.22 reloading?


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wannabeagunsmith
March 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
Is it possible to reload .22 rimfire ammunition? Everyone always tells me no, but if that is the case, than how on earth do the ammo manufacturers make them? is it at least possible to make your own?

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oneounceload
March 26, 2012, 06:48 PM
no it isn't and it is cheap enough not to be worth the cost or time for the equipment to try and do so - you would have to find a way to remove the dented section of the head and refill it with the correct amount of priming compound

paintballdude902
March 26, 2012, 07:48 PM
yes its possible and been done. but its not economical and the factory rounds are better quality

rcmodel
March 26, 2012, 07:53 PM
Everyone always tells me no, but if that is the case, than how on earth do the ammo manufacturers make them?No, you can't
You would shoot your eye out or blow your house off the foundation trying to do it a home.

The ammo manufactures work with thin putty like primer compound, which is spun into the rim while still wet. Then it is dried and the powder & bullet added.

Years ago, it was possible to buy primed empty .22RF cases and load them. (Not reload them, because they had never been loaded before).

But not anymore.

rc

Gimmered
March 26, 2012, 08:06 PM
It is possible to make bullet jackets out of spent .22lr cases though.

Vern Humphrey
March 26, 2012, 08:10 PM
Is it possible to reload .22 rimfire ammunition? Everyone always tells me no, but if that is the case, than how on earth do the ammo manufacturers make them? is it at least possible to make your own?
There are several problems you'd have to overcome.

First of all, priming. Rimfires are primed with a wet, bulk mixture. Dealing with a large quantity (say several ounces) of wet priming compound is hasardous to your health.

Second, spinning. The case, with the precisely-metered wet compound must be spun rapidly to distribute the priming mixture around the rim.

Third, drying. The wet priming mixture must be completely dry before the case is charged. That requires a heat source -- which when combined with wet priming mixture can also be hazardous to your health.

Jim K
March 26, 2012, 08:26 PM
Well, yes, it is, and I have done it. BUT let me say it is NOT practical, is very tedious, and can be dangerous, plus I am not even sure the material can be obtained any more.

The ingredient is "strike anywhere" match head tips. Cut them off. Swab on ointment for the finger burns! Grind up the tips and make a thick paste. Using a dental pick, push the paste into the parts of the rim that have not been crushed by the firing pin. Let dry and load with (I won't name it) powder. Put a .22 caliber lead ball in the neck and crimp. Insert in gun, making sure the part under the firing pin is not the part that was hit before. Fire. The effect will be less than optimal, but it will go bang, sort of.

Clean the gun because the material in the match head tips is corrosive as heck.

So, can it be done? Yes. Is it practical or feasible? Let me know after you have loaded your first 500 rounds.

Jim

Nail Shooter
March 26, 2012, 09:59 PM
rcmodel
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Quote:

....The ammo manufactures work with thin putty like primer compound, which is spun into the rim while still wet....



While rcmodel is largely correct, Remington has forgotten how to do this part. :D
They knew how to do it when I was a kid but, now, not so much. Their golden bullets were the standard by which all others used to be judged. Even into the 80's it was rare to have a dud, not it's rare NOT to have a dud every other magazine or so.

Nail

Gtimothy
March 26, 2012, 10:00 PM
No, you can't
You would shoot your eye out or blow your house off the foundation trying to do it a home.

The ammo manufactures work with thin putty like primer compound, which is spun into the rim while still wet. Then it is dried and the powder & bullet added.

Years ago, it was possible to buy primed empty .22RF cases and load them. (Not reload them, because they had never been loaded before).

But not anymore.

rc Listen to this man!!! Save your pennies and just buy factory fresh ammo and don't shoot your eye out! ;)

kozak6
March 27, 2012, 03:51 AM
Priming compound is basically touch sensitive high explosive. Touch sensitive high explosive that you would have to produce or concentrate yourself. Possibly in your kitchen.

Personally, I am rather satisfied with my current number of fingers and eyeballs. If I ever sought to reduce that number, there are cleaner and neater ways.

wannabeagunsmith
March 27, 2012, 01:01 PM
Ah, okay thanks guys.

