what the basic charges for shooting are.

Tomcat47
March 23, 2012, 11:01 PM
Yeah, I do not go there much....but one of nicest ranges around...and closest to my home.

I always want to say something, but just let it go!

Oh, ...and you can not bring a partial box either, I had one box with fifteen out of it in a magazine of Beretta IN plastic hard case.....They set that box aside...emptied my magazine and said I could get it back as I left....:confused:

NOLAEMT
March 23, 2012, 11:09 PM
And you give them your money why?

I would write a letter to the owner, explaining why I am not going to his range anymore, and include receipts from the other range I went to for the previous month, so he could see that he was loosing money.

And I certinly would not let these strangers man handle my gear.

Voltia
March 23, 2012, 11:14 PM
Indeed. Also, remember that a range guy reaching for your stuff is a man reaching
for your gun. Literally. Inform them to stop immediately, loudly, and let them know just
how close they came to starting stuff.

then leave.

jcwit
March 23, 2012, 11:14 PM
I'd find another range to go to immediately.

I do let myself be pushed around in such a matter.

PedalBiker
March 23, 2012, 11:17 PM
My local range has one rule: No steel core ammo.

They even let me shoot some Federal Premium ammo with Barnes TTSX at 3400fps. I guess the backstop is pretty robust. The Caldwell A500 armor plate target says no all copper bullets and impact velocity below 3000 fps.

MrDig
March 23, 2012, 11:21 PM
The Range I frequent does not allow Steel core, or aluminum cased ammo. This is to recycle brass. They can get a magnet to pick up Steel Cases but don't want to begin to try and figure out how to sort the aluminum out of brass.
Their prices seem exorbitant to me but that is why I'm joining a club near where my Grandsons live. I can then take them shooting and have less expensive range fees.

texsden
March 23, 2012, 11:23 PM
guys, that range may have been the victim of a shister lawyer suit for so called unsuitable ammunition. there may have been an accident with an injury that caused this. but you are right don't go there any more.

NOLAEMT
March 23, 2012, 11:54 PM
I don't see how charging a surcharge for bringing in your own ammo, nor fondling other peoples equipment could help prevent a lawsuit from unsuitable ammunition.

What that range is doing is taking advantage of it customers.

Spaceman Spiff
March 24, 2012, 12:16 AM
that sounds like pure greed, not concern for safety...i'd only put up with it if the range fee was so low that it was still a good deal even with BYO boxed ammo...i'd just consider it a supplemental range fee...but *only* if it was still cheaper than going to the next range down the road...

Tomcat47
March 24, 2012, 12:35 AM
There range fee is about average... i believe $10 for 1/2 hour??? I dont remember it being a surprise or an issue! But American Eagle at over $20 a box :what:

I remembered that..and a fee to bring my own ammo...:scrutiny:

Last time I went....Wow! I just checked a range report (last time I went there-I posted here on THR).. and that was January 2011...

If I am not mistaken price fluctuates seasonally? (but not 100% pos. on that)

Twiki357
March 24, 2012, 01:57 AM
I would definitely find another place to shoot. I've heard of many ranges ripping off people with their requirement to buy their range ammo, but never been to one. I'm just fine with the ranges around me, even though the best one is the farthest.
Indoor, (15yrds, handgun only) 6 blocks away - $12 all day
Outdoor (100yd), 8 miles - $10 all day
Outdoor (State operated), 90 miles - $8 all day

Fishslayer
March 24, 2012, 02:47 AM
The range I go to only allows their ammo in their rentals (fair enough) and specifies no steel in ammo at all, and prohibits Wolf by name. Otherwise we can shoot anything up to 30/06 & x54R. The written rule is take your brass only. I pay $350/year for the wife & me, unlimited range time, free rentals.

Another range I go to only specifies "No armor piercing, no .50BMG." That's where I go to shoot milsurp x54R out of the MoNag. ;) It's $14/hr the first hour, $10/hr after that. Any brass is fair game.

