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polaris man
March 27, 2012, 11:29 AM
looking for gun quieter than 243 savage as not to alarm the neighborhood when shooting at night or early morning . needs to reach out at least 200 yds for coyotes

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CoRoMo
March 27, 2012, 11:31 AM
.22 mag?

Ever considered a silencer? They are quite affordable and extremely effective.

Welcome to THR.

polaris man
March 27, 2012, 02:35 PM
would like a silencer cant find any

Carne Frio
March 27, 2012, 02:42 PM
Let Google Shopping do the search for you.:D

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=rifle+supressor&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=rifle+suppressor&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=shop&ei=tPtxT_yrJuHaiQLYvbjNDA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=6&ved=0CBsQ_AUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=decb37d02294f965&biw=1245&bih=686

CoRoMo
March 27, 2012, 05:06 PM
http://www.major-malfunction.com/maj_malf_5u_011.htm

Sam Cade
March 27, 2012, 05:09 PM
.22 mag?

Ever considered a silencer? They are quite affordable and extremely effective.



The OP is in Canada so that isn't an option.

Dr T
March 27, 2012, 05:15 PM
A 22 Hornet would be a good choice among readily available cartridges. My limit for hunting is about 150 yards for a 22 magnum.

tds

polaris man
March 27, 2012, 06:38 PM
I was thinking going with a 17 fireball . Has anyone tried that calibre yet .

KansasPaul
March 27, 2012, 09:30 PM
I would have a tendency to look into the possibility of reloading some sub-sonic 243 handloads. I'm thinking that someone in the reloading community may have already paved the way and can offer some experience.

Paul

rcmodel
March 27, 2012, 09:36 PM
.22 Hornet, .218 Bee, .22 WMR, longer barrels like 26" will help, etc.

No 200 yard coyote rifle is gonna be exactly quiet if you wish to recover the body in the same section of land.

rc

jim147
March 27, 2012, 10:09 PM
You could load some lighter jacketed or cast over some Redot, Unique or 2400 but 80 grains at 2000 fps may take some work on your part to be able to hit 200 yards every time.

jim

BCRider
March 27, 2012, 10:17 PM
Any of the small truly high velocity rounds is going to BARK! Since you're located up here in Canuckistan as mentioned a silencer isn't an option. But a lower velocity heavier bullet will bark with a softer voice. Something like a slightly less than full power .357Mag from a long 24 inch barrel lever gun will be just about as soft a sound as you're going to find. It's still a heckuva pop but it only demands hearing protection out to around 20 yards compared to far more for the serious stuff.

You'll need to do some fairly fancy sighting in at the range to deal with the rainbow like flight of a 158 or 180 gn bullet moving at around 1300 fps which will provide a reasonably low noise level.

Sounds like a challenge? It will be. But it's the only way you're going to get a lower sound signature. Or at least if not with a .357Mag something of the same speed and drop. As soon as you move to a muzzle velocity that gives a noticably faster trajectory you're up into the massively sharp CRACK! again.

Nuclear
March 27, 2012, 11:18 PM
Even without a silencer a 300 Blackout round (or a 200 grain 30 caliber downloaded to subsonic) should be about as quiet and usable as you are going to get. Still going to have quite the bullet drop at 200 yards (around 36" when sighted in at 100 yards!).

willypete
March 27, 2012, 11:55 PM
.45-70 or .30-30 loaded down. Blackpowder tends to have more of a "whumpf" than a "boom". I'm partial to a 440 grain FN at 1300 fps. Real mild from my Marlin 1895 or Ruger #1. You could load a .30-30 with some of the heavy (200+ grains) match bullets to sub-sonic speeds and have a two-shot lever action rifle.

Plus, if you reload, either of those rounds would be cheaper than new .243 ammo.

CountryUgly
March 28, 2012, 03:55 PM
.22-250

Certaindeaf
March 28, 2012, 04:21 PM
Sure you can get new guns but why not get new loads? Load an equivalent BC and velocity of the touted Hornet and it will be as quiet and with the same trajectory but with more smackdown.

oneounceload
March 28, 2012, 04:56 PM
Keep your loads subsonic and the noise level drops considerably

polaris man
March 28, 2012, 07:13 PM
the load im using now is 41 grains h414 with 80 grain barnes ttsx for 243. pretty fur freindly too nothing bigger than a toony for exit hole on coyotes

SharpsDressedMan
March 28, 2012, 07:21 PM
Are suppressors legal in Canada? Their regulation of weapons is a lot different than ours with regards to "restricted" weapons. For instance, they used to allow machineguns converted to semi-auto, whereas our BATF does not.

dprice3844444
March 28, 2012, 07:28 PM
if you had a 30 cal you could get a caliber reducer and shoot 32acp out of it which would quiet it down.

http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm

polaris man
March 28, 2012, 08:02 PM
silencers are not legal in canada.

DeadLiver
March 28, 2012, 08:37 PM
How about .17 hornet? The only gun I'm aware of for it is the Savage 25 lightweight http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/25LV/

3600 fps on a 20 gr bullet that matches a 55gr .223's trajectory even makes it possible to use .223 bdc reticules, and at least from Hornady's video it seems like a relatively quiet cartridge. Plus as a centerfire, it's reloadable.

Just my $0.02

http://www.hornady.com/store/Superformance-Varmint-NewAmmo/

Sam Cade
March 28, 2012, 10:19 PM
Are suppressors legal in Canada?
No.


Their regulation of weapons is a lot different than ours with regards to "restricted" weapons.

They are considered a "prohibited device"

From the Criminal Code of Canada 84.

"prohibited device" means
(a) any component or part of a weapon, or any accessory for use with a weapon, that is prescribed to be a prohibited device,
(b) a handgun barrel that is equal to or less than 105 mm in length, but does not include any such handgun barrel that is prescribed, where the handgun barrel is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,
(c) a device or contrivance designed or intended to muffle or stop the sound or report of a firearm,
(d) a cartridge magazine that is prescribed to be a prohibited device, or
(e) a replica firearm;

paintballdude902
March 28, 2012, 10:23 PM
i thin your best bet would be a long barrel and a subsonic round.

ms6852
March 30, 2012, 02:33 AM
Load your ammo to the very minimum standards that is safe, change your barrel to at least a 28 inch or 30 inch barrel. The longer barrel with the minimum powder safe loads should render your rifle a little quieter.

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