Cesiumsponge
March 27, 2012, 02:38 PM
That is a shame. It would be worth it for folks that run match ammo. $15-20 per 50 rounds adds up fast!

deadin
March 27, 2012, 04:19 PM
Years ago I knew an old guy that reloaded his 56 Spencer rimfires. (Which were practically unavailable anywhere). Same sort of process as what JimK described plus he made up a tool for removing the fp dent.. He finally figured out that it was a lot safer and easier to machine a conversion breechblock (Now available commercially) and just make up some reloadable center fire brass.....

As for reloading your own .22's.... You can experience the same effect by shooting Remington bulk...:evil::p

Vern Humphrey
March 27, 2012, 04:27 PM
As for reloading your own .22's.... You can experience the same effect by shooting Remington bulk...
Amen!

Remington.:barf:

GONRA
March 27, 2012, 05:50 PM
GONRA heard that reloading .22 RF cases is (was) (?) done
(commercially, on a small scale) in Mexico decades ago.
Have no idea if this still goes on!!! Especially with Mexico's Gun Laws!!!
Only good way to do this (at home) is to SPIN THE CARTRIDGE CASE
(like the olde days) so wet primer mix gets into the rim.
Commercially Today, wet primer mix is SPUN into the stationary
cartridge case rim with Tungsten Carbide rotating mandel.
NOT QUITE as reliable.....

blarby
March 27, 2012, 09:32 PM
When in doubt...

WWRCMD ?


Go with that answer.

303tom
March 27, 2012, 10:03 PM
Here check it out..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvK9QlQtrKI

Ryanxia
March 28, 2012, 03:32 PM
You might get some more info in the reloading section. I know it's not economical to reload .22's but always thought it was a neat idea. (Since when do we care if it makes sense). :D

russ69
March 28, 2012, 04:28 PM
Get a Hornet, it's the closest you can get to a rimfire.

Ryanxia
March 28, 2012, 04:35 PM
If it would be feasible to reload a .22 then I'd go right to the .17HMR, probably be cheaper.

CSA 357
March 28, 2012, 04:48 PM
the trouble with 22lr ammo is its not loaded to the qc standerds like other ammo, go get some of the bulk 560 round boxs and shoot it some will be louder than others some not as loud, how can it shoot realy good like that? well it cant! you can have the finest 22lr gun made but if the ammo is crap you will never realy know just how well it will group!

Friendly, Don't Fire!
March 28, 2012, 05:09 PM
You can buy some really good, accurate and Quality .22 rimfire ammo if you buy something like Eley Brand, made in England I believe.

My target pistol and my old Mossberg semi-auto rifle both really like that ammo, however it costs me about $8.00 per box of 50, so I only use it when I am going to shoot something like a skunk in the middle of the night when neighboring houses have the windows open.

I have a skunk problem where I live. I refuse to let the skunks live around or under my barn. Shooting them is the only thing that works for me.

pseudonymity
March 28, 2012, 05:36 PM
That is a shame. It would be worth it for folks that run match ammo. $15-20 per 50 rounds adds up fast!

Even at that price it is a relative bargain. $30/100 for most popular rifle calibers is buying you pretty mediocre ammo even in popular calibers.

If I could buy FGMM for $30/100 I sure know I would shoot my .308 quite a bit more.

arcticap
March 28, 2012, 11:55 PM
Rather than loading brass .22 LR cases, a .22 muzzle loader involves hand loading each round directly into the barrel prior to firing.
Since the barrel itself serves to replace the cartridge case, the need for a brass cartridge case is eliminated.

For instance, here's a prototype of an electrically fired breech loading Ruger 77/22 which shows that it's even possible to eliminate the conventional primer/percussion cap.

http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/electric_ml/electricml.html

scythefwd
March 30, 2012, 07:01 AM
Other obsticals... the 22lr uses a healed bullet... it's relieved around the base so the case is flush with the rest of the bullet... where you gonna find those?

dbro822
March 30, 2012, 10:17 PM
Oh I wish it was, it would make my seven year old daughter so happy, she almost cried one day helping me pick up brass and came with hand fulls of HER brass, (22lr) and said "now you can make me some more bullets", and I had to tell her that I couldn't.

x_wrench
March 31, 2012, 10:32 AM
even IF it could be done economically, easily, and safely. at the number of 22lr rounds most of us use, you would spend more time loading, than anything else in your life!

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