Joe_m107
March 24, 2012, 05:21 AM
When I was living in upstate NY the closest range was a private range with a gated entrance. They charged $18 for the calendar year. They had a 50 yard pistol/rim fire range, a 200 yard rifle lane, and a 400 yard rifle lane. Only rule was ensure all rounds hit the backstop. I could shoot all the steel core ammo has fast has I wanted has long has I followed their one rule. I really liked that place.

Hunterdad
March 24, 2012, 05:28 AM
I'm a member at 2 ranges. I pay me yearly dues of $35 to one club and $75 to the other Club. I can bring any gun I want and shoot any ammo I want. No restrictions, no fees.

bigfatdave
March 24, 2012, 06:15 AM
$75 a year, no nonsense, no range schmafety officer, no inspection silliness, no ammo restrictions.

Join a club with a range and get treated like an adult, rental ranges are for chumps.

guyfromohio
March 24, 2012, 06:19 AM
I echo what others have stated..... move on. I wouldn't patronize them at all.

The Lone Haranguer
March 24, 2012, 06:43 AM
:rolleyes: I have never been to any range that did this, and I would not go back to one that did.

ChCx2744
March 24, 2012, 06:50 AM
The range I go to only charges $5 for a half hour and $3 for each additional half hour, but I bring all my own stuff so I don't pay for ammo, targets, eyes, ears or guns.

Art708
March 24, 2012, 07:47 AM
The range I use in SC charges 5 bucks for all day and I bring my reloads in a plastic baggie. The only time you have to buy their ammo is when you rent one of their guns. And it costs me a buck each for eyes, ears, and target. So 8 bucks unless I shoot up more than one target.

guntech59
March 24, 2012, 07:53 AM
When I was living in upstate NY the closest range was a private range with a gated entrance. They charged $18 for the calendar year. They had a 50 yard pistol/rim fire range, a 200 yard rifle lane, and a 400 yard rifle lane. Only rule was ensure all rounds hit the backstop. I could shoot all the steel core ammo has fast has I wanted has long has I followed their one rule. I really liked that place.
New Bremen?

Now we charge a whopping $25 per year for a family membership. Still a great place to shoot.

kwduffy02
March 24, 2012, 09:15 AM
Range about an hour from me...only outdoor range around here, will not let you bring in your own ammo if your not a member. Says its because of an issue from someone bringing in their own hot loads a few years ago which resulted in an accident.

beatledog7
March 24, 2012, 09:20 AM
A charge per box of ammo is not unlike an uncorking fee in a restaurant where you can bring your own bottle of wine. If the other charges are very reasonable, $2 per box might be ok. Just make sure you bring big boxes.

steelerdude99
March 24, 2012, 09:37 AM
I think it's a matter of the range owner wanting to maximize their profits. When ranges having high attendance (like they do now) they can do and charge whatever they want. If it the opposite of low attendance was the case, they would do what to do to get customers in the door.

Right now, I am lucky enough to have a reasonably priced range not too far from me here in VA. I can bring my own new or reloaded ammo with me and not get charged for it. Another range that I went to a couple of times in PA where my parents live was in it just for the dollars. 1 HR time slot for $14.00 HR. IF two people go, then two lanes are needed. All ammo must be purchased there new and at above market price. A few years back I got sticker shock after I took my brother, who is a beginner, shooting. Went there with two persons and had to pay for an extra lane, but we were shooting from one lane. We brought a 9mm and 38 special. After two boxes of 9mm and one box of 38 special ammo and about 40 minutes of shooting to use it all up, it was about $70.00. There was one last thing. When loading magazines at this range, it must be done in the lane. It cannot be done on the tables along the back wall. They alerted me to this “policy” in front of all the other shooters. No signs saying so. :fire: ... So, I went to may “unused” lane to load magazines while my brother continued to shoot. Never been back.

chuck

Ryanxia
March 24, 2012, 09:39 AM
That's ridiculous. I would definitely find another range or area to shoot.

bluetopper
March 24, 2012, 09:49 AM
The range I belong to charges me $50 a year and gives me the combination to the gate. No range officer ever, no other fees, just clean up after yourself. I always bring home more brass than I arrived there with.

