Czech revolvers?


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montveil
March 25, 2012, 11:50 AM
http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/revolvers/22-lr/czechpoint-241/
I'm looking for a inexpensive 22 lr DA revolver to plink, hunt and light target shooting. I would love to get a S&W but can't afford one.
Any comparisons with these revolvers and a similar Taurus?
thanks

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19-3Ben
March 25, 2012, 11:59 AM
I would love to get a S&W but can't afford one.

Have you considered the option of buying a used S&W?

RugRev
March 25, 2012, 01:10 PM
Wonder what the "alloy" is? Zamak? I'd look for used. If you can find an older medium frame Taurus, maybe or Charter Pathfinder might consider it.

Standing Wolf
March 25, 2012, 02:06 PM
Have you considered the option of buying a used S&W?

That'd be my recommendation, too. I've bought dozens of used Colt and Smith & Wesson revolvers over the years. If you're reasonably careful, you shouldn't have a problem.

BCRider
March 25, 2012, 02:40 PM
I can't help on any feedback for this Czech option. But I've got a couple of Harrington & Richarson revolvers. One is the Sportsman top break style and the other a 939 swing out cylinder. I've also got a S&W Model 17.

The H&R's are not anywhere near as nice to shoot as the S&W. But I was very pleasantly surprised at how nice they can be. They are definetly a nice enough plinking gun for the money.

mackg
March 25, 2012, 07:29 PM
Thanks for reminding me of these guns... got to lobby for some import in Canada :).

There seem to be a little more info here: http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/firearms/licensed-arms/revolvers/

ApacheCoTodd
March 25, 2012, 10:27 PM
I'd give one a go were it in front of me and I had the money but then I have an affinity for Czech firearms, beer, writing, politics.....

I'd really be interested in one of the .357's too.

I imagine a fella might be a bit disappointed in the finish if he didn't know what to expect from them.

PabloJ
March 25, 2012, 11:28 PM
Have you considered the option of buying a used S&W?
Have you seen prices on those? The large & heavy K-framed .22lrs bring north of $500 (sometimes a lot more if there are extra screws). People seem to hoard those things so they fly of used gun racks. As mentioned above ole' Taurus or Rossi would be good alternative.

armoredman
March 25, 2012, 11:32 PM
I've heard the steel frame Alpha Proj guns are quite nice. That's all I know, hearsay.

GunTech
March 26, 2012, 02:53 AM
I really want a ZKR-551, but no joy after a long time looking.

bragmardo
March 27, 2012, 01:32 AM
I really want a ZKR-551, but no joy after a long time looking.http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3777806

TonyT
March 27, 2012, 11:44 AM
No free lunches - you get what you pay for!

CraigC
March 27, 2012, 11:52 AM
I would love to get a S&W but can't afford one.
Then save your money until you can.


The large & heavy K-framed .22lrs...
You're the only one who thinks they're "large and heavy". You do understand that not all K-22's have a full lug barrel, right?

PabloJ
March 27, 2012, 01:05 PM
My model 17 did not have lug at all if I recall correctly and it seemed heaver then .38 of equal barrel length. They are very accurate excellent quality albeit large, heavy and expensive to buy revolvers.

CraigC
March 27, 2012, 01:19 PM
They will obviously be heavier than comparable .38's, the holes are smaller. That certainly does not make them "too" heavy. Only 37oz for the 4" model 18. They are target guns, not pocket pistols. I only paid $200 and $265 for mine back in the late `90's but it shouldn't be overly difficult to procure one in the $400 range. Which is a lot less than a new one.

PabloJ
March 27, 2012, 01:30 PM
They will obviously be heavier than comparable .38's, the holes are smaller. That certainly does not make them "too" heavy. Only 37oz for the 4" model 18. They are target guns, not pocket pistols. I only paid $200 and $265 for mine back in the late `90's but it shouldn't be overly difficult to procure one in the $400 range. Which is a lot less than a new one.
Four hundred would be very good buy mine cost >$500 year ago. I use Otis pull-through with proper attachments to clean barrels of revolvers from cylinder end. When buying one I would examine crown of barrel closely because I suspect most clean barrels from front and it would be easy to ruin target grade accuracy especially with aluminum rod used in such way.

TonyT
March 27, 2012, 02:37 PM
The only method I have used to clean 22 psitols is to pull a Hoppes#9 soaked patch attached to some 15 lb nylon monofilament fishing line through the barrel. I never use any brushes except a bronze brush for revolver cylinders.

danez71
March 27, 2012, 09:43 PM
You're the only one who thinks they're "large and heavy".

Make that two.



I'd like info on the Czech revolver too. Never heard of them.

If they're soft like RG then.....nope.

If they are at least as good a Taurus 94 then just maybe.


While the S&W are very good and I have a certain fondness for them. But, at the prices I see them for, and for the size they are, I'll never buy one.

Bohemus
March 28, 2012, 06:14 AM
Ive shot only the 9mmLuger version, but can translate opinions from Czech market/forums - generaly the steel models are regarded as reliable and well made - shooters ussually claim about ten thousend rounds fired and no problems so far..
The zinc alloy models are generally regarded as "postmans gun" - cheap, wont last too long, but they work (with some problems like extensive wear of moving parts after few thousands rds). Same purpose like CZ 100, if you know what I mean.

Shoot66
March 28, 2012, 08:03 AM
+1 ^ The only one getting my attention is ZKR 551.

Okiegunner
March 28, 2012, 08:55 PM
I believe that if you will do some research...You will find that the frame is ZAMACK alloy.

Once upon a time "Arminius Weirauch", out of Germany made a similar Zamack type .38 special. It was actually (I still own one) a pretty good little pistol, for not much money.

As for the ZAMACK alloy. Do not use hot loads. No +P. If you will use just standard, factory .38 special ammo, it should be fine.

These Czech revolvers (and I'll admit, I kinda like em too, but I like off-beat stuff) remind me of the EAA imported Windacators (which are successors and distant relatives to the "Arminius revolvers)

Gunner

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