Gtimothy
March 24, 2012, 10:36 AM
I used to belong to an indoor range but it was miserable to shoot there. They had a $12.00/YR membership fee and a $14.00 all day fee. Their ammo was over priced but they did allow you to bring your own. You were limited to non magnum loads, no steel core and NO LONG GUNS (including 22 rimfire and shotguns)!

I now belong to a range that has a $50.00/yr membership fee. You pay $5.00 to shoot all day and you can shoot what you bring. I've even seen guys developing loads on site. They are set up for 12yd pistol, out to 1000 yd for rifle, 3-Gun range, Cowboy action range, shotgun (trap/skeet/sporting clay), and a NFA range (Area 51) for the cool toys. I have to drive 20 miles to my range in the country but it is well worth the price to have the extra freedom!

jeepnik
March 24, 2012, 10:44 AM
Hmm... Their range, their rules. If shooters don't like it, they can stop using the facility. Then they either change or go out of business. Seems folks forget that the consumer is what keeps a business in business.

ApacheCoTodd
March 24, 2012, 10:44 AM
Good golly, a charge per 1/2 hour, hyper priced in house ammo and a surcharge for BYOB? Looks like an opportunity ripe for a competitor to get fired up in that portion of South Cakolakeee. I bet there's plenty of ill will on the part of other shooters to help a new competitor give it a go.

xfyrfiter
March 24, 2012, 06:40 PM
My range has $100/year for NRA member and spouse, card lock gate, 700 yard rifle, 100 yard rifle, skeet and trap, 8 pistol 50 yard ranges, and security cameras with 24/7 recording on all areas. I guess I am lucky, oh btw it's only 25 miles away.

Vern Humphrey
March 24, 2012, 06:44 PM
I own my own range -- but there is a range in the National Forest about 20 miles away, and it's no-charge to use it.

happygeek
March 25, 2012, 01:38 PM
The range I belong to charges me $50 a year and gives me the combination to the gate. No range officer ever, no other fees, just clean up after yourself. I always bring home more brass than I arrived there with.



My range has $100/year for NRA member and spouse, card lock gate, 700 yard rifle, 100 yard rifle, skeet and trap, 8 pistol 50 yard ranges, and security cameras with 24/7 recording on all areas. I guess I am lucky, oh btw it's only 25 miles away.


I'm also lucky to be a member at an outdoor range for $90 a year. They have flood lights over the firing line and stay open from 07:00 - 22:00 7 days a week. They run meets & competitions that involve closing the range while they're going on, but I think that's a small price to pay to keep the fee at $90 a year. I'm sure their property tax and insurance isn't cheap. They post a calendar on their website so you know when the range will be closed for a competition and can plan accordingly.

They prohibit tracers and firing more than 1 round a second (do wish they'd make an exception for 22LR). They also prohibit "silhouettes with facial features", plain black silhouettes are fine though.

There was an indoor range in Augusta GA that I patronized for the 3 months I spent there back in early 2010. They charged a $10 flat fee for a lane, didn't care much what ammo you brought, didn't care if you used your own targets, and had guns for rent (although you did have to use their ammo if you used their guns). I think it was $5 extra for two people to use the same lane, so for $15 two people could use a lane till the place closed for the night.

buck460XVR
March 25, 2012, 02:09 PM
Good golly, a charge per 1/2 hour, hyper priced in house ammo and a surcharge for BYOB? Looks like an opportunity ripe for a competitor to get fired up in that portion of South Cakolakeee. I bet there's plenty of ill will on the part of other shooters to help a new competitor give it a go.

^^^...this. I sure if the range Tomcat47 is referring to wasn't making a profit, they wouldn't still be in business. The whole principle behind capitalism here in America is profit. If they can gouge the public with range fees by the 1/2 hour and other utter nonsense and still be in business, there must be plenty of folks out there willin' to pay. The range where I shoot is a local sportsman's club. They get by for a $10 a year range membership because they use volunteers, have fund raisers and have a non-profit status. It is also pretty basic. I'm sure if it had nicer amenities and paid staff, it would be much more expensive. It may be easy for many of us to say "go somewhere else", but realistically there may not be "somewhere" else that is close or has the amenities that the majority of those that patronize it want. Threads like this show me just how good I have it.

Fu-man Shoe
March 25, 2012, 02:15 PM
That sounds like an awful place to shoot. Less a "range", than a place to convert money into noise and smoke for someone else's benefit.

There has to be a good outdoor club somewhere nearby. You'll like that a lot better.

Alternately, you could make friends with someone who has some property out somewhere near you. Lots of people have a back 40 who might enjoy going out and shooting with you. You can make an afternoon of it!

joeq
March 25, 2012, 02:42 PM
I would tell them exactly why they wouldn't be getting my business. I would walk out and never come back.

Aiko492
March 25, 2012, 02:53 PM
Does your range charge you to bring in commercially boxed ammunition?

My local range charges a fee of $2 per box of commercially loaded ammo if you bring it with you to the range.

No Hand loads allowed...

And last but not least, my small peev also is the range ammo they sell is out of line pricing. I would do more business with them, because I really do not like shopping at wally world....but I can buy 2 boxes of 9mm and pay the $4 and be at same price of ONE box of there range ammo...which is American Eagle.
The one in Greenville? I used to go to an indoor range that charged to bring your own ammo (not a lot of range choices close by), ended up joining a private gun club.

tryshoot
March 25, 2012, 02:54 PM
Had a range charge me a lead disposal fee. Once, Once.

Guy B. Meredith
March 25, 2012, 11:39 PM
Those prices and policies are WAY out of line. How the heck do they get any business? Even California's San Francisco Bay Area's many public ranges charge no more than that for ALL DAY!

I reload my own ammunition and there is no way I'd pay those high hourly prices to buy their @)U$% ammo.

Here in Oregon I just joined a club that charges $135 per year, but range time is unlimited at no additional fee. Then there is competitive pricing in the pro shop, free entry to gun shows, etc.

allaroundhunter
March 26, 2012, 12:20 AM
I pay $5 per hr or $10 for a day long pass, come and go as I please. I can bring my own ammo, or buy reasonably priced ammo there. Even if you rent their guns you can use your own ammo, and the fee to rent a handgun is $10



I'm honestly surprised that you ever go back there, Tomcat....I say to heck with 'em.....let them con their way to bankruptcy

The-Reaver
March 26, 2012, 12:55 AM
Fallout Mike ( # 2 Post )


Said it best.

RvR

Joe_m107
March 26, 2012, 01:14 AM
Yes, the range I went to was New Bremen. Great range.

coalman
March 26, 2012, 01:51 AM
Charging for ammo brought in is dumb. I would not given them any of my money. Increase range fees if needed, but that nickle and dime stuff gets annoying. Where I'm a member I can shoot what I bring and what I want for one annual fee.

sig220mw
March 26, 2012, 02:23 AM
I would not go there any more.

NoirFan
March 26, 2012, 06:00 AM
Does your range charge you to bring in commercially boxed ammunition?

My local range charges a fee of $2 per box of commercially loaded ammo if you bring it with you to the range.

No Hand loads allowed...

And last but not least, my small peev also is the range ammo they sell is out of line pricing. I would do more business with them, because I really do not like shopping at wally world....but I can buy 2 boxes of 9mm and pay the $4 and be at same price of ONE box of there range ammo...which is American Eagle.

When I was just starting out shooting, my local range would not let you bring in your own ammo to shoot in your own guns. They forced you to buy their own ammo at a healthy markup, which was, you guessed it, good ol' American brand. It seems to be be the crappy ammo brand of choice at cheapskate gun ranges because I've never seen it sold anywhere else.

Luckily I soon wised up and realized that this was not normal range practice as the manager at that place had told me.

spikedzombies
March 26, 2012, 06:03 AM
It's funny...

I pay $100 a year for a private covered range outdoors both rifle and pistol and skeet. If it's really nasty I pay $10 flat fee for indoor pistol range down the street for all day long.

"Sent while drunk, on the toilet and nursing a rum and coke"

Bubbles
March 26, 2012, 10:24 AM
I'd bring in a .50-cal ammo can as a "box" of ammo. :evil